And FTR - Priests are not FORCED to live a life a celibacy. They CHOOSE to become priests.
I have a cousin who is a priest, so, yes, I KNOW THEY CHOOSE.
My point is that they may not fully comprehend the consequences of their choice until they have experienced years of celibacy.
flan
Then they are quite stupid. Plus, they can always leave the priesthood. It's not a crime...
Thanks, I'll tell my cousin that the next time I see him.
flan
Sorry but your cousin was stupid if he became a Catholic Priest but didn't think about his celibacy.
Or young and didn't think things through.
I just think that you can't fully be prepared for the effects of years of celibacy: hence the scandals with certain priests.
flan
You are blaming being a pedophile on celibacy???? No. That's a perverted mental sickness. Being a celibate priest did not make them pedophiles. They became priests because they thought it would keep them from acting and instead it gave them a candy store.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
So how is it all of the Priests who keep their vow and don't molest the altar boys are doing it? Some people are able to resist their urges and some don't even try. Priests are human after all. Blaming celibacy for those that chose to prey on children is wrong.
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Is Flan actually defending child molesters? Cause that's what I am seeing. Making the molester the victim.
And you know what the sad thing about it is? I'm not really surprised.
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And personally, if you have a man who chooses to be a priest to avoid temptations that are wrong, I think the church should let them, but put them to work away from the public. Let them be the priests that keep the books, or whatever.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Who's bashing flan. Stating the truth about what she posted is not bashing but if you want to see it that way I guess there's not much we can do about that.
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But, flan's a big girl. I think she is quite capable of taking care of herself.
I just consider the source, but I do appreciate what Blankie posted.
flan
So we were misquoting you? You didn't say what we said you did? It just makes it so easy to shut down the conversation if you pretend everyone's picking on you just because they're asking questions.
-- Edited by Tinydancer on Friday 10th of April 2015 10:14:11 AM
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Can we share our thoughts and opinions here without arguing?
I will if you will.
Open, discussion. No name calling or bashing from either side.
Well that didn't last too long, did it? This thread has become the let's bash flan festival. What else is new?
Bull. We are responding to her comments. And since YOU started the negativity that open the door for flan to jump on the negativity bandwagon with you, why don't you try taking some responsibility?
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Gosh I get sick of all the victimless victims around here. People really need to stop acting like every question is an attack on them. It's like they go out of their way to be offended.
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“Until I discovered cooking, I was never really interested in anything.” ― Julia Child ―
Can we share our thoughts and opinions here without arguing?
I will if you will.
Open, discussion. No name calling or bashing from either side.
Well that didn't last too long, did it? This thread has become the let's bash flan festival. What else is new?
Bull. We are responding to her comments. And since YOU started the negativity that open the door for flan to jump on the negativity bandwagon with you, why don't you try taking some responsibility?
No. I am not targeting or bashing individuals. You are bashing. Why don't you take some responsibility? Or is it that it's only bashing when others do it, never when you do?
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Can we share our thoughts and opinions here without arguing?
I will if you will.
Open, discussion. No name calling or bashing from either side.
Well that didn't last too long, did it? This thread has become the let's bash flan festival. What else is new?
Bull. We are responding to her comments. And since YOU started the negativity that open the door for flan to jump on the negativity bandwagon with you, why don't you try taking some responsibility?
No. I am not targeting or bashing individuals. You are bashing. Why don't you take some responsibility? Or is it that it's only bashing when others do it, never when you do?
How am I bashing? By disagreeing with her comments that celibacy causes pedophiles? People need to take responsibility for what they post - if they can't handle questions or disagreements about it, then don't post it.
Frankly, I think you are being a bully. Every time somebody posts something you don't like, they are bashing others. And yet, you take no responsibility for your own posts, or expect others that you agree with to take responsibility for theirs. I'm getting real tired of being labeled a "basher" for disagreeing with someone or asking them to explain the stuff they post. You are flipping adults - if you can't handle the fire, get out of the kitchen.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
How am I bashing? By disagreeing with her comments that celibacy causes pedophiles? People need to take responsibility for what they post - if they can't handle questions or disagreements about it, then don't post it.
Frankly, I think you are being a bully. Every time somebody posts something you don't like, they are bashing others. And yet, you take no responsibility for your own posts, or expect others that you agree with to take responsibility for theirs. I'm getting real tired of being labeled a "basher" for disagreeing with someone or asking them to explain the stuff they post. You are flipping adults - if you can't handle the fire, get out of the kitchen.
Well this is very interesting. So I'm a bully. I'm going back over all my posts on this thread and trying to find all the bullying. Having a hard time. But you are not a basher at all. You just called me a bully. But no, that's not bashing. It's not bashing because LL did it, and LL has a waiver.
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How am I bashing? By disagreeing with her comments that celibacy causes pedophiles? People need to take responsibility for what they post - if they can't handle questions or disagreements about it, then don't post it.
