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RE: Dear Abby: Do I Have to Quit Smoking in my Own House?

voiceofreason · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
voiceofreason wrote:
When my kids were babies we gave them whiskey and water. Teething? Rub gums with whiskey. Colic? Whiskey. Cold? Whiskey. Constipated? Whiskey. Mommy and daddy need sleep? Ha ha...got ya! No, we didn't whiskey them up for that.

Yeah, we would have our kids whisked away in todays world.

In a heartbeat!

In my defense, I think we were the last generation to do that but we were simply going on the advice we were given by the older generation.

We didn't have mandatory car seats either. Of course you didn't need them on the horse and carriage. Lol

FNW · Guru

Our standard cold medicine was warm lemonade with Jack Daniels. I don't think I had cold medicine until I was in my 20's. We just didn't use it. Never used tylenol or motrin, because it wasn't out. Aspirin was taken occasionally.

I haven't given the boys JD yet, FWIW.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

voiceofreason wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
voiceofreason wrote:
When my kids were babies we gave them whiskey and water. Teething? Rub gums with whiskey. Colic? Whiskey. Cold? Whiskey. Constipated? Whiskey. Mommy and daddy need sleep? Ha ha...got ya! No, we didn't whiskey them up for that.

Yeah, we would have our kids whisked away in todays world.

In a heartbeat!
In my defense, I think we were the last generation to do that but we were simply going on the advice we were given by the older generation.
We didn't have mandatory car seats either. Of course you didn't need them on the horse and carriage. Lol

Of course not! biggrin And this is what I mean by changing with the times. I look back at that and just shrug. That's what they knew and were taught. Now we have more information to go by!

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

FNW wrote:
Our standard cold medicine was warm lemonade with Jack Daniels. I don't think I had cold medicine until I was in my 20's. We just didn't use it. Never used tylenol or motrin, because it wasn't out. Aspirin was taken occasionally.

I haven't given the boys JD yet, FWIW.

I remember when I was young Tylenol had JUST come out and there was this huge scare about kids under a certain age dying from taking aspirin. I remember my mom flushing all the aspirin.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Shoot...we didn't evenhave seatbelts when we were little. We sat up on the shelf inside the back window and prayed for my grandma to slam on the breaks so we could slide down from the window onto the back seat. It was awesome! But just because we did it and didn't die doesn't mean it was a great idea!

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

My BIL is/was a heavy smoker. Nephew had multiple respiratory issues as a small child. Sister died from lung cancer. I wouldn't live with a smoker if the smoked in the house. I wouldn't ask them not to but I wouldn't be a part of it.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Mellow Momma wrote:
just Czech wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:

Sorry, I couldn't get the link to copy on my iPad so I took a screen shot. Notice the very last line...taking Tylenol once per year puts you child at 70% greater risk for asthma.
I see this study was done in Spain, is that why we haven't heard of it?
DS's son's pediatrician has never said a word about not giving the baby Tylenol. You would think a pediatrician would know this stuff! Especially in Omaha!
It surprises me that your son's doc hasn't mentioned it. There were several studies done, not just this one and they all showed the same thing. My doc is the one that brought it to my attention years ago. Then again, your Grandbaby has not needed the medicine, so that's probably why it has not come up.

I sent DS a text, neither of them were aware of the studies. We are surprised their pediatrician has not said anything about it either. But, you're right, baby hasn't been sick yet.

msrock · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
just Czech wrote:
You know, when our kids were babies, I did give them infant Tylenol or motrin for fevers. None of the kids have asthma.
There may be more risk factors then just Tylenol, IMHO.
And again, no one I know has ever died in a car accident. Should I infer from that experience that wearing my seatbelt is useless ? Of course not. You take all the needed precautions to ensure you don't get hurt IF soemthing were to happen.

But again... you said it was the smoker that did it.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Mellow Momma wrote:
just Czech wrote:
You know, when our kids were babies, I did give them infant Tylenol or motrin for fevers. None of the kids have asthma.
There may be more risk factors then just Tylenol, IMHO.
And again, no one I know has ever died in a car accident. Should I infer from that experience that wearing my seatbelt is useless ? Of course not. You take all the needed precautions to ensure you don't get hurt IF soemthing were to happen.

I think everyone knows someone who has died in a car accident, so to me, that's not a good comparison. I know, personally, someone who died WITH a seatbelt on, it happens.

I just think there may be more factors to the possible Tylenol link then are being published.

There was a study done a few years ago, that had such adverse side effects, the study was stopped within a few short months. Wish I could remember what that study was about.

Something as important as children's health would have made national headlines. I don't remember ever seeing anything about this study on Tylenol.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
FNW wrote:
Our standard cold medicine was warm lemonade with Jack Daniels. I don't think I had cold medicine until I was in my 20's. We just didn't use it. Never used tylenol or motrin, because it wasn't out. Aspirin was taken occasionally.

