TOTALLY GEEKED!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Something else to discuss.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Mellow Momma wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Note to self: asking a question about a post is not bashing. Accusing everyone of bashing is though.
I would agree with this.

Here is me...agreeing with you.

Tinydancer · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
So. You're grown women. Do you get the vapors and faint when someone swears at you? You started this with the whole "we're bashing flan" crap. Sometimes it's like talking with babies.

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Friday 10th of April 2015 12:38:40 PM
Actually, she didn't start that. She just jumped into the fray.

Sorry. You're right. It was Blankie that accused us of bashing flan. I forget they sometimes like to poke and run...

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yeah, I think Flan can stand up for herself. Sheesh.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
It also doesn't make it any less nasty.
Well, perhaps people should stop accusing me of something that isn't true. In case you haven't noticed - I never get nasty first.
I can't seem to find the post where people cursed at you. Could you help me and quote it?
She didn't say someone cursed at her but twist her words to suit yourself. I can't take you seriously.
I know she didn't say someone cursed at her. She said they were being nasty. I was making the point that while they might have been, she is the one who resorted to cursing. Not them.
Are there children on the board I'm unaware of?

Well, yes. I guess there are.
I seem to remember on another thread how cursing was so uneducated and base and beneath us all and how if we curse we are mere simpletons who cannot express ourselves properly.
Then, someone pulls out a curse word and I am the idiot for pointing it out.

Do you recall who said it?

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

No I don't. But I recall that it was the majority opinion.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Maybe you should have used those southern manners and just said "bless your heart"

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
No I don't. But I recall that it was the majority opinion.

Well, I certainly don't curse in the professional world - but cursing has its place. Usually to show frustration at very stupid issues.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Geez.

I ask if Flan is defending child molesters and that I'm not surprised by it.

I think it was a valid question. And a valid opinion.

NEITHER ARE BASHING!

As for the tone of this thread, everyone here is capable of reading. Anyone with a brain is able to see who is responsible for what.

No one can be both the aggressor and the victim.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
Maybe you should have used those southern manners and just said "bless your heart"

Now, now. Based on prior threads - that's even NASTIER. I should be direct and not hide behind colloquialisms. See, damned if you do and damned it you don't.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Bashing is good. It gets the blood pumping. It's even better than grilled cheese!

Tinydancer · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Note to self: asking a question about a post is not bashing. Accusing everyone of bashing is though.
I would agree with this.
Here is me...agreeing with you.

No one was bashing flan. The bashing started when Blankie jumped in to tell us we were bashing. Then you jumped in to "protect flan". LL got sick of all the whining and told you both to "grow the fVck up". If you were really agreeing with me this would have been over by now.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Tinydancer wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Note to self: asking a question about a post is not bashing. Accusing everyone of bashing is though.
I would agree with this.
Here is me...agreeing with you.
No one was bashing flan. The bashing started when Blankie jumped in to tell us we were bashing. Then you jumped in to "protect flan". LL got sick of all the whining and told you both to "grow the fVck up". If you were really agreeing with me this would have been over by now.

The "grow the fvck up" was not directed at MM.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
It also doesn't make it any less nasty.
Well, perhaps people should stop accusing me of something that isn't true. In case you haven't noticed - I never get nasty first.
I can't seem to find the post where people cursed at you. Could you help me and quote it?
She didn't say someone cursed at her but twist her words to suit yourself. I can't take you seriously.
I know she didn't say someone cursed at her. She said they were being nasty. I was making the point that while they might have been, she is the one who resorted to cursing. Not them.
Are there children on the board I'm unaware of?

Well, yes. I guess there are.
I seem to remember on another thread how cursing was so uneducated and base and beneath us all and how if we curse we are mere simpletons who cannot express ourselves properly.
Then, someone pulls out a curse word and I am the idiot for pointing it out.
Do you recall who said it?

