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http://www.slate.com/articles/life/dear_prudence/2013/09/dear_prudence_my_wife_no_longer_likes_sex_after_cancer_treatment_so_i_cheated.html

Dear Prudence,
I'm a 50-year-old professional man. I married my college sweetheart and we've been happily married for almost 30 years. We have two grown children who are doing well. About four years ago, my wife had breast cancer, a mastectomy, and chemotherapy. It was traumatic and after her treatment she told me that she was no longer interested in sex. I figured the experience, understandably, might make her shy away from intimacy for a while. I've said that I still love her more than anyone in the world, and that she's beautiful to me, which is true. From time to time, I've told her that I miss intimacy with her. She's thanked me for the compliment, but it hasn't gone any further than that. One of my hobbies is photography, and sometimes I've been asked to take pictures of rock bands. Three weeks ago I was at a club and a twentysomething man walked up to me. He said, "This band has a large gay following. Are you gay?" I said, “No. I'm married. I'm just here to take photos." He said, “Well, I think you're hot. If you're bi-curious, my apartment is nearby." Nothing like that had ever happened to me before. He was young, and handsome. I thought, "Why the hell not?" We went to his place and had (safe) sex. I'd never had sex with a man before. I found it to be interesting and enjoyable, but not something I'd been longing for all of my life. What I did find that I longed for was the passion. Three times that night, he said, "You are such a sexy man." No one had ever said that to me before and I keep hearing those words in my head. Since then, I've had a bunch of conflicted feelings. I feel sad about betraying my wife. I also keep scanning crowds to see if I can find that guy again. I don't think that it's the sex that I want, so much as the passion and appreciation. I would like to find some way to explain my feelings to my wife, but I can't tell her about the one-night stand. She's not homophobic, but the fact that I've strayed outside of marriage would be painful for her. Your thoughts?

—Confused

Dear Confused,
I think you need to stop looking for the young stranger, and instead focus on your wife. No, I don’t think you should tell her about your recent encounter. But that intoxicating and confusing episode should propel you to address the loneliness in your marriage. Your wife indeed went through a painful and frightening experience that seems to have left her with a sense of disconnection from her body. Treatment also could have pushed her into an abrupt and difficult menopause. All of this could mean she both feels unattractive and uninterested in sex. But that doesn’t mean it’s fair for her to unilaterally announce (while both of you were only in your 40s!) that your sex life has ended with no chance for discussion or reconsideration. Your wife must have contemplated that her closing the door on intimacy would have a profound effect on you. Surely, you never thought the result would be that you go off to have anonymous sex with a handsome young man. It doesn’t sound as if this is a readjustment of your sexual orientation—I’m betting you also would have gone off with an alluring woman—but instead about the desperate longing of a man who’s been in sexual purgatory.

So talk to your wife. You can tell her you understand that sex after cancer treatment can be a complicated issue. But for both of your sakes you want to reconnect physically and emotionally. Say that you are happy to go with her to a therapist if that would help. Advise that her gynecologist can address some of her physical issues, which are discussed here. Suggest she may benefit from talking about all of this with a support group of others who have been there. Let her know you’re happy to go slow, but that you want to celebrate each other’s bodies and you think there can be an even more profound connection because of your joy at still having each other. Then see how she responds and give her some time. If she again says she appreciates that you still find her attractive, but that the sexual chapter of your lives is forever closed, then she has changed the terms of your marriage. At that point you have to decide what your union means to you. Maybe you tell your wife you're going to consider having discreet affairs. Maybe you don't say anything but just go ahead and do it. Or maybe you decide you can't stay in a sexless marriage. Sex with strangers is fraught with peril, but you are entitled to acknowledge your needs and get them met.

—Prudie



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So sleeping with someone of the same sex was the answer? Makes perfect sense to me!

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Let's start with an STI test . . .

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I mean, like having a one night stand with a young woman wasn't enough? He had to pick a man on top of all that?

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So he doesn't want to admit to being bisexual? Fool.

A straight guy COULD NOT  do what he did.

 



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He just wants to get off. IYKWIM

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I miss husker...

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Where IS husker these days?

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Dunno.

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Huskers banned thru March 1.
Don't know why. I just saw it on his profile when I went looking for him.

