Lawyerlady wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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Calling out the bullies and saying those parents should take responsibility for the words their kids said, because those words hurt...you need to then apply that standard to this boy as well. His words hurt too. Why is that so difficult to understand?

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 His parents have - they sent him to be evaluated for two weeks.  What have the parents of the bullies done?  If you are going to expel this boy for words, you have to expel all the bullies for their words, too.  And they just expel all kids and close the public schools because a lot of kids say mean things and a lot of words hurt.

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There is no evidence of any bullying. The boy's parents are saying he was bullied. It's hearsay. There is certainly evidence of what the boy wrote, however. So there is proof of his threatening words. No article has said anything about proof of the others bullying him. 

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Blankie wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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Calling out the bullies and saying those parents should take responsibility for the words their kids said, because those words hurt...you need to then apply that standard to this boy as well. His words hurt too. Why is that so difficult to understand?

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 His parents have - they sent him to be evaluated for two weeks.  What have the parents of the bullies done?  If you are going to expel this boy for words, you have to expel all the bullies for their words, too.  And they just expel all kids and close the public schools because a lot of kids say mean things and a lot of words hurt.

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There is no evidence of any bullying. The boy's parents are saying he was bullied. It's hearsay. There is certainly evidence of what the boy wrote, however. So there is proof of his threatening words. No article has said anything about proof of the others bullying him. 

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 IF there are pexpel bullying him, they need dealt with too. I never said they didn't. But disregarding what he wrote because someone else did something you didn't like and was disregarded (possibly) isn't right either. 

Well I looked up assault and even if the aggressor intended it to be a practical joke and never had any intention of going through with it, it's still considered assault if the victim knew about the threat and was afraid. Verbal assault that is. But it's still punishable by law.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Blankie wrote:

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From another article:

On the final page of the online blog that has caused such a commotion at Tidwell Middle School, the student writes, “If anyone is wondering if/when this story ends, it will end with a bang. I promise.”

Well that certainly sounds like a threat to me.

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 Or a play on words. 

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Now who has her head stuck in the sand?

 

flan

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:

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What, we want to punish kids for expressing their feelings in a safe and creative way? Jesus.

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 an 11-part story that details attacks on specific students, using knives, scissors, sexual assaults, and even a 7-Eleven Slurpee machine, according to parents who spoke with CBS DFW. “It’s very graphic

 

That's why.  SPECIFIC STUDENTS.

Here is our Schools Policy. And, the Super CAN choose to expel a student based on our Discipline codes.

 

 

 

Purpose



The Board recognizes the danger that terroristic threats by students presents to the safety and welfare of District students, staff and community. The Board acknowledges the need for an immediate and effective response to a situation involving such a threat.



Definitions



Communicate - shall mean to convey in person or by written or electronic means, including telephone, electronic mail, Internet, facsimile, telex and similar transmissions.[1]



Terroristic threat - shall mean a threat communicated either directly or indirectly to commit any crime of violence with the intent to terrorize another; to cause evacuation of a building, place of assembly or facility of public transportation; or to otherwise cause serious public inconvenience, or cause terror or serious public inconvenience with reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.[1]



Authority



The Board prohibits any District student from communicating terroristic threats directed at any student, employee, Board member, community member or property owned, leased or being used by the district.



In the case of a student with a disability, the District shall take all steps required to comply state and federal laws and regulations, the procedures set forth in the memorandum of understanding with local law enforcement and Board policies.[2][3][4][5][6][9]



If a student is expelled for making terroristic threats, the Board may require, prior to readmission, that the student provide competent and credible evidence that the student does not pose a risk of harm to others.
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Delegation of Responsibility



The Superintendent or designee shall react promptly to information and knowledge concerning a possible or actual terroristic threat. Such action shall be in compliance with state law and regulations and with the procedures set forth in the memorandum of understanding with local law enforcement officials and the District’s emergency preparedness plan.[7][8][9]



Guidelines



Staff members and students shall be made aware of their responsibility for informing the building principal regarding any information or knowledge relevant to a possible or actual terroristic threat.[10]



The building principal shall immediately inform the Superintendent after receiving a report of such a threat.



The Superintendent or designee shall report incidents involving terroristic threats on school property, at any school-sponsored activity or on a conveyance providing transportation to or from a school or school-sponsored activity to the local police department that has jurisdiction over the school’s property, in accordance with state law and regulations, with the procedures set forth in the memorandum of understanding with local law enforcement and Board policies.[7][9][11][12][13]



The Superintendent or designee shall notify the parent/guardian of any student directly involved in an incident involving a terroristic threat as a victim or suspect immediately, as soon as practicable. The Superintendent or designee shall inform the parent/guardian whether or not the local police department that has jurisdiction over the school property has been or may be notified of the incident. The Superintendent or designee shall document attempts made to reach the parent/guardian.[9][12][14]



The Superintendent shall be responsible for developing administrative regulations to implement this policy.



