And we were quite fine paying for all of our tab. We had no issues whatsoever. But my SIL and BIL are known to buy extra meals and take them home. They will ask for four extra meals to go. When we plan for twenty people that means twenty people. Not twenty four meals. My SIL is just a mooch. She was in my wedding party. I couldn't exactly NOT invite her to the wedding rehearsal dinner. I just don't see what's so rude about offering a pre printed menu with five choices on it. We're not telling people that have to eat one thing. They have a choice.
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Thanks mom. I really enjoyed the meatloaf and pureed green beans. So what. I will live to eat another day. Id it made My Mom happy then it would have made me happy.
Why can't Mom want her kids to be happy?
My boys don't like mushrooms on their pizza. DH and I do. I would never force them to eat something they didn't like.
But you could have had your dinner party somewhere that didn't include dishes outside your budget.
Explain to me why we should change the venue from where WE want just because we have one moronic clod in the family?
Because you can't seem to TELL her "I'm only paying for this food, not this food". Or better yet, have the waiter tell her that's not included and if she orders it, they will give her a separate bill. I do not understand why people can't TELL people the way things are. You are the one who ended up paying for an expensive meal and resenting it.
You are wrong on several accounts. First we HAVE told. We have told her point blank that if she is going to join us for such and such a meal she needs to pay her own way. We DO tell her. Her next MO is to say she didn't bring any cash. We refused to pay her bill and my IL's got stuck with the tab. I felt bad for them. Why should they be stuck with the tab? But we weren't paying it either. So they paid for it. We've NEVER been stuck paying for a meal we didn't want to pay for. EVER. But we also know my SIL and BIL. So whenever we have thrown a party and we know she will come, invite or not, we do a pre planned menu. No one has ever complained.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
And we were quite fine paying for all of our tab. We had no issues whatsoever. But my SIL and BIL are known to buy extra meals and take them home. They will ask for four extra meals to go. When we plan for twenty people that means twenty people. Not twenty four meals. My SIL is just a mooch. She was in my wedding party. I couldn't exactly NOT invite her to the wedding rehearsal dinner. I just don't see what's so rude about offering a pre printed menu with five choices on it. We're not telling people that have to eat one thing. They have a choice.
Why on earth would you pay for this? Why would you let the restaurant bill you for this? It's not rude to offer a pre-printed menu, but if that's what you are going to do - you are going to have to stand behind it and not let people take advantage of you. You LET them do what they did. If you don't want to stand up to them, then choose a venue where they won't be able to take advantage. Or better yet, don't invite them.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
But you could have had your dinner party somewhere that didn't include dishes outside your budget.
Explain to me why we should change the venue from where WE want just because we have one moronic clod in the family?
Because you can't seem to TELL her "I'm only paying for this food, not this food". Or better yet, have the waiter tell her that's not included and if she orders it, they will give her a separate bill. I do not understand why people can't TELL people the way things are. You are the one who ended up paying for an expensive meal and resenting it.
You are wrong on several accounts. First we HAVE told. We have told her point blank that if she is going to join us for such and such a meal she needs to pay her own way. We DO tell her. Her next MO is to say she didn't bring any cash. We refused to pay her bill and my IL's got stuck with the tab. I felt bad for them. Why should they be stuck with the tab? But we weren't paying it either. So they paid for it. We've NEVER been stuck paying for a meal we didn't want to pay for. EVER. But we also know my SIL and BIL. So whenever we have thrown a party and we know she will come, invite or not, we do a pre planned menu. No one has ever complained.
Then that is on your in-laws.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
And we were quite fine paying for all of our tab. We had no issues whatsoever. But my SIL and BIL are known to buy extra meals and take them home. They will ask for four extra meals to go. When we plan for twenty people that means twenty people. Not twenty four meals. My SIL is just a mooch. She was in my wedding party. I couldn't exactly NOT invite her to the wedding rehearsal dinner. I just don't see what's so rude about offering a pre printed menu with five choices on it. We're not telling people that have to eat one thing. They have a choice.
Why on earth would you pay for this? Why would you let the restaurant bill you for this? It's not rude to offer a pre-printed menu, but if that's what you are going to do - you are going to have to stand behind it and not let people take advantage of you. You LET them do what they did. If you don't want to stand up to them, then choose a venue where they won't be able to take advantage. Or better yet, don't invite them.
Again you are assuming we paid for them. My IL's paid for them. We don't pay for things we don't want to pay for. I'm just trying to tell you that sometimes you HAVE to interact with some people and you do the best you can with what you have.
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Thanks mom.if she rhoughtI reallyintentions why royed the meatloaf and pureed green beans. So what. I will live to eat another day. Id it made My Mom happy then it would have made me happy.
Why can't Mom want her kids to be happy?
My boys don't like mushrooms on their pizza. DH and I do. I would never force them to eat something they didn't like.
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Because i know my mom did thngs out of love. So if she truly had good intentions why try to paint it as some terrible thing.
And we were quite fine paying for all of our tab. We had no issues whatsoever. But my SIL and BIL are known to buy extra meals and take them home. They will ask for four extra meals to go. When we plan for twenty people that means twenty people. Not twenty four meals. My SIL is just a mooch. She was in my wedding party. I couldn't exactly NOT invite her to the wedding rehearsal dinner. I just don't see what's so rude about offering a pre printed menu with five choices on it. We're not telling people that have to eat one thing. They have a choice.
Why on earth would you pay for this? Why would you let the restaurant bill you for this? It's not rude to offer a pre-printed menu, but if that's what you are going to do - you are going to have to stand behind it and not let people take advantage of you. You LET them do what they did. If you don't want to stand up to them, then choose a venue where they won't be able to take advantage. Or better yet, don't invite them.
Again you are assuming we paid for them. My IL's paid for them. We don't pay for things we don't want to pay for. I'm just trying to tell you that sometimes you HAVE to interact with some people and you do the best you can with what you have.
But why would they allow that???? People cannot take advantage of you without your permission.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Thanks mom.if she rhoughtI reallyintentions why royed the meatloaf and pureed green beans. So what. I will live to eat another day. Id it made My Mom happy then it would have made me happy.
Why can't Mom want her kids to be happy?
My boys don't like mushrooms on their pizza. DH and I do. I would never force them to eat something they didn't like.
flan
Because i know my mom did thngs out of love. So if she truly had good intentions why try to paint it as some terrible thing.
It doesn't sound like the Mom in the letter is motivated by love, though.
And we were quite fine paying for all of our tab. We had no issues whatsoever. But my SIL and BIL are known to buy extra meals and take them home. They will ask for four extra meals to go. When we plan for twenty people that means twenty people. Not twenty four meals. My SIL is just a mooch. She was in my wedding party. I couldn't exactly NOT invite her to the wedding rehearsal dinner. I just don't see what's so rude about offering a pre printed menu with five choices on it. We're not telling people that have to eat one thing. They have a choice.
Why on earth would you pay for this? Why would you let the restaurant bill you for this? It's not rude to offer a pre-printed menu, but if that's what you are going to do - you are going to have to stand behind it and not let people take advantage of you. You LET them do what they did. If you don't want to stand up to them, then choose a venue where they won't be able to take advantage. Or better yet, don't invite them.
Again you are assuming we paid for them. My IL's paid for them. We don't pay for things we don't want to pay for. I'm just trying to tell you that sometimes you HAVE to interact with some people and you do the best you can with what you have.
But why would they allow that???? People cannot take advantage of you without your permission.
Why do my in laws do this? Because my SIL is a spoiled rotten brat. They spend thousands and thousands of dollars every weekend going dirt bike racing and then they don't have money for food. I'm not exaggerating. During dirt bike season they are gone every single weekend driving all over the country and staying in hotels to go race. There are entrance fees for these races and they have to pay for travel and food. Then they claim they are broke and have no money for groceries and that the kids are going hungry. So my in laws pay for whatever they want because they don't want the kids to go hungry. Truth is my in laws are huge part of making my SIL the brat she is.
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I learned early in my marriage how to say no to my SIL. Although DH stood behind me 100% and said no just as many times.
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DH and I don't like going anywhere with my tacky SIL. And since DH works over a lot of holidays he came home once and we hadn't had a chance to exchange gifts with my in laws. DH called them and invited them to meet us at IHOP on us. We left OUR kids home thinking we would have a nice adult dinner. When we got there my SIL was there with her two kids. She ordered them meals and with extra pancakes and bacon. The kids didn't eat a thing. They ran around the restaurant screaming, drinking from syrup bottles, and walking on top of the TABLES while SIL texted on her phone the whole time. As she was getting ready to go she ordered another meal for her and one for her husband and each of the kids. My FIL picked up the whole bill. We did not even fight him. DH left the tip though. But in all honesty the tip was much less than we would have spent on a dinner for four.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
DH and I don't like going anywhere with my tacky SIL. And since DH works over a lot of holidays he came home once and we hadn't had a chance to exchange gifts with my in laws. DH called them and invited them to meet us at IHOP on us. We left OUR kids home thinking we would have a nice adult dinner. When we got there my SIL was there with her two kids. She ordered them meals and with extra pancakes and bacon. The kids didn't eat a thing. They ran around the restaurant screaming, drinking from syrup bottles, and walking on top of the TABLES while SIL texted on her phone the whole time. As she was getting ready to go she ordered another meal for her and one for her husband and each of the kids. My FIL picked up the whole bill. We did not even fight him. DH left the tip though. But in all honesty the tip was much less than we would have spent on a dinner for four.