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Adultery is adultery. You shouldn't get a pass for same sex encounters.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Adultery is adultery. You shouldn't get a pass for same sex encounters.


 I had some long internet conversations once with a lady whose husband would only have sex with her 4 or 5 times a year.

When she repeatedly asked him about the problem, he finally told her he was hooking up with his buddies 3 or 4 times a week.

"Switch Hitters" seem to find that other men are easier to please, and easier to get into bed, than women ... even a wife who is desperate for attention.

She asked me whether she should divorce him ...

I asked her the Ann Landers question: Are you better off with him, or without him?

 

She divorced him ...

Even though she was in a farming area, with only very small towns within 100 miles, and few available straight men. And she was BIG, which did not work to her advantage.

 



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I can't imagine that a straight man would even consider going home with a homosexual man for a one night stand. This guy is not admitting to himself that he is bisexual.

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Oh, ffs. The guy is lying to himself and looking for an excuse now. He should have addressed these issues a long time ago.
As for his wife, I can not imagine denying my DH what he needs and I have been through breast cancer. Yes, it does change how you feel about yourself and the hormonal change kicks your arse. But gosh, your DH still needs YOU emotionally and physically.
These two need counseling ASAP.

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Lexxy wrote:

I can't imagine that a straight man would even consider going home with a homosexual man for a one night stand. This guy is not admitting to himself that he is bisexual.


 Exactly! 

 

I can not imagine a man who identifies as heterosexual would just think "what the heck?!" and have sex with literally the first guy who flirted with him.  He needs to come to terms with his sexuality first and then decide how he wants to proceed with his marriage. 



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I can't imagine that a straight man would even consider going home with a homosexual man for a one night stand.
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precisely--perhaps, in whatever constitutes his mind, having sex with another man ( jesus )was not technically " cheating " on his spouse--agree though that a straight guy has NO zero interest in sex with another man

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I can't imagine that a straight man would even consider going home with a homosexual man for a one night stand.
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precisely--perhaps, in whatever constitutes his mind, having sex with another man ( jesus )was not technically " cheating " on his spouse--agree though that a straight guy has NO zero interest in sex with another man


 Exactly.  I mentally pictured the men I know in that situation & I can tell you emphatically that none of them would think "oh, what the heck!"  It would be more like sorry I don't swing that way.  And others would react more rudely.  None of them would preen if they were told you're such a sexy man by another man.



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Lexxy wrote:
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I can't imagine that a straight man would even consider going home with a homosexual man for a one night stand.
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precisely--perhaps, in whatever constitutes his mind, having sex with another man ( jesus )was not technically " cheating " on his spouse--agree though that a straight guy has NO zero interest in sex with another man


 Exactly.  I mentally pictured the men I know in that situation & I can tell you emphatically that none of them would think "oh, what the heck!"  It would be more like sorry I don't swing that way.  And others would react more rudely.  None of them would preen if they were told you're such a sexy man by another man.


 And this was literally the first guy who flirted with him...he ended up sleeping with him. There is something not right here. I could see if he was being hit on all the time, and kind of decided to see what it was all about one drunken night.  Nope, first guy who knocks on the door gets invited in?



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Mellow Momma wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
burns07 wrote:


I can't imagine that a straight man would even consider going home with a homosexual man for a one night stand.
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precisely--perhaps, in whatever constitutes his mind, having sex with another man ( jesus )was not technically " cheating " on his spouse--agree though that a straight guy has NO zero interest in sex with another man


 Exactly.  I mentally pictured the men I know in that situation & I can tell you emphatically that none of them would think "oh, what the heck!"  It would be more like sorry I don't swing that way.  And others would react more rudely.  None of them would preen if they were told you're such a sexy man by another man.


 And this was literally the first guy who flirted with him...he ended up sleeping with him. There is something not right here. I could see if he was being hit on all the time, and kind of decided to see what it was all about one drunken night.  Nope, first guy who knocks on the door gets invited in?


 Literally!



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At the very least the LW is bisexual. He may not have known it before, but as others have said, A straight man wouldn't have gone with him. Cheating is cheating and he was definitely in the wrong there, but she was also in the wrong to cut him off.

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I feel bad for the whole situation.

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I hate cheaters. I don't care how you reconcile it I hate cheaters. Either fix his marriage or get out and then fool around. The other spouse deserves more respect.

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