In accordance with state law, the Superintendent shall annually, by July 31, report all incidents of terroristic threats to the Office for Safe Schools on the required form.[11]



In accordance with Pennsylvania law, the administration is granted the authority to seek to recover damages recoverable for the evacuation of a school building due to a terroristic threat.

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The Tidwell principal sent a letter to all parents telling them they have taken the following steps. At least they are not just dismissing it.

 

As a result of the quick action taken by the campus and through cooperation with local law enforcement, the

 

campus took and continues to take the following steps:

 

 

• the students’ safety was secured by providing added adult supervision

• teachers were made aware to the extent necessary and appropriate

• the campus promptly notified parents of the student who allegedly wrote the posting

• the campus promptly notified parents of any students identified in the posting

• the campus worked with the students’ parents to address issues and offered services, including

 

 

 

counseling and separation from the students involved

 

 

• the campus continues to monitor the situation

• the campus continues to cooperate with law enforcement

 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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I don't see why this had to be handled publicly. Why couldn't this have been handled privately?

None of the other kids or parents needed to know anything. The boys name did not have to be released publicly.

If he had been being bullied by students, he is now going to be bullied by adults and the media. And it really could be nothing more than creative writing.

It's being blown out of proportion. And to the detriment of the boy.

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Lily, the minute he posted this on the internet, he went public with it, himself.

I'm surprised I haven't heard more about this. I usually watch NBC for local news. They haven't mentioned this story.

Roanoke is 5 miles North of us. Cute little town. I'll be curious to see how this all pans out. 

And if this was not done on a school computer or school website, the school shouldn't have a single thing to do with it. Period.

The local police should be handling it and the school should not have anything to do with it.

They say, it is being handled through the proper authorities. And that is all.

Again. If this was not done on school property or school site, the school should have nothing to do with any of it.

I don't want any one hurt. This is a child. All of them are kids.

At my sons school, there was a "Hit List" being thrown around. Posted on a Facebook page. Parents pulled their kids...and they should have. This is a Hit List to me....

This absolutely SHOULD be public.

flan

lilyofcourse wrote:

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I don't see why this had to be handled publicly. Why couldn't this have been handled privately?

None of the other kids or parents needed to know anything. The boys name did not have to be released publicly.

If he had been being bullied by students, he is now going to be bullied by adults and the media. And it really could be nothing more than creative writing.

It's being blown out of proportion. And to the detriment of the boy.

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Why shouldn't they know?   People should know if someone is threatening to harm, maim or kill others. 

Look, has he actually assaulted anyone? No--so I don't think such charges have merit and likely won't hold up.

HOWEVER, let's say they found this out and did nothing--and then a week later he steals a gun and kills some classmate.

What would the storyline be, then?

That those in authority KNEW and did nothing.

Again, I think criminal charges at this point are probably over the top and not likely to hold up in court. I don't think, however, than a suspension or expulsion would be out of order.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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And if this was not done on a school computer or school website, the school shouldn't have a single thing to do with it. Period.

The local police should be handling it and the school should not have anything to do with it.

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Well, but they do.  And if there are threats made over Social Media etc, the School can take action. 

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 This is the thing that bothers me. Too much said on personal time is being made a punishable offense. I think it is too close to restricting free speech. 

Thats my problem. 

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 Talking about gruesome ways to murder another human being...that should not be taken lightly.

flan

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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And if this was not done on a school computer or school website, the school shouldn't have a single thing to do with it. Period.

The local police should be handling it and the school should not have anything to do with it.

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Well, but they do.  And if there are threats made over Social Media etc, the School can take action. 

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 This is the thing that bothers me. Too much said on personal time is being made a punishable offense. I think it is too close to restricting free speech. 

Thats my problem. 

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 Free speech doesn't mean speech without restriction or without consequences. There are plenty of ways speech is restricted and regulated and none of it is new. We have libel laws, blackmail laws, you cannot incite a riot, etc. Free speech doesn't mean "say whatever you want without consequences". 

It must be the new rage in DFW. Threaten to kill your classmates on social media.  I just ran across this article.

Molina HS Student Arrested For Threatening To Kill Students On Social Media

 

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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We will see.

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 See what?

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It's either the slippery slope, ISIS, or the Endtimes.

flan