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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

A Week in the Life of Tiger Mom, Amy Chua

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

""Woke the girls up at 1:02 p.m. Gently reminded them that they had to start packing. And do their own laundry..""

If they are doing their own laundry, can't they wake themselves up? I don't wake my son up for work. Sometimes he has to open at 0600 am and it is his responsibility to get himself up.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

""Asked Lulu why she had to waste $3.49 on a Dunkin’ Donuts coffee when we have perfectly good coffee at home and when $3.49 would have fed my whole family for a month when I was growing up.""

Nag, nag, nag. lol

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

""Discovered that Sophia got a tattoo. She tried to hide it from me, but I spotted it. Instead of going ballistic like I have in the past, I was very reasonable. I told Sophia that I was glad she had at least chosen a physics symbol (a light cone) and that I would pay for its removal. I’ll have to hide this from my parents.""

Really? She is a grown woman. Your parents will just have to DEAL.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I think her girls slept in so late to avoid spending time with her. I am the first to get on my kids when they screw up, but this woman sounds like she is impossible to please.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Mellow Momma wrote:
I think her girls slept in so late to avoid spending time with her. I am the first to get on my kids when they screw up, but this woman sounds like she is impossible to please.

Hell, I was thinking if I was one of her daughters I wouldn't have even come home.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Mom is still signing the checks.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Mom is still signing the checks.

You don't get to verbally abuse your kids just because you pay for their stuff.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Mom is still signing the checks.
You don't get to verbally abuse your kids just because you pay for their stuff.

No chit. The tattoo thing is unbelievable. I have a small tattoo on my ankle. DN got one on her wrist. It's a cross. It's tasteful but she's also had problems finding jobs because of it. But she's an adult. Really? When your child becomes an adult they get to make their own choices and live with them.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Oh I am not defending her. Just saying why I think they still come home.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

She sounds like an exhausting control freak.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I love how she says she just wants their last day at home to be happy. So she wakes them up and starts berating them. Nice work ! That should make them happy!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well she didn't want to disappoint their usual routine! Sleeping till 1 pm though , lol.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Well she didn't want to disappoint their usual routine! Sleeping till 1 pm though , lol.

They were probably out late the night before...partying and disappointing her some more!

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Sorry. I should change my tone. I don't want to be labeled a bashed or a hater of this ethnic group.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

And I'm thinking, She's berating them for paying $3.49 for a cup of coffee when that would have fed her whole family when she was a child. NEWSFLASH, you're not in China anymore. Your daughters don't have to be responsible for paying for the poor conditions there. If they want a damn cup of coffee, let them have one. Sheesh.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

If it's the kids' money...then stfu. If she paid for it, then she needs to own up to the fact that she taught them to spend like this! Her fault not theirs!

And yeah...it isn't their fault she lived in China and stuff was cheap.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

When she started in on the coffee and how that was what fed her family for a week in China I just kept thinking "Eat your broccoli. There's starving kids in China you know."

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yeah like they are 5 !

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I bet she is a joy with her husband too.

FNW · Guru

I guess I'm the only one who thinks she's too lenient with her kids.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

They aren't kids.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Yeah, 22 and 19 are adults. If she hasn't raised them right by now it's a little late.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Actually if she wants them to get up at a certain time every morning that's on her. She needs to TELL them, "I expect you at the breakfast table promptly at eight, dressed, and ready to go for the day." But the passive aggressive slamming dishes around is stupid. Kids that age are going to laugh at her and continue to sleep. Maybe she needs to tell them what she expects of them? Besides nagging of course.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Her kids are in college. They are probably desperate to catch up on sleep. DD always came home and slept all day. I didn't care. She worked hard in school and she deserved to spend her break however she chose to. I just asked that she join us for dinner each night and not complain if someone woke her up past 9am.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

FNW wrote:
I guess I'm the only one who thinks she's too lenient with her kids.

Did you know thay when they were small, when they made her handmade birthday cards, she would hand them back and tell her kids to redo them if she didn't think the cards were "their best work". Sorry. That's a crappy mom. I am not saying you have to tell your kids their cards are something they are not...but you accept a gift in the spirit it was given. She should say thanks and give them a hug. Nope, she handed them back and said try again.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I guess I just don't get it. If I want my kids up for some reason I TELL them. It's a pretty simple concept in our house. If I don't care if you sleep in then have at it. If you get woken up for some reason that's life.

FNW · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
FNW wrote:
I guess I'm the only one who thinks she's too lenient with her kids.
Did you know thay when they were small, when they made her handmade birthday cards, she would hand them back and tell her kids to redo them if she didn't think the cards were "their best work". Sorry. That's a crappy mom. I am not saying you have to tell your kids their cards are something they are not...but you accept a gift in the spirit it was given. She should say thanks and give them a hug. Nope, she handed them back and said try again.