Frankly, I think you are being a bully. Every time somebody posts something you don't like, they are bashing others. And yet, you take no responsibility for your own posts, or expect others that you agree with to take responsibility for theirs. I'm getting real tired of being labeled a "basher" for disagreeing with someone or asking them to explain the stuff they post. You are flipping adults - if you can't handle the fire, get out of the kitchen.
Well this is very interesting. So I'm a bully. I'm going back over all my posts on this thread and trying to find all the bullying. Having a hard time. But you are not a basher at all. You just called me a bully. But no, that's not bashing. It's not bashing because LL did it, and LL has a waiver.
YOU are the one who started accusing others of bashing. What do you call that when someone consistently responds to discussion by accusing people of something they have not done? When, instead of responding to the discussion, you start attacking others.
You attack and then expect others to just roll over. You accuse others of bashing and being bullies without taking any responsibility for your own role in doing the EXACT SAME THING you are accusing others of doing.
It's plain ridiculous when people can't have a discussion without you bringing misery and victim-hood into it. YOU ARE NOT A VICTIM. FLAN IS NOT A VICTIM. Grow the fvck up.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
And I call it how I see it. I'm tired of people pretending they or others are victims when they are active participants. And then they try to blame others for being the bad guy.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
And I call it how I see it. I'm tired of people pretending they or others are victims when they are active participants. And then they try to blame others for being the bad guy.
Bravo!!!!!
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Note to self: asking a question about a post is not bashing. Accusing everyone of bashing is though.
It need clarification. Accusing everyone of bashing for simply asking questions about a post is bashing.
Kind of like being told asking questions is a "trap". Why are you even in the discussion if you are not going to be part of it, yet just swipe at others who are trying to have the discussion?
People really need to learn to see their own nastiness. And before anyone can comment more - I'm quite aware that my "grow the fvck up" could be seen as nasty. It doesn't make it less relevant.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Well, perhaps people should stop accusing me of something that isn't true. In case you haven't noticed - I never get nasty first.
I can't seem to find the post where people cursed at you. Could you help me and quote it?
Then you are being purposefully oblivious.
Oh, cursed. I didn't say cursed.
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So they get nasty first, but you get nasty worst. Nice.
Cursing is what makes it nastier? OH, well. I think accusing people of stuff and generally sniping at people is nastier. That's my opinion. I realize it's not yours. But opinions are like azzholes - everyone has one.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Well, perhaps people should stop accusing me of something that isn't true. In case you haven't noticed - I never get nasty first.
I can't seem to find the post where people cursed at you. Could you help me and quote it?
She didn't say someone cursed at her but twist her words to suit yourself. I can't take you seriously.
I know she didn't say someone cursed at her. She said they were being nasty. I was making the point that while they might have been, she is the one who resorted to cursing. Not them.
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Well, perhaps people should stop accusing me of something that isn't true. In case you haven't noticed - I never get nasty first.
I can't seem to find the post where people cursed at you. Could you help me and quote it?
She didn't say someone cursed at her but twist her words to suit yourself. I can't take you seriously.
I know she didn't say someone cursed at her. She said they were being nasty. I was making the point that while they might have been, she is the one who resorted to cursing. Not them.
Are there children on the board I'm unaware of?
Well, yes. I guess there are.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
So. You're grown women. Do you get the vapors and faint when someone swears at you? You started this with the whole "we're bashing flan" crap. Sometimes it's like talking with babies.
-- Edited by Tinydancer on Friday 10th of April 2015 12:38:40 PM
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Well, perhaps people should stop accusing me of something that isn't true. In case you haven't noticed - I never get nasty first.
I can't seem to find the post where people cursed at you. Could you help me and quote it?
She didn't say someone cursed at her but twist her words to suit yourself. I can't take you seriously.
I know she didn't say someone cursed at her. She said they were being nasty. I was making the point that while they might have been, she is the one who resorted to cursing. Not them.
Are there children on the board I'm unaware of?
Well, yes. I guess there are.
I seem to remember on another thread how cursing was so uneducated and base and beneath us all and how if we curse we are mere simpletons who cannot express ourselves properly.
Then, someone pulls out a curse word and I am the idiot for pointing it out.
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So. You're grown women. Do you get the vapors and faint when someone swears at you? You started this with the whole "we're bashing flan" crap. Sometimes it's like talking with babies.
-- Edited by Tinydancer on Friday 10th of April 2015 12:38:40 PM
Actually, she didn't start that. She just jumped into the fray.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
So. You're grown women. Do you get the vapors and faint when someone swears at you? You started this with the whole "we're bashing flan" crap. Sometimes it's like talking with babies.
-- Edited by Tinydancer on Friday 10th of April 2015 12:38:40 PM
I NEVER said that. That was Blankie. Not me. I have not given my opinion on the matter. But since you asked so nicely, I happen to agree with you! So there.
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Out of all the lies I have told, "just kidding" is my favorite !