Lily.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Note to self: asking a question about a post is not bashing. Accusing everyone of bashing is though.
I would agree with this.
Here is me...agreeing with you.
No one was bashing flan. The bashing started when Blankie jumped in to tell us we were bashing. Then you jumped in to "protect flan". LL got sick of all the whining and told you both to "grow the fVck up". If you were really agreeing with me this would have been over by now.
The "grow the fvck up" was not directed at MM.

I don't know why I keep confusing MM with Blankie.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

What I get really tired of is people trying to sway the discussion by accusing others of bashing or whatever when the discussion isn't going their way. It's like "I have nothing valid to say in response to this, but golly, I'll just start accusing people of being bullies because they have valid points. Maybe that will distract from the real issue and nobody will see that I (or my friend) have no good basis for our posts."

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Blankie wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Grow the fvck up.
Well, what a nice excerpt this is from you to me. I think I'll save this one.
I think it reflects your Christian attitude quite well.
You know "do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
Say unto others, too . . .

I'll embroider it on a sampler for you!

What colors would you like?

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I'm not apologizing for having friends who are adults and can think for themselves.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

Christian doesn't mean doormat so I love when you tell someone their Christian duty...lol

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Oh, and the "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"?

I certainly hope that when I am stupid enough to make completely false claims against others that people will call me on it.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Tinydancer wrote:
Christian doesn't mean doormat so I love when you tell someone their Christian duty...lol

It's especially wonderful when it comes from someone who is the instigator.

I mean, how is that for morality? I can say whatever I want to you, but since you are a Christian, you better just take it?

-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Friday 10th of April 2015 01:04:20 PM

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Mellow Momma wrote:
Maybe you should have used those southern manners and just said "bless your heart"

But you had a problem with that too!

Something along the line of being more nasty because it was what you consider to be not straight forward.

Now this is straight forward and you are suggesting the other should have been used because it would have been nicer.

The way I see it, you don't give a crap which is used, you just like being contrary.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And I am the one who said using cuss words is tacky, and all that.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
I'm not apologizing for having friends who are adults and can think for themselves.

flan

But who obviously don't think the same of you since they are always coming to your defense like you are not capable of taking care of yourself or explaining your own posts.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
And I am the one who said using cuss words is tacky, and all that.

So, you are to blame for this latest deflection? Where they are ignoring the crux of my post because I dared to curse and now that's the focus?

Well, bollocks, I say! Bloody hell! Cursing in British is fun.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
And I am the one who said using cuss words is tacky, and all that.

So, you are to blame for this latest deflection? Where they are ignoring the crux of my post because I dared to curse and now that's the focus?

Well, bollocks, I say! Bloody hell! Cursing in British is fun.

Guilty!

Sorry.

But we both know they latched on to the cussing to avoid the facts.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I'm not apologizing for having friends who are adults and can think for themselves.

flan
But who obviously don't think the same of you since they are always coming to your defense like you are not capable of taking care of yourself or explaining your own posts.

LOL!!

Cause that has EVER happened!!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I'm not apologizing for having friends who are adults and can think for themselves.

flan
But who obviously don't think the same of you since they are always coming to your defense like you are not capable of taking care of yourself or explaining your own posts.
LOL!!
Cause that has EVER happened!!

Nope, and it never will...I live to please all y'all.

~Insert emoticon here~

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
And I am the one who said using cuss words is tacky, and all that.

So, you are to blame for this latest deflection? Where they are ignoring the crux of my post because I dared to curse and now that's the focus?

Well, bollocks, I say! Bloody hell! Cursing in British is fun.

Guilty!
Sorry.
But we both know they latched on to the cussing to avoid the facts.

Cussing doesn't bother me.

Nastiness does.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I'm not apologizing for having friends who are adults and can think for themselves.

flan
But who obviously don't think the same of you since they are always coming to your defense like you are not capable of taking care of yourself or explaining your own posts.
LOL!!
Cause that has EVER happened!!
Nope, and it never will...I live to please all y'all.
~Insert emoticon here~
flan

Explains a lot. Really does.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
And I am the one who said using cuss words is tacky, and all that.

