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Not sure why u would want to send your kids to a place with a lot of intoxicated people around but maybe you dont care what your kids are exposed too.


What happened to "not my monkey..."?

I know what my kids are able to do. 

You know what your kids are able to do. 

IF you are not comfortable With it, then fine. 

If someone is, then fine. 

 


   You are the one criticizing me for not wanting to do it.  So yeah.


 No I am not. Are you reading the right posts?

I am agreeing with you.

If you don't feel your child, General you and your, is not ready to go,  if the parent feels they are not ready for a trip like this, then I agree. They shouldn't let them go. 

I am not the one trying to passively say a parent doesn't care about their kid if they let them go.

 



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Well, sorry but I am not going to PAY for my daughter to go some alcohol fueled sex party. If you are adult and have your own money to spend to go down there, fine and dandy. But, mommy ain't paying for that.


 Don't you trust your daughter? Her friends?

 


You started the baloney Lilly.  This has nothing to do with trusting my daughter.  So, now you want to wonder why people bark back at you when you take the first bite.  Chomp. 



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No way would I let DS go on spring break in HS and no way in hell is DD going. I will take her somewhere if she needs a vaca.

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No way would I let DS go on spring break in HS and no way in hell is DD going. I will take her somewhere if she needs a vaca.


Don't you trust your DS or DD?   wink 



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lilyofcourse wrote:
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Not sure why u would want to send your kids to a place with a lot of intoxicated people around but maybe you dont care what your kids are exposed too.


What happened to "not my monkey..."?

I know what my kids are able to do. 

You know what your kids are able to do. 

IF you are not comfortable With it, then fine. 

If someone is, then fine. 

 


   You are the one criticizing me for not wanting to do it.  So yeah.


 No I am not. Are you reading the right posts?

I am agreeing with you.

If you don't feel your child, General you and your, is not ready to go,  if the parent feels they are not ready for a trip like this, then I agree. They shouldn't let them go. 

I am not the one trying to passively say a parent doesn't care about their kid if they let them go.

 


 This is the slam LIly. Just because someone doesn't want their kid going does not mean that their kid is not ready, or that they don't trust their kid. 



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I started with...
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I didn't go but just about everyone else did.

C had something going on here so she didn't go. I think it was some trip with her friends at church. So she was one of the few that didn't go.

It's tradition.

I understand the concern but by then, they ain't gonna do anything in Florida they are not doing on any given weekend any way.

Senior trip was another trip everyone took. I went to work instead.

We lost two classmates on the way down that year.


And then I continued the conversation from there.

You sippin the perpetually offended kool aid these days?

 



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lilyofcourse wrote:
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Well, sorry but I am not going to PAY for my daughter to go some alcohol fueled sex party. If you are adult and have your own money to spend to go down there, fine and dandy. But, mommy ain't paying for that.


 Don't you trust your daughter? Her friends?

 


 It's totally different when you're hundreds of miles away from your home & your parents.

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 No it isn't. There is nothing happening in Florida that isn't happening in your home town. 


 Now you're just deluding yourself...Wall to wall kids, skimpy bathing suits, sun, sand & booze...NOTHING like "your home town."

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Yeah, you continued the conversation after the Slam. So, then why are YOU offended with my comments back at ya?

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No way would I let DS go on spring break in HS and no way in hell is DD going. I will take her somewhere if she needs a vaca.


Don't you trust your DS or DD?   wink 


 LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL  Yeah cause letting a bunch of teens loose to roam with no adult supervision to a place where condoms and booze are the top sellers is a good place for hormone rage kids is such a good parenting decision! confuse



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Well, sorry but I am not going to PAY for my daughter to go some alcohol fueled sex party. If you are adult and have your own money to spend to go down there, fine and dandy. But, mommy ain't paying for that.


 Don't you trust your daughter? Her friends?

 


 It's totally different when you're hundreds of miles away from your home & your parents.

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 No it isn't. There is nothing happening in Florida that isn't happening in your home town. 