Oh my stars! To bad you all couldn't quitly sneak out while she was occupied with the phone and leave her the bill.
DH and I don't like going anywhere with my tacky SIL. And since DH works over a lot of holidays he came home once and we hadn't had a chance to exchange gifts with my in laws. DH called them and invited them to meet us at IHOP on us. We left OUR kids home thinking we would have a nice adult dinner. When we got there my SIL was there with her two kids. She ordered them meals and with extra pancakes and bacon. The kids didn't eat a thing. They ran around the restaurant screaming, drinking from syrup bottles, and walking on top of the TABLES while SIL texted on her phone the whole time. As she was getting ready to go she ordered another meal for her and one for her husband and each of the kids. My FIL picked up the whole bill. We did not even fight him. DH left the tip though. But in all honesty the tip was much less than we would have spent on a dinner for four.
Oh my stars! To bad you all couldn't quitly sneak out while she was occupied with the phone and leave her the bill.
That's just how my SIL rolls. But I suppose if my in laws invited her they can pay her tab.
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I love good meatloaf. I like it better the next day on a sandwich.
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Everything. Meatloaf is a horrible excuse for meat.
Why? It's basically a hamburger with some seasoning and breadcrumbs. How can that be "horrible"?
No, no, no! Blech. It's overcooked, and the breadcrumbs make it too dry, and most crazy people put nasty stuff like green peppers or ketchup in it. shudder
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Everything. Meatloaf is a horrible excuse for meat.
Why? It's basically a hamburger with some seasoning and breadcrumbs. How can that be "horrible"?
No, no, no! Blech. It's overcooked, and the breadcrumbs make it too dry, and most crazy people put nasty stuff like green peppers or ketchup in it. shudder
Well, I agree, there is too much "creativity" when it comes to meatloaf. I don't want a bunch of weird crap in it either. Hamburger is delish and doesn't need a lot of help.
Everyone loves my meatloaf. People have requested it for different gatherings.
I don't use big pieces of peppers and onions. I mince them. I want the flavor more than the texture.
I use tomatoes too. Stewed tomatoes give it a better flavor.
Saltines and bread crumbs that make. That is the filler. Remember meatloaf was a way to make your food dollar go farther.
Sometimes I use bbq sauce instead of ketchup.
Other things too but I can't give all my secrets away.
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Another thing I do is drain it. About half way through I drain it. I don't want it swimming in all the grease. Greasy meatloaf is not good.
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I made meatloaf once about 20 years ago. I filled the loaf pan abut 3/4 full, and before the time was up, the grease had spilled over and caught the oven on fire. Last time I ever made meat loaf. No one told me you had to drain it, but I figured it out real fast.
I cannot make a good meatloaf. Thus, my family does not eat meatloaf often.
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It's basically meatloaf but without the wet stuff added. Just the egg, some bread crumbs or saltines, the seasonings, pepper and onions. I make burger patties and fry them. It's so good.
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It's basically meatloaf but without the wet stuff added. Just the egg, some bread crumbs or saltines, the seasonings, pepper and onions. I make burger patties and fry them. It's so good.
I'll be right over ...
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I made meatloaf once......it was a disaster. I'll eat meatloaf if it is served but it isn't a favorite. I will not eat it if someone tries to hide peas & carrots in the loaf. My friend's mother did that. Blech.
Peas and carrots do not belong in meatloaf. Gross.
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Yeah the hidden veggies were just gross. My mom didn't do that thankfully. Her meatloaf was ok, sometimes a little dry. She didn't do the ketchup glaze on top like my grandmother did. My grandmother's was the best I've ever tried but like I said, not a favorite so I've never ordered it in a restaurant or anything. Sometimes I eat the Stouffer's frozen one for lunch when I get tired of my usuals. It's ok.