I haven't given the boys JD yet, FWIW.
I remember when I was young Tylenol had JUST come out and there was this huge scare about kids under a certain age dying from taking aspirin. I remember my mom flushing all the aspirin.

Reyes Syndrome

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I took baby aspirin as a kid. And, I have given aspirin to my kids too. Everything has a POTENTIAL to cause a problem in the wrong person. That's just life. Yes, you can try to mitigate risks to a point but at some point, you have to play the odds when they are in your favor.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

As for the Tylenol/Asthma link, I haven't yet seen the American Academy of Pediatrics come out and put a black box warning on Tylenol nor stop recommending it. Not saying that they won't at some point but so far, that has not convinced them. But as parents, that is why I think it is important to educate yourself as well and make your own decisions.

-- Edited by Lady Gaga Snerd on Thursday 19th of February 2015 08:41:36 AM

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

just Czech wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
just Czech wrote:
You know, when our kids were babies, I did give them infant Tylenol or motrin for fevers. None of the kids have asthma.
There may be more risk factors then just Tylenol, IMHO.
And again, no one I know has ever died in a car accident. Should I infer from that experience that wearing my seatbelt is useless ? Of course not. You take all the needed precautions to ensure you don't get hurt IF soemthing were to happen.

I think everyone knows someone who has died in a car accident, so to me, that's not a good comparison. I know, personally, someone who died WITH a seatbelt on, it happens.
I just think there may be more factors to the possible Tylenol link then are being published.
There was a study done a few years ago, that had such adverse side effects, the study was stopped within a few short months. Wish I could remember what that study was about.
Something as important as children's health would have made national headlines. I don't remember ever seeing anything about this study on Tylenol.

When the study came out it was all over the news. It was on NPR, CNN, the nightly network news shows...it was everywhere at the time 6 years ago. If you didn't have small children or a child with asthma, you might not have noticed.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
As for the Tylenol/Asthma link, I haven't yet seen the American Academy of Pediatrics come out and put a black box warning on Tylenol nor stop recommending it. Not saying that they won't at some point but so far, that has not convinced them. But as parents, that is why I think it is important to educate yourself as well and make your own decisions.

-- Edited by Lady Gaga Snerd on Thursday 19th of February 2015 08:41:36 AM

That is because if you use it as suggested, in cases of fever, it is perfectly ok. It is when you give it to a child who doesn't need it thay complications ensue.

It has been found to decrease the production of the mucus lining of the lungs. That isn't a concern if your child has a fever and your need it to come down ASAP. Your doc will still tell you to give Tylenol. But giving it to them when they don't need it...that's the issue.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I use ibuprofen over Tylenol. It works much better, IMO.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
As for the Tylenol/Asthma link, I haven't yet seen the American Academy of Pediatrics come out and put a black box warning on Tylenol nor stop recommending it. Not saying that they won't at some point but so far, that has not convinced them. But as parents, that is why I think it is important to educate yourself as well and make your own decisions.

-- Edited by Lady Gaga Snerd on Thursday 19th of February 2015 08:41:36 AM

If you google Tylenol asthma link there is a link to the American Academy of Pediatrics webpage where they say the link is well researched and that children with any risk factors for asthma should not use acetaminophen.

-- Edited by Mellow Momma on Thursday 19th of February 2015 09:11:19 AM

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DemoniaD · Senior Member

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
As for the Tylenol/Asthma link, I haven't yet seen the American Academy of Pediatrics come out and put a black box warning on Tylenol nor stop recommending it. Not saying that they won't at some point but so far, that has not convinced them. But as parents, that is why I think it is important to educate yourself as well and make your own decisions.

-- Edited by Lady Gaga Snerd on Thursday 19th of February 2015 08:41:36 AM

I think until a study is accomplished proving the link, there will not be one. As of right now, there are many that suggest the link. Many of them that I read suggest using it can worsen asthma. A few suggest it causes asthma, but a proven cause-effect link hasn't happened. I think for most people, if the child doesn't have asthma, their doctor is less likely to recommending refraining use because there is more evidence supporting that it can worsen asthma.

Also noteworthy, I think, is that none of the studies I read specified what each use of Tylenol was for, just whether or not it was used. There was no differentiating between those that may be giving it unnecessarily (as sleep-aid, cure-all, just because) and those that were given it as intended. I did note that several of the studies seem to seek out candidates with breathing issues already to monitor. At any rate, I am sure there are studies out there that I haven't read yet, but this is my observations so far.

I agree that as parents we are better off by educating ourselves on an issue and then deciding the best course of action.