 Now you're just deluding yourself...Wall to wall kids, skimpy bathing suits, sun, sand & booze...NOTHING like "your home town."

flan


Yeah, that ain't happening in my hometown.  Sheesh.   



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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Well, sorry but I am not going to PAY for my daughter to go some alcohol fueled sex party. If you are adult and have your own money to spend to go down there, fine and dandy. But, mommy ain't paying for that.


 Don't you trust your daughter? Her friends?

 


You started the baloney Lilly.  This has nothing to do with trusting my daughter.  So, now you want to wonder why people bark back at you when you take the first bite.  Chomp. 


 I asked a question. And then with the next post agreed with you. 

Really you are not that sensitive. 



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I never went on Spring Break, with my friends. All I wanted to do was catch up on my sleep.

My children never asked to go to Florida. We go often enough.

I took Paul and his friend Connor, to Palo Duro Canyon, a couple of years ago.

The trip to the Grand Canyon fell through.

We had a great time.smile

I always trusted my kids. They just never wanted to go to Florida, for Spring Break.



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NAOW wrote:
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Not sure why u would want to send your kids to a place with a lot of intoxicated people around but maybe you dont care what your kids are exposed too.


What happened to "not my monkey..."?

I know what my kids are able to do. 

You know what your kids are able to do. 

IF you are not comfortable With it, then fine. 

If someone is, then fine. 

 


   You are the one criticizing me for not wanting to do it.  So yeah.


 No I am not. Are you reading the right posts?

I am agreeing with you.

If you don't feel your child, General you and your, is not ready to go,  if the parent feels they are not ready for a trip like this, then I agree. They shouldn't let them go. 

I am not the one trying to passively say a parent doesn't care about their kid if they let them go.

 


 This is the slam LIly. Just because someone doesn't want their kid going does not mean that their kid is not ready, or that they don't trust their kid. 


 No it isn't. I can't believe this. 

Did the "general you and your" not translate?

A parent makes choices based on what they feel their kid is ready for and able to handle. 

If I am wrong about that, let me know. 



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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Well, sorry but I am not going to PAY for my daughter to go some alcohol fueled sex party. If you are adult and have your own money to spend to go down there, fine and dandy. But, mommy ain't paying for that.


 Don't you trust your daughter? Her friends?

 


 It's totally different when you're hundreds of miles away from your home & your parents.

flan


 No it isn't. There is nothing happening in Florida that isn't happening in your home town. 


 Now you're just deluding yourself...Wall to wall kids, skimpy bathing suits, sun, sand & booze...NOTHING like "your home town."

flan


Yeah, that ain't happening in my hometown.  Sheesh.   


 Well it may be happening in your home town but if you are doing due diligence with your kids they won't be partaking, same with spring "let;s get drunk and f***" break.



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Didn't say I was. But, I thought you wouldn't think it wise to send your kids into a den of iniquity.

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lilyofcourse wrote:
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Not sure why u would want to send your kids to a place with a lot of intoxicated people around but maybe you dont care what your kids are exposed too.


What happened to "not my monkey..."?

I know what my kids are able to do. 

You know what your kids are able to do. 

IF you are not comfortable With it, then fine. 

If someone is, then fine. 

 


   You are the one criticizing me for not wanting to do it.  So yeah.


 No I am not. Are you reading the right posts?

I am agreeing with you.

If you don't feel your child, General you and your, is not ready to go,  if the parent feels they are not ready for a trip like this, then I agree. They shouldn't let them go. 

I am not the one trying to passively say a parent doesn't care about their kid if they let them go.

 


 This is the slam LIly. Just because someone doesn't want their kid going does not mean that their kid is not ready, or that they don't trust their kid. 


 No it isn't. I can't believe this. 

Did the "general you and your" not translate?

A parent makes choices based on what they feel their kid is ready for and able to handle. 

If I am wrong about that, let me know. 


 You are wrong about that.  It isn't about what my child can "handle" or not handle. So, you now stand corrected.



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lilyofcourse wrote:
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lilyofcourse wrote:
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Not sure why u would want to send your kids to a place with a lot of intoxicated people around but maybe you dont care what your kids are exposed too.


What happened to "not my monkey..."?

I know what my kids are able to do. 

You know what your kids are able to do. 

IF you are not comfortable With it, then fine. 

If someone is, then fine. 

 


   You are the one criticizing me for not wanting to do it.  So yeah.


 No I am not. Are you reading the right posts?

I am agreeing with you.

If you don't feel your child, General you and your, is not ready to go,  if the parent feels they are not ready for a trip like this, then I agree. They shouldn't let them go. 

I am not the one trying to passively say a parent doesn't care about their kid if they let them go.

 


 This is the slam LIly. Just because someone doesn't want their kid going does not mean that their kid is not ready, or that they don't trust their kid. 


 No it isn't. I can't believe this. 

Did the "general you and your" not translate?

A parent makes choices based on what they feel their kid is ready for and able to handle. 

If I am wrong about that, let me know. 


 You are insinuating that people (general) aren't sending their kids because they don't trust them, don't think the kids are ready, can't handle it, etc. when it has nothing to do with that. 



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Well, sorry but I am not going to PAY for my daughter to go some alcohol fueled sex party. If you are adult and have your own money to spend to go down there, fine and dandy. But, mommy ain't paying for that.


 Don't you trust your daughter? Her friends?

 


 It's totally different when you're hundreds of miles away from your home & your parents.

flan


 No it isn't. There is nothing happening in Florida that isn't happening in your home town. 


 Now you're just deluding yourself...Wall to wall kids, skimpy bathing suits, sun, sand & booze...NOTHING like "your home town."

flan


You have to be kidding.

Kids in your town don't gather, wear bathing suits, some drinking? None of the kids in your town do anything, go any where, never do things kids do?

The same kids that are drinking, having sex and doing drugs on Spring Break are the same ones doing it in their own home towns.  



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I don't remember anyone doing this when I was a senior in high school.

And my kids didn't, and I didn't hear about any of their friends doing it.

Doesn't sound wise to allow high school seniors to do this. Especially kids under 18 - legal ramifications and all.



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lilyofcourse wrote:
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Well, sorry but I am not going to PAY for my daughter to go some alcohol fueled sex party. If you are adult and have your own money to spend to go down there, fine and dandy. But, mommy ain't paying for that.


 Don't you trust your daughter? Her friends?

 


 It's totally different when you're hundreds of miles away from your home & your parents.

flan


 No it isn't. There is nothing happening in Florida that isn't happening in your home town. 


 Now you're just deluding yourself...Wall to wall kids, skimpy bathing suits, sun, sand & booze...NOTHING like "your home town."

flan


You have to be kidding.

Kids in your town don't gather, wear bathing suits, some drinking? None of the kids in your town do anything, go any where, never do things kids do?

The same kids that are drinking, having sex and doing drugs on Spring Break are the same ones doing it in their own home towns.  


 Yep. I totally did that in high school.. but my mom didn't give her blessing and send me off either. 

ETA: I wasn't as bad as your example..



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And, responsible parents don't go out of their way to put their children in those situations.

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Ok. Great. Whatever. I don't see what we are saying is different but apparently you do.



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It's vastly different.

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Keep on deluding yourself, Lily.

A vacation is different...no work, no school, no curfew...

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I was 19 my Spring break my senior year.

So was C.

Maybe that's the big difference.

And it isn't about being bad.

Thinking a kid can't be exposed or involved in any of the party stuff in their own home town is just plain silly.



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I would think the purity of your daughter might be something you would take an interest in.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

It's vastly different.


 No. We are saying the exact same thing. 

 



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I was 19 my Spring break my senior year.

So was C.

Maybe that's the big difference.

And it isn't about being bad.

Thinking a kid can't be exposed or involved in any of the party stuff in their own home town is just plain silly.


19 in senior year of high school? That's not the norm at all. Most kids are 17 or 18 in senior year. At least around here. 



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When you roll in the mud with pigs, you get dirty. Soo, if you choose to send your daughter into some alcohol fueled binge party, then of course, that is your right.

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I was 19 my Spring break my senior year.

So was C.

Maybe that's the big difference.

And it isn't about being bad.

Thinking a kid can't be exposed or involved in any of the party stuff in their own home town is just plain silly.


19 in senior year of high school? That's not the norm at all. Most kids are 17 or 18 in senior year. At least around here. 


 Same here. 



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I was 19 my Spring break my senior year.

So was C.

Maybe that's the big difference.

And it isn't about being bad.

Thinking a kid can't be exposed or involved in any of the party stuff in their own home town is just plain silly.


19 in senior year of high school? That's not the norm at all. Most kids are 17 or 18 in senior year. At least around here. 


 I graduated from HS when I was 17.  And, yes, there is a difference between a 17 yr old minor and a 19 yr old adult. 



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Keep on deluding yourself, Lily.

A vacation is different...no work, no school, no curfew...

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 This is when you have to know your kid. 

What they are able to handle and are ready for. 

Like I have been saying the whole stinkin time.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

When you roll in the mud with pigs, you get dirty. Soo, if you choose to send your daughter into some alcohol fueled binge party, then of course, that is your right.


And, once you're down there, you really can't escape that...

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Keep on deluding yourself, Lily.

A vacation is different...no work, no school, no curfew...

flan


 This is when you have to know your kid. 

What they are able to handle and are ready for. 

Like I have been saying the whole stinkin time.


Why are you so Obtuse?  I don't want her to have to "handle" it whether she can "handle it" or not.  Wow. 



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Natalee Holloway?

Anyone?

Who saw that coming?

Not her parents, yet, they sent her on that trip.

Nope. Call me old fashioned. Not me. I wouldn't let my child go.cry



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

When you roll in the mud with pigs, you get dirty. Soo, if you choose to send your daughter into some alcohol fueled binge party, then of course, that is your right.


 I think it's about not wanting your kid to be collateral damage. You can have a mature and responsible kid who is making the best decisions.. but the other kids are not. You don't want their bad decisions to hurt or affect your kid.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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Keep on deluding yourself, Lily.

A vacation is different...no work, no school, no curfew...

flan


 This is when you have to know your kid. 

What they are able to handle and are ready for. 

Like I have been saying the whole stinkin time.


Why are you so Obtuse?  I don't want her to have to "handle" it whether she can "handle it" or not.  Wow. 


 Seriously, so Lily you are ok with exposing your DD with a beach full of alcoholed fueled over sexed boys?  I am not ok with that with my DD. Do you know what can happen?  The thought of it just gives me the creeps.



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I was 19 my Spring break my senior year.

So was C.

Maybe that's the big difference.

And it isn't about being bad.

Thinking a kid can't be exposed or involved in any of the party stuff in their own home town is just plain silly.


19 in senior year of high school? That's not the norm at all. Most kids are 17 or 18 in senior year. At least around here. 


 Yes. When I transfered from private to public I didn't have enough credits. I turned 19 in February my senior year.

C's birthday falls after the cut off for kindergarten. 

So does A so he will be 19 as well. 

Actually J will turn 19 in March his Senior year. 

So yeah, 19. 

And I agree that 17 and 19 are vastly different. 

Goes back to what I said about knowing your kid and what they are ready for and able to handle.

SEE? We are saying the same thing. 



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OMG. You can know your kid can handle it and still think it's a bad idea to ship them off to that situation.

Frankly I hope I never feel like my daughter is 'ready' to go to a sex and booze filled week long party.. but if you do, more power to you.

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There is not ONE poster here who is agreeing with you, Lily.

Spring break in Florida is NOT something you can "practice" for.

BAM!

Free booze, no one's carding you, new "friends" are egging you on.

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When you roll in the mud with pigs, you get dirty. Soo, if you choose to send your daughter into some alcohol fueled binge party, then of course, that is your right.


