TOTALLY GEEKED!

ed11563 · Guru

Dear Prudence - Pro-Life Friend Gets Abortion

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Now we will switch the gay debate to the abortion debate. Enjoy y'all.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Say tp your friend " What the hell are you thinking"?

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Playing on channel 10-gay rights. Playing on channel 25-abortion. Tune in to the crisis of your choice.

Ohfour · Hooker

Bullschitt letter. Meant to stir up crap...

karl271 · Guru

I am assuming this is the first time the pro-life friend got into a situation like this. It is one thing to support ideas, demonstrate, etc when you do not have a clue what it is like to become pregnant and a whole different kettle of fish when you do. But to have the procedure and then go right back to protesting.... What is this person thinking or does she have a compartmentalized brain??

And probably that can be applied to a lot of demonstrations who are righteously indignant about something without thinking the whole thing through.

chef · Guru

If this letter is real, the pro-life friend is a hypocrite.

huskerbb · Guru

I couldn't be friends with someone who had so little character and principles. Be an adult. OWN your decisions and choices.

ed11563 · Guru

I have to wonder, how many protestors, just like to PROTEST, and it doesn't matter to them what they are protesting against.

They get a rush by shouting, by spending time and energy with other protestors. Making "friends" because of a common interest ...

even if they're not really interested in whatever it is.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I don't buy it.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Yep, this sounds like a fake letter.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

ed11563 wrote:
I have to wonder, how many protestors, just like to PROTEST, and it doesn't matter to them what they are protesting against.
They get a rush by shouting, by spending time and energy with other protestors. Making "friends" because of a common interest ...
even if they're not really interested in whatever it is.

I agree with this. We have seen "fake" protesters many times over the past years or so. Pretend the letter is real, the friend is a jerk. I couldn't be friends with anyone that protests for a cause and then not uphold that cause in their personal life.

Tinydancer · Guru

People are hypocrites all the time.

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

This actually a thing. I read a fascinating article a few years ago where abortion doctors talked about this very thing--pro-lifers that get abortions, and then return to protesting .
I don't remember all of the details, but there was generally a disconnect, where the women were all convinced that they weren't like all those other women getting abortions, their need was much more pressing and real, they hadn't been careless, just had bad luck, etc.
It was an interesting read, I will see if I can find it later.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I don't dobut that it happens.

I doubt this letter.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I think most of the letters are just too neatly packaged.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I don't think I could continue to be her friend. Not because of the abortion, but because of the hypocrisy and lack of integrity.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Wouldn't it make more sense to be a good friend and help her to return to what she claims to believe?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Wouldn't it make more sense to be a good friend and help her to return to what she claims to believe?

She has already returned to what she believes. But she didn't DO what she believes. Somehow, she feels her actions are ok while screaming at other people doing the same thing. Continuing to be pro-life? OK. But continuing to protest at the same clinic and make other women feel bad for doing the same thing she did?

It would be different if the abortion changed her into a pro-life person. Like, if she had the abortion and then regretted it, and decided abortion was bad. But she knew all along that it was bad - and purposefully did it anyway.

Maybe if she shifted her focus from protesting to counseling or something. But, this would just bug me to no end.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I understand what you are saying. And, yes, jumping back in to protesting while having just done that is pretty smarmy.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I knew this would end up here. I saw it earlier and just knew we would end up beating this horse past its death.

The protester is a pretty despicable human being. I don't think I could be friends with her any longer.

-- Edited by Mellow Momma on Tuesday 7th of April 2015 09:27:22 AM

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This actually a thing. I read a fascinating article a few years ago where abortion doctors talked about this very thing--pro-lifers that get abortions, and then return to protesting .
I don't remember all of the details, but there was generally a disconnect, where the women were all convinced that they weren't like all those other women getting abortions, their need was much more pressing and real, they hadn't been careless, just had bad luck, etc.
It was an interesting read, I will see if I can find it later.

I read that also. The protesters have a very distorted view of who gets an abortion. They don't think they are one of "those people". Honestly, to me, it's just like a republican who is against gay rights, until someone in the family comes out and then suddenly they are all for it. This happens all the time, with both issues. People protest and yell and scream -- until it happens close to home. Then they want all the things they were just protesting against.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

I'd be tempted to out her in front of all her protester friends because the hypocrisy disgusts me.

Lindley · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
Bullschitt letter. Meant to stir up crap...

