So then we should rely on common sense. They are married and were sexually active even AFTER she supposedly couldn't consent--and no one cared. There is no reason to assume she would not consent now. There were no signs of force or abuse.
My issue isn't the sex. I think that is fine. My issue is doing it in the middle of nursing home without some real privacy.
Like I said--I have no problem making him pony up for a private room.
Said by someone with plenty of money.
This guy might be flat broke, on a fixed income paying nursing home expenses.
None of us get to tell someone else how to spend their money.
He's a state senator. It's highly unlikely he's broke.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
So then we should rely on common sense. They are married and were sexually active even AFTER she supposedly couldn't consent--and no one cared. There is no reason to assume she would not consent now. There were no signs of force or abuse.
My issue isn't the sex. I think that is fine. My issue is doing it in the middle of nursing home without some real privacy.
Like I said--I have no problem making him pony up for a private room.
Said by someone with plenty of money.
This guy might be flat broke, on a fixed income paying nursing home expenses.
None of us get to tell someone else how to spend their money.
He's a state senator. It's highly unlikely he's broke.
Maybe he is; they're not ALL corrupt.
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The Principle of Least Interest: He who cares least about a relationship, controls it.
I really think it's funny that grown adults who have had sex have such an issue about it happening near them.
Yeah, but except in rare cases--sex is a private thing in practicality. Most people aren't into porn--and even if they are, they usually view that in private, too.
Sex just isn't a spectator sport when talking about MOST participants.
Just look at what everyone said when the subject of "swinging" came up. Most people thought it was gross and inappropriate. I doubt that same room sex would have gotten a much better reception.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I really think it's funny that grown adults who have had sex have such an issue about it happening near them.
Yeah, but except in rare cases--sex is a private thing in practicality. Most people aren't into porn--and even if they are, they usually view that in private, too.
Sex just isn't a spectator sport when talking about MOST participants.
Just look at what everyone said when the subject of "swinging" came up. Most people thought it was gross and inappropriate. I doubt that same room sex would have gotten a much better reception.
Well, I certainly don't want to watch or have others watch me, but this wasn't a case of being on display. It was in her room behind a curtain.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I really think it's funny that grown adults who have had sex have such an issue about it happening near them.
Yeah, but except in rare cases--sex is a private thing in practicality. Most people aren't into porn--and even if they are, they usually view that in private, too.
Sex just isn't a spectator sport when talking about MOