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A Bronx mother of two who wanted to teach her young child a lesson about not stealing called the police hoping they’d take some time to swing by and talk to her kids about breaking the law. While she certainly wouldn’t be the first parent to try this approach, an enraged officer managed to miss the point entirely and instead destroy a family. Sadly, the only lesson the kids learned was one that the NYPD has been trying (and often failing) to change: If you’re poor and black, don’t call the cops.

After Tyeesha Mobley noticed that her 9-year-old son had taken $10 out of her purse, she phoned the police and asked that an officer come by and explain why stealing was wrong. According to Mobley, the station sent four officers to meet her. By all accounts the meeting started off cordial. Three of the officers joked with the boys.

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Initially, the interaction with officers was light-hearted, according to a transcript of Mobley’s account during a October 2014 preliminary hearing with the city over her then-plans to sue the city.

“They started asking Tyleke what did he take,” Mobley said at the hearing. “He told them. And about three officers was joking around with him, telling him, ‘You can’t be stealing, you’ll wind up going in the police car.’”

Unfortunately, a fourth officer grew increasingly upset, leading into a racist rant against Mobley that only escalated with every minute. According to Mobley’s lawyer, the officer yelled:

“You black b—-es don’t know how to take care of your kids … you need to call the kids’ father, not us … we can’t raise your kids … why are you wasting our time, we aren’t here to raise your kid … why don’t you take your f—ing kid and leave?”

Sadly, stereotypes abound. Rather than viewing Mobley as a person, the officer labels her a bad mother and assumes the kids must have an absent father. Making matters worse, his anger had reached such a zenith that he decided he would arrest her for… something?

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The officer then handcuffed her, threw her against a squad car and kicked her legs, she recalled.

“All I was saying is, ‘Please stop, you’re hurting me, my kids is there,’” she said.

She added that her children were crying, saying, “Stop, you’re hurting mommy.”

The officer’s actions even prompted a female colleague in a squad car to roll down her window and tell him, “We are not supposed to act like this,” the lawsuit says.

But the arresting officer responded to his female colleague by saying, “Black b—-es like that … this is how I treat them,” according to the suit.

Again, the racism is palpable. In the wake of the arrest, which left Mobley battered, she also had her kids taken from her for four months. Based on no evidence outside of the racist officer’s head, she was charged with child endangerment. For the “crime” of wanting her kids to learn not to steal.

Needless to say, a judge took one look at the case and dismissed it out of hand. Now, Mobley has filed a lawsuit against the NYPD for wrongful arrest and for the resulting psychological damage done to her children while they were separated from their mother. America’s biggest law enforcement outfit is used to it. In the past five years, the department has been forced to pay nearly half a billion dollars in settlements.

It’s unclear whether Mobley’s children ever got the message about not stealing, but they probably have an understandable fear of police now



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This is unacceptable.

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Wow.

First of all...why did they send four officers to this call??? Ridiculous. One neighborhood patrol officer could have handled it.

Second, I agree, the mother should not bother the police with this type of call. This is a parenting moment, not a law enforcement moment.

Third, if a fellow officer says you are acting out of line, it must be pretty bad. Lol

This officer should be relegated to desk duty permanently. But he probably will be given a paid vacation.

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She shouldn't have called the police. He was right about that, it isn't the cops place to raise her kids.

And if this dialogue did take place, then yes, it is wrong and needs to be corrected. Punished.

I say if because at this point it is alleged and not proven.

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My dad did a ton of these types of calls. Of course we lived in Mayberry and he was a total access town cop. It doesn't strike me as strange since that's how I was raised.

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And asking for a lesson isn't asking them to raise her kids. Geez.

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Unbelievable. I can't understand why the other 3 officers didn't pull him off her & calm him down.

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And if they were sooooo busy, why did they send 4 officers. I'm sure if they vot a call they would have left to take care of it. This wasn't taking them away from anything at the moment and it could have built good will. Building good will and strong community ties isn't a waste of time. Imo.



-- Edited by voiceofreason on Tuesday 17th of March 2015 02:19:39 PM

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I am thinking the area they were in, the call that came over the radio and whatever else were determining factors.

We tend to base our assumptions on what we have known.