I think so too

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Mellow Momma wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This actually a thing. I read a fascinating article a few years ago where abortion doctors talked about this very thing--pro-lifers that get abortions, and then return to protesting .
I don't remember all of the details, but there was generally a disconnect, where the women were all convinced that they weren't like all those other women getting abortions, their need was much more pressing and real, they hadn't been careless, just had bad luck, etc.
It was an interesting read, I will see if I can find it later.
I read that also. The protesters have a very distorted view of who gets an abortion. They don't think they are one of "those people". Honestly, to me, it's just like a republican who is against gay rights, until someone in the family comes out and then suddenly they are all for it. This happens all the time, with both issues. People protest and yell and scream -- until it happens close to home. Then they want all the things they were just protesting against.

Oh paleassseee. Didn't you mean to say Christian? Just because someone as a certain party affiliation does not make them agree with every party "rule". Or are you referring to Gingrich? Why politicize this. The topic is an integrity and moral one, which certainly leaves politics out of it.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This actually a thing. I read a fascinating article a few years ago where abortion doctors talked about this very thing--pro-lifers that get abortions, and then return to protesting .
I don't remember all of the details, but there was generally a disconnect, where the women were all convinced that they weren't like all those other women getting abortions, their need was much more pressing and real, they hadn't been careless, just had bad luck, etc.
It was an interesting read, I will see if I can find it later.
I read that also. The protesters have a very distorted view of who gets an abortion. They don't think they are one of "those people". Honestly, to me, it's just like a republican who is against gay rights, until someone in the family comes out and then suddenly they are all for it. This happens all the time, with both issues. People protest and yell and scream -- until it happens close to home. Then they want all the things they were just protesting against.
Oh paleassseee. Didn't you mean to say Christian? Just because someone as a certain party affiliation does not make them agree with every party "rule". Or are you referring to Gingrich? Why politicize this. The topic is an integrity and moral one, which certainly leaves politics out of it.

No...I meant republican as in the several republican politicians who have been staunchly against gay rights until someone in their family came out. There have been several cases of this. I have no idea if they were Christians or not. I just know they were elected republican politicians.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Rob Portman and Dick Cheney to name just two. Both republicans. Both changed their minds when it hit home.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Let's not forget Obama. He did a 180 on the subject. And Clinton. Both based on the favor of the moment.

WYSIWYG · Guru

She has already returned to what she believes. But she didn't DO what she believes. Somehow, she feels her actions are ok while screaming at other people doing the same thing. Continuing to be pro-life? OK. But continuing to protest at the same clinic and make other women feel bad for doing the same thing she did?

It would be different if the abortion changed her into a pro-life person. Like, if she had the abortion and then regretted it, and decided abortion was bad. But she knew all along that it was bad - and purposefully did it anyway.

Maybe if she shifted her focus from protesting to counseling or something. But, this would just bug me to no end.

- Lawyerlady

______________________

This stated my feeling on an issue like this very well.

I can't stand hypocrisy. Like, Lawyerlady said, if she had been pro choice before and the abortion made her change her mind, I could reconcile that. But the fact that she was so anti-abortion that she was a protester, then she had one, then she went right back to protesting. That's just too much hypocrisy for me. I would not be able to remain friends with someone like that.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well, the only time values and morals really matter is when you actually have to use them. What you say is not indicative of that. What you DO is. Your DO is really all that matters not the blather that comes out of your mouth.

Ohfour · Hooker

Mellow Momma wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This actually a thing. I read a fascinating article a few years ago where abortion doctors talked about this very thing--pro-lifers that get abortions, and then return to protesting .
I don't remember all of the details, but there was generally a disconnect, where the women were all convinced that they weren't like all those other women getting abortions, their need was much more pressing and real, they hadn't been careless, just had bad luck, etc.
It was an interesting read, I will see if I can find it later.
I read that also. The protesters have a very distorted view of who gets an abortion. They don't think they are one of "those people". Honestly, to me, it's just like a republican who is against gay rights, until someone in the family comes out and then suddenly they are all for it. This happens all the time, with both issues. People protest and yell and scream -- until it happens close to home. Then they want all the things they were just protesting against.
Oh paleassseee. Didn't you mean to say Christian? Just because someone as a certain party affiliation does not make them agree with every party "rule". Or are you referring to Gingrich? Why politicize this. The topic is an integrity and moral one, which certainly leaves politics out of it.
No...I meant republican as in the several republican politicians who have been staunchly against gay rights until someone in their family came out. There have been several cases of this. I have no idea if they were Christians or not. I just know they were elected republican politicians.

That's just a really stupid comparison. Yes, they changed their mind, but didn't flip flop. They changed their mind. Period. Isn't that what you want us all to do? confuse

and MOST Conservatives DON'T change their mind. I have a gay family member, but that hasn't swayed my convictions one bit.

Ohfour · Hooker

We can't win, can we? If we hold firm to our convictions we are called bigots. When we "see the light" and agree with you, we are called flip floppers and hypocrites.

Ah, the mind of the liberal...