Well, that's mean. So now she overcompensates by letting them sleep in until 1 PM? Seems she can't seem to find a happy medium.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I do not think there was anything wrong with waking them up and telling them they needed to do their laundry and pack - she gave them plenty of opportunity to wake up on their own, and they didn't do it.

And at 19 and 22, if their mother is so horrible - they don't have to come home. But, I bet they like her money.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
Sorry. I should change my tone. I don't want to be labeled a bashed or a hater of this ethnic group.

This passive agressive crap is beneath you.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Sorry. I should change my tone. I don't want to be labeled a bashed or a hater of this ethnic group.
This passive agressive crap is beneath you.

Actually you don't have any idea how low I am capable of going. But I appreciate you being right there to scold me. What I said wasnt against any rules. And I resent your scolding tone.

And not every post that I post is about you. But it's cute that you think it is.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Sorry. I should change my tone. I don't want to be labeled a bashed or a hater of this ethnic group.
This passive agressive crap is beneath you.
Actually you don't have any idea how low I am capable of going. But I appreciate you being right there to scold me. What I said wasnt against any rules. And I resent your scolding tone.
And not every post that I post is about you. But it's cute that you think it is.

That was scolding? I didn't say it was against the rules - I said it was beneath you. Obviously I was wrong. And I'm not stupid - I know when a post is directed at me - to try to pretend that wasn't is just ridiculous.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Sorry. I should change my tone. I don't want to be labeled a bashed or a hater of this ethnic group.
This passive agressive crap is beneath you.
Actually you don't have any idea how low I am capable of going. But I appreciate you being right there to scold me. What I said wasnt against any rules. And I resent your scolding tone.
And not every post that I post is about you. But it's cute that you think it is.
That was scolding? I didn't say it was against the rules - I said it was beneath you. Obviously I was wrong. And I'm not stupid - I know when a post is directed at me - to try to pretend that wasn't is just ridiculous.

Telling a poster that something is beneath them is scolding. If what they said isn't against the rules, and if you aren't furthering the discussion...why even comment at all? You were scolding. And to pretend that you weren't "is just ridiculous".

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Sorry. I should change my tone. I don't want to be labeled a bashed or a hater of this ethnic group.
This passive agressive crap is beneath you.
Actually you don't have any idea how low I am capable of going. But I appreciate you being right there to scold me. What I said wasnt against any rules. And I resent your scolding tone.
And not every post that I post is about you. But it's cute that you think it is.
That was scolding? I didn't say it was against the rules - I said it was beneath you. Obviously I was wrong. And I'm not stupid - I know when a post is directed at me - to try to pretend that wasn't is just ridiculous.
Telling a poster that something is beneath them is scolding. If what they said isn't against the rules, and if you aren't furthering the discussion...why even comment at all? You were scolding. And to pretend that you weren't "is just ridiculous".

That could be said about your comment to begin with. Don't want to take it - don't dish it out.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Sorry. I should change my tone. I don't want to be labeled a bashed or a hater of this ethnic group.
This passive agressive crap is beneath you.
Actually you don't have any idea how low I am capable of going. But I appreciate you being right there to scold me. What I said wasnt against any rules. And I resent your scolding tone.
And not every post that I post is about you. But it's cute that you think it is.
That was scolding? I didn't say it was against the rules - I said it was beneath you. Obviously I was wrong. And I'm not stupid - I know when a post is directed at me - to try to pretend that wasn't is just ridiculous.
Telling a poster that something is beneath them is scolding. If what they said isn't against the rules, and if you aren't furthering the discussion...why even comment at all? You were scolding. And to pretend that you weren't "is just ridiculous".
That could be said about your comment to begin with. Don't want to take it - don't dish it out.

Considering the scoding we received on the Amish thread, my post wasn't passive aggressive at all. I was being pretty serious. I am currently unsure where the line is...it seems to change depending on who is talking and what they are talking about. I honestly didn't want my posts to cross that ever changing line.

See ee as how poster here repeatedly used misogynistic words and phrases to describe and demean a ground of people and went relatively unscathed until recently...I thought we had a bit more leeway than what was demonstrated in the other thread. So color me confused.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

The rules are pretty clear - if you can't understand them, I'll sum up. Hate speech is not allowed - as an example, blatent racism, anti-semitism, etc. That thread was bashing the Amish as a whole just as anti-semites bash Jews. (I know you'll deny it, but the posts speak for themselves). This thread is about one woman and her parenting style, not all Asians. The difference is pretty clear.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Oh the rules ARE crystal clear. I understand them 100%. It's the enforcement and interpretation of the rules that continues to confuse me and several others here. It seems that who you are matters. If you are a favorite you can say pretty much whatever you want. If you are not, your posts are much more regulated.