So, you are to blame for this latest deflection? Where they are ignoring the crux of my post because I dared to curse and now that's the focus?

Well, bollocks, I say! Bloody hell! Cursing in British is fun.

Guilty!
Sorry.
But we both know they latched on to the cussing to avoid the facts.

Cussing doesn't bother me.
Nastiness does.
flan

Proving my point.

-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Friday 10th of April 2015 01:13:27 PM

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Good girl, Lily!!!!

You get a gold star!

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
Good girl, Lily!!!!

You get a gold star!

flan

Condescension.

Next stop, personal insult.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Good girl, Lily!!!!

You get a gold star!

flan
Condescension.
Next stop, personal insult.

Gonna have to disappoint you there...I'm not a Mod, so I don't get a pass.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Good girl, Lily!!!!

You get a gold star!

flan
Condescension.
Next stop, personal insult.
Gonna have to disappoint you there...I'm not a Mod, so I don't get a pass.
flan

Like that has ever stopped you.

Tinydancer · Guru

Yes flan because you've never called anyone names. Don't you remember going to a Mod because I used a word, then you used the same word over and over again as an insult to me? You think you're witty but you really just make me wonder what's happened in your life to make you so passive/aggressive and not even be able to tell.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

JPT wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
JPT wrote:
There are plenty of us atheists that don't even think about what you posted in the OP. We don't sit around chewing on our non believer status.

Most of us just sit and listen to how Christians think we are somehow "Lost" or "lacking in hope or purpose" No, we are decent people who treat others as we would like to be treated.

If you are a believer, fine! It gives you hope and comfort, and that's not any skin off my back.

Now when you want to codify your religious beliefs into civil law, I might not be all that agreeable. I don't walk into a church and tell them how to practice their faith. So please don't walk into my sphere and tell me how to live my non believing life.

Regards,
JPT, atheist.
Not afraid of burning in hell.
"Your sphere". The world belongs to everyone. The religious do not have to confine their religion to church.
Absolutely, but civil law belongs to all, church beliefs belong in church. Live your life and faith, fine! But I will contest laws that put Christian religious beliefs into a civil code that affects me.

Case in point. Here in our area, there are counties and cities that restrict alcohol sales on Sunday. This is the influence of Baptists (mostly) that eschew drinking alcohol at all. So they demanded and got laws prohibiting it on Sunday.
Now those whose beliefs don't include alcohol prohibition are affected by the rules of a certain sect. My thoughts, heck if YOUR faith is asbtaining, then abstain. Don't force everyone else to abide by those religious rules.
It would be the same if Catholics demanded a law that no birth control could be sold on certain days because THEY don't believe in it.

When I say my "sphere", I meant placing a religious rule in place that puts restrictions on others that don't share the same rules.
Oh, and I will say that I've run into plenty of those who profess to abstain from alcohol for religious reasons wandering around the liquor store.

Let's get back to real discussion.

The problem is that the supreme court has heard this issue long ago, and decided there was enough secular reason to uphold the blue laws.

And drinking alcohol is not considered a sin - only drinking to excess is.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

And here is the thing - if a person's moral code is founded in their religious beliefs, there is just not really a way to separate that from the person and the decisions they make. It is part of who they are. So telling someone with religious convictions that their religious beliefs cannot influence how they vote or otherwise disenfranchises them.

And the same can be said for atheists who try to impose regulations on people that go against their religious convictions.

A balance has to be found.

WYSIWYG · Guru

Celibacy is not unnatural. It's a choice. We are not rutting animals. - Lawyerlady

________________________

It is definitely a choice, on that there can be no argument. I disagree however, that it's not unnatural.

Tinydancer · Guru

WYSIWYG wrote:
Celibacy is not unnatural. It's a choice. We are not rutting animals. - Lawyerlady

________________________

It is definitely a choice, on that there can be no argument. I disagree however, that it's not unnatural.

Because it's not something you would be able to do or because they're doing it as a sign of their faith? Either way it doesn't matter what you would do unless you're going to be a Catholic Priest.

