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Man Tells Wife He Was Joking When He Proposed 20 Years Ago (VIDEO)

       
                                     
 
 
 

David is a husband, father and former pastor who has been married to his high school sweetheart, Jennifer, for 20 years. Together, they have two sons and, as it would appear on the outside, an ordinary relationship. But David has been living a double life for years.

Secretly, he has been cheating, hiding a pornography addiction and visiting online chat rooms to meet sex partners. Though she's aware of the betrayals and lies within her marriage, Jennifer is desperate to keep the relationship going and writes to Iyanla Vanzant seeking her advice and counsel in how to move forward as a couple.

When Iyanla arrives, she learns more about the situation. David has moved into his own apartment, but can't seem to fully let go, still coming home for weekly dinners. Jennifer still wears her wedding ring -- and wears David's, which he took off two years ago. Both David and Jennifer had difficult childhoods, but found comfort in each other. So, when David playfully asked Jennifer to marry him, she said yes. David says that the day the two got engaged was the day his marriage ended, because it was something he never seriously wanted.

Iyanla tells David that he must be honest with himself and his wife. In the above video from "Iyanla: Fix My Life," she has the estranged couple sit down together so David can tell Jennifer the truth about the proposal that began their complicated lives together.

"So, Mr. David," Iyanla begins. "What is it you need to communicate to Ms. Jennifer for moving forward?"

For a moment, David is quiet as his wife stares at him. Then he speaks.

"I didn't want to be married," he tells Jennifer. "At the time that I asked..."

David's voice trails off and Iyanla prepares Jennifer for what's to come. "Take a breath, Ms. Jenn," she says. "Take a breath."

David continues. "You know the manner in which I asked [you to marry me]? You're taking it seriously. I didn't mean it jokingly, but I was joking. I was lying," he says. "I accepted your 'yes' as a means of feeling normal."

Jennifer does not speak. David tries to convey his feelings. "My choices to remain in a marriage that I knew I didn't want, it does not diminish that I care. It doesn't diminish that I love you. Because I do," he says. "I do want you to be my friend."

"Iyanla: Fix My Life" airs Saturday, June 7, at 9 p.m. ET on OWN.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/06/iyanla-vanzant-fix-my-double-life_n_5456464.html?utm_hp_ref=own&ir=OWN

 



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What a jerk!

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He isn't being honest with himself. No man goes through the motions of an engagement, a wedding and a 20 year marriage because he was joking when he proposed. He is using that to excuse his bad behavior in the marriage. It makes him feel not as guilty to say "well I never wanted this". If he truly didn't want it, he had plenty of opportunities to walk away before the wedding even happened.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

What a jerk!


 Those were my words exactly!

Glad he's not a pastor any more. What a bad example.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

What a jerk!


 Those were my words exactly!

Glad he's not a pastor any more. What a bad example.


 Oh my gosh...I totally missed this part! Wow. What an idiot. And quite honestly, based on what his comments are to her now, he is continuing to be an idiot. 



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Well. That's one I have never heard.

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What a putz!

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I don't understand why SHE didn't walk away from the cheating, lying porn addict long ago. Who wants that type of husband?

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I don't understand why SHE didn't walk away from the cheating, lying porn addict long ago. Who wants that type of husband?


 And she still "wants to move forward as a couple."  She needs serious help. 



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I don't understand why SHE didn't walk away from the cheating, lying porn addict long ago. Who wants that type of husband?


She has a home, financial support, and he doesn't beat her. She probably figures she's better off with him than without him. 

She might also think "all guys are like that" and / or "I couldn't do better."

 

 



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SHe's wasting her life. He. doesn't. Want. Her.

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I don't understand why SHE didn't walk away from the cheating, lying porn addict long ago. Who wants that type of husband?


She has a home, financial support, and he doesn't beat her. She probably figures she's better off with him than without him. 

She might also think "all guys are like that" and / or "I couldn't do better."

 

 


 We don't know that any of those things are true though...it doesn't say he is supporting her, or that he doesn't beat her. Although I doubt he does beat her, he doesnt live with her anymore. 



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When I hear of men/women like this I just appreciate and love my husband even more.

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it's important to learn how to forgive your spouse for minor indiscretions and to never hold grudges--the more you love them, the easier it is to do--it's part of loving one another, of supporting one another, of acknowledging that we're human and ( for the most part ) imperfect--the husband in this article, however, has committed unforgiveable offenses and many in number--and he has perpetuated a lie to the most important person in his world--he has acted without honour, without loyalty, without concern for her feelings--in short, he's been a bastard

she should sever all ties with him, confiscate as many of his assets as she can to support their children, and move on with her life

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it's important to learn how to forgive your spouse for minor indiscretions and to never hold grudges--the more you love them, the easier it is to do--it's part of loving one another, of supporting one another, of acknowledging that we're human and ( for the most part ) imperfect--the husband in this article, however, has committed unforgiveable offenses and many in number--and he has perpetuated a lie to the most important person in his world--he has acted without honour, without loyalty, without concern for her feelings--in short, he's been a bastard

she should sever all ties with him, confiscate as many of his assets as she can to support their children, and move on with her life


 Amen! I totally agree! 



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Just another loser blaming someone else for why he didn't live his life the way he supposedly wanted to. Uh huh.

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it's important to learn how to forgive your spouse for minor indiscretions and to never hold grudges--the more you love them, the easier it is to do--it's part of loving one another, of supporting one another, of acknowledging that we're human and ( for the most part ) imperfect--the husband in this article, however, has committed unforgiveable offenses and many in number--and he has perpetuated a lie to the most important person in his world--he has acted without honour, without loyalty, without concern for her feelings--in short, he's been a bastard

she should sever all ties with him, confiscate as many of his assets as she can to support their children, and move on with her life


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Just another loser blaming someone else for why he didn't live his life the way he supposedly wanted to. Uh huh.


Yup.

 

I'm sure he'll spout some nonsense about "finding himself" or some other popular societal mantra that seems to be the excuse for many people to justify their actions in their minds when they blow up the lives of others--chiefly their family's.   



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Truly "finding yourself" happens when you finally stand up and accept responsibility for your own life and stop blaming others. That is finding yourself. Finding himself would have been, " Gee, I have harbored selfish resentment all of these years towards a wonderful woman who has stood by my side for 20 years and had my children. Shame on me and today I am going to be a stand up guy and better man and husband and father". THAT is finding yourself.

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Truly "finding yourself" happens when you finally stand up and accept responsibility for your own life and stop blaming others. That is finding yourself. Finding himself would have been, " Gee, I have harbored selfish resentment all of these years towards a wonderful woman who has stood by my side for 20 years and had my children. Shame on me and today I am going to be a stand up guy and better man and husband and father". THAT is finding yourself.


I guess you could look at it that way.  Mostly I think the term is psych0-babble nonsense.  It's a product of a society in which we don't have enough other crap to worry about.  We have a roof over our heads, clean water to drink, food in the pantry--so we have to create problems because we don't have enough real crap to deal with.  At least the people who live that mantra don't.  



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