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A long time ago my friend's youngest was an escape artist. She tried latches up high & he would just drag out a kitchen chair. Her neighbor was a fireman & worked a late shift & often found him out wandering around very late when his family was sleeping. As a favor he had some of his cop buddies come talk to the boy about why it was dangerous to be out at night. Generally around here they are happy to provide a teaching moment. The one who responded to my horrible tenants was more than happy to walk me through the eviction process & even called me back later to make sure everything was ok. I don't think the mother was out of line calling the police to scare her boy into not stealing. She thought she was teaching him not to steal.

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voiceofreason wrote:

And if they were sooooo busy, why did they send 4 officers. I'm sure if they vot a call they would have left to take care of it. This wasn't taking them away from anything at the moment and it could have built good will. Building good will and strong community ties isn't a waste of time. Imo.



-- Edited by voiceofreason on Tuesday 17th of March 2015 02:19:39 PM


Maybe they're afraid to send less than four officers into any building in her neighborhood. 

 



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Wow. THis is completely unacceptable.

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I agree about it not being a big deal to call and ask the cops to help teach a lesson. I've heard of that being done since I was a kid. They could have said no.. or just sent one officer.. or just the 3 officers who were handling it appropriately.

I hope she wins. That was a huge overreaction and abuse of power. Her poor kids, to witness that and then be taken away without knowing what was going on. For MONTHS. That should not happen.

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voiceofreason wrote:

My dad did a ton of these types of calls. Of course we lived in Mayberry and he was a total access town cop. It doesn't strike me as strange since that's how I was raised.


 But the OP took place in the Bronx. Huge difference. It's a high crime borough. There is no need to bother the cops for this type of call when there are a LOT more important things they should be doing in that neighborhood. Like preventing murders. 



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voiceofreason wrote:

My dad did a ton of these types of calls. Of course we lived in Mayberry and he was a total access town cop. It doesn't strike me as strange since that's how I was raised.


 But the OP took place in the Bronx. Huge difference. It's a high crime borough. There is no need to bother the cops for this type of call when there are a LOT more important things they should be doing in that neighborhood. Like preventing murders. 


 How do cops prevent murders?  Would you be ok with mom calling to talk to the kids about how guns can kill?  



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She had no business calling the cops to her house. It's not their responsibility to go out of their way to talk to her kid...

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No, she shouldn't have bothered the cops with this, BUT, the cops reaction was completely and totally out of line. The only lesson the young, impressionable black child learned is that cops are the enemy. Brilliant.

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I don't think she should have called the police for something like this, and I imagine the fourth officer was irritated she had called 911 for a non-emergency. Fair enough. But, the officer's actions are clearly over the line and he should be punished for them. At a minimum, he should be brought up on assault charges and lose his job. Clearly he is not cut out for law enforcement.



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It doesn't say she called 911. She could have called the non emergency line to ask them to help out. she phoned the police and asked that an officer come by and explain why stealing was wrong. They easily could have told her no and said they don't do that type of thing.



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The one in the OP doesn't, but the one linked in it does.

http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150317/morrisania/mom-arrested-after-asking-police-talk-young-son-about-stealing-suit

From the first paragraph at the link: 

 

A Bronx mom of two who called 911 to ask police to come talk to her young son about why stealing is bad was wrongfully arrested and

told by an NYPD officer “you black b----es don’t know how to take care of your kids,” a new lawsuit charges.

 



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Why couldn't she take the kid to the police station for this lesson? That would have made a bigger impact and they do tours and such and could have made a real point.

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That would be a good alternative lily. I still have visions of my classmates in the back of dads squad in tears so I'm ok with what she did.

The real issue is the officers behavior though, not the moms. She had good intentions. I'm pretty sure this wouldn't have happened if it were a white woman...

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Thing is, in this day and time, you don't call the cops unless it is a real police situation and once you do involve the cops, you no longer control the situation.

No. If these allegations are true, then the officer should not have done this and should be fired. Prosecuted and punished.

But calling the police was not the best idea. Not in my opinion.

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Whether it was a good idea or not is irrelevant, the cop needs to be punished severely. Like naow said, they had the option to tell her no and not drive out at all. I personally think that not only should the rogue cop be held responsible, the other cops should too for standing around and watching it happen.

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To everyone going on about how it "wasn't a good idea for her to call", I equate that with saying a rape victim shouldn't have been wearing skimpy clothes. They are both victims regardless of the circumstances.

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