And I want to be clear in this...when one grown woman comments on another grown woman's tone unsolicited...that is scolding. And to pretend otherwise is ridiculous.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Holey moley...

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
Oh the rules ARE crystal clear. I understand them 100%. It's the enforcement and interpretation of the rules that continues to confuse me and several others here. It seems that who you are matters. If you are a favorite you can say pretty much whatever you want. If you are not, your posts are much more regulated.

And I want to be clear in this...when one grown woman comments on another grown woman's tone unsolicited...that is scolding. And to pretend otherwise is ridiculous.

Oh, on the contrary - Ohfour is definately one of my favorites, and I'm arguing with her more than anyone. And most comments one here go pretty unregulated.

However - if you want me to invoke rules, I'll remind you that questioning moderator actions is against them. By posting here - you agree to the moderation. Don't like it - don't post.

And when one grown woman makes such comments just to be controversial - that is childish.

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Ooooh catfight!
I am putting my money on LL.

Regarding the op: When I was home on break from college, I was expected to help milk, among other things.
That means up in time to start chores at 5:00AM.
And they wondered why I didn't answer their calls, or come home on weekends, and visited friends on short breaks.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Don't know who she is. Don't care who she is.

I honestly didn't see anything abusive being said.

I see a mom making a comment to a child she is obviously still supporting on the cost of her coffee.

I see a mom who probably has very traditional parents. Tattoos are a no no.

But I don't see abuse in the OP. She can do what ever she wants to do in her life, home, and family.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I never said that there was anything abusive about her parenting. But I think you have to know her and know her claim to fame to understand her Lily. She is the self proclaimed "Tiger Mom". She is from China and she has written book after book after book disparaging American parents and calling them all kinds of names like lazy and unmotivated. She talked about how her kids WOULD achieve a certain standard because she would MAKE them. Does she have some valid points? Sure. But it's not all that white and black or cut and dry. What about your aspergers son? Can you just MAKE him be normal? Of course not. And she was one of these hovering parents. Plus she put her kids in activities every day of the week. I'm all for putting kids in activities but she goes overboard. Kids also need a chance to just be kids. She doesn't believe in that. Structure at all cost. This article sounds to me like a mother who now has kids who are rebelling.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Don't know who she is. Don't care who she is.

I honestly didn't see anything abusive being said.

I see a mom making a comment to a child she is obviously still supporting on the cost of her coffee.

I see a mom who probably has very traditional parents. Tattoos are a no no.

But I don't see abuse in the OP. She can do what ever she wants to do in her life, home, and family.

Exactly what NJN said. Perhaps you should Google because the rest of us know who she is and the type of comments she has made over the years. hmm

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Don't know who she is. Don't care who she is.

I honestly didn't see anything abusive being said.

I see a mom making a comment to a child she is obviously still supporting on the cost of her coffee.

I see a mom who probably has very traditional parents. Tattoos are a no no.

But I don't see abuse in the OP. She can do what ever she wants to do in her life, home, and family.

Exactly what NJN said. Perhaps you should Google because the rest of us know who she is and the type of comments she has made over the years.

I didn't. I'm not going to follow a woman like the one NJN described - why would I waste my time?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

That's the thing about Tiger Moms. Yeah, they make their kid spend 2 hrs a day practicing piano. However, we see that Bill Gates and many of the creative minds of our time have not come from China. Why? Because their kids are spending hours and hours doing activities that they aren't particularly inclined for because they are made too. So, the 2 hours a day that an avg Chinese kid spends practicing the piano is 2 Hours a day he is NOT doing something else. They don't leave any room in their schedules for creative thinking and processes and exploration. So, the Tiger Mom approach does get results of sorts, but fails in other ways.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I don't "follow" her to be clear. I do know who she is because she does have a following. Not me. She is very popular among overworked, overstressed, overburdened American parents who are trying to keep up with the Jones at all costs. I think she has some very valid points. I know way too many parents who plop their kids in front of tv all day. However, I also don't agree with most of what she says.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

I've never heard of this until now....

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I am talking about "following" as I being aware of the news.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I really don't care what she does.

And I am not going to make any attempt to bring her world into mine.

You know that whole "not my monkey" thing? Yeah. This is so totally not mine.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

OK? Your point is what??

TOTALLY GEEKED!

A few busy days filled with lethargic daughters, fluffy yet ferocious dogs and some odd hate mail.

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