Vette · Owl drink to that!

I just watched Lucy, it was okay. Not spectacular. Scarlett is beautiful as always.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

VetteGirl wrote:
I just watched Lucy, it was okay. Not spectacular. Scarlett is beautiful as always.

We watched it too...predictable, but okay.

flan

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

I watched it as well. I was glad I didn't blow the $$ at the theater to see it.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I am dying to see Whiplash!

flan

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

See what happens when you cable modem dies? You miss all the fun!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
See what happens when you cable modem dies? You miss all the fun!

I think it would have been more fun to beat your head against a brick wall, but that's just me!

flan

elphaba · Newbie

I think the op was among the least offensive perspectives on atheism I've read online, but that's admittedly not a very high bar. :)

I was raised catholic, but I'd say that I've been an atheist since birth. I went through all the childhood sacrements, but it was purely going through the motions for me, and for my parents as well I presume. It wasn't until I was in my twenties that I actually understood that people actually believed the bible was literal... I'd always assumed everyone paid it lipservice but that it was seen only as a set of parables and guidelines to live your life. I was shocked when I first spoke with an acquaintance who believed in the biblical origin story, but it offered me a great perspective on how others view the world.
I personally classify myself as a bit of a reluctant atheist; I'd love to believe there was a kindhearted caretaker for our world, or in life after death, but life has taught me that I'm just not wired that way. I'd like to believe in karma or some other system that would provide rewards to those who do good in the world and justice for those who don't, but experience has taught me that isn't the case. I try to be a good person because I believe its my responsibility to our society; and I frankly feel better about myself if I truly believe I'm kind, fair and generous, and I'm teaching my children to be great people.
I struggle with how to raise my kids outside the structure of the church with which I was raised; I think that there is value in understanding the judeo-christian origins of our society and that some of the christian stories I was taught as a child teach important life lessons. I've contemplated joining a church or even enrolling them in sunday school, but I'm unwilling to lie to them as my parents did to me and I'm not sure they're at an age where they could navigate the waters of being respectful of the beliefs of others while being honest about mine.

Edited for horrible phone typing now that I'm back at my laptop.

-- Edited by elphaba on Saturday 11th of April 2015 04:45:01 PM

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Well said, elphaba.

flan

Vette · Owl drink to that!

elphaba wrote:
I think the op was among the least offensive perspectives on atheism I've read online, but that's admittedly not a very high bar. :)

I was raised catholic, but I'd say that I've been an atheist since birth. I went through all the childhood sacrements, but it was purely going through the motions for me, and for my parents as well I presume. It wasn't until I was in my twenties that I actually understood that people actually believed the bible was literal... I'd always assumed everyone paid it lipservice but that it was seen only as a set of parables and guidelines to live your life. I was shocked when I first spoke with an acquaintance who believed in the biblical origin story, but it offered me a great perspective on how others view the world.
I personally classify myself as a bit of a reluctant atheist; I'd love to believe there was a kindhearted caretaker for our world, or in life after death, but life has taught me that I'm just not wired that way. I'd like to believe in karma or some other system that would provide rewards to those who do good in the world and justice for those who don't, but experience has taught me that isn't the case. I try to be a good person because I believe its my responsibility to our society; and I frankly feel better about myself if I truly believe I'm kind, fair and generous, and im teaching my children to be great people.
I struggle with how to raise my kids outside the structure of the church with which I was raised; I think that there is value in understanding the judeochristian origins of our society and that some of the christian stories I was taught as a child teach important life lessons. I'vI've contemplated joining a church ot even enrolling them in sunday school, but I'm unwilling to lie to them as my parents did to me and im not sure they're at an age where they could navigate the waters of being respectful of the beliefs of others while being honest about mine.

I would love your opinion on how it is even mildly offensive? I'm not trying to be a smart ass I'm genuinely curious because I didn't think there was anything offensive about it and I showed my atheist brother and he thought it was pretty cool.