And, once you're down there, you really can't escape that...

flan 


 So everyone that goes down there are drunk and screwing all day? 

No one can be above that? 

Not everyone follows blindly like lemmings. 

I have been in PCB during Senior trips and the kids out number the cops 5/1.

it was loud, it was crowded, and yes there was some partying, but altogether they were just kids having fun in the sun. 

 



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Keep on deluding yourself, Lily.

A vacation is different...no work, no school, no curfew...

flan


 This is when you have to know your kid. 

What they are able to handle and are ready for. 

Like I have been saying the whole stinkin time.


Why are you so Obtuse?  I don't want her to have to "handle" it whether she can "handle it" or not.  Wow. 


 Wash, rinse , repeat.  Try reading it again.



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OMG. You can know your kid can handle it and still think it's a bad idea to ship them off to that situation.

Frankly I hope I never feel like my daughter is 'ready' to go to a sex and booze filled week long party.. but if you do, more power to you.


 Of course there are other standards for lack of a better word. 

A what point have I said go against your better judgement? 

I havent. 

 



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flan327 wrote:

There is not ONE poster here who is agreeing with you, Lily.

Spring break in Florida is NOT something you can "practice" for.

BAM!

Free booze, no one's carding you, new "friends" are egging you on.

flan


 Sure kids can go down there and try to behave, but you are exposing your kids to the madness and safety issues. I will not do that.  And if your kid isn't that type of partyer why would you send them there?  Send them where that crap is happening.



-- Edited by I know what to do_sometimes on Wednesday 11th of March 2015 07:47:17 PM

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lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

When you roll in the mud with pigs, you get dirty. Soo, if you choose to send your daughter into some alcohol fueled binge party, then of course, that is your right.


And, once you're down there, you really can't escape that...

flan 


 So everyone that goes down there are drunk and screwing all day? 

No one can be above that? 

Not everyone follows blindly like lemmings. 

I have been in PCB during Senior trips and the kids out number the cops 5/1.

it was loud, it was crowded, and yes there was some partying, but altogether they were just kids having fun in the sun. 

 


 Getting drunk and screwing is what spring break is KNOWN for.  So, yeah, not everyone is doing that.  But, why in the world would I opt to send my daughter into that environment?   My kids have been to the beach many times.  And, if they want to go, we can go or they fund their own trips when they graduate and have that thing called a J O B.



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Natalee Holloway?

Anyone?

Who saw that coming?

Not her parents, yet, they sent her on that trip.

Nope. Call me old fashioned. Not me. I wouldn't let my child go.cry


That's a good example. And there are probably plenty more. Maybe not necessarily murder or disappearing, but bad things. Alcohol poisoning. Pregnancy. STDs. Rape.



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There is not ONE poster here who is agreeing with you, Lily.

Spring break in Florida is NOT something you can "practice" for.

BAM!

Free booze, no one's carding you, new "friends" are egging you on.

flan


 I don't care what your opinion is on the matter. 



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flan327 wrote:

There is not ONE poster here who is agreeing with you, Lily.

Spring break in Florida is NOT something you can "practice" for.

BAM!

Free booze, no one's carding you, new "friends" are egging you on.

flan


 Sure kids can go down there and try to behave, but you are exposing your kids to the madness and safety issues. I will not do that.


 It's like saying "Oh, I read Playboy for the insightful articles".  Uh huh.



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I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
flan327 wrote:

There is not ONE poster here who is agreeing with you, Lily.

Spring break in Florida is NOT something you can "practice" for.

BAM!

Free booze, no one's carding you, new "friends" are egging you on.

flan


 Sure kids can go down there and try to behave, but you are exposing your kids to the madness and safety issues. I will not do that.  And if your kid isn't that type of partyer why would you send them there?  Send them where that crap is happening.



-- Edited by I know what to do_sometimes on Wednesday 11th of March 2015 07:47:17 PM


 Opps, "isn't happening"



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Honestly for all your professions as a Christian woman, not sure why you would think it appropriate to place your children in that situation? But, again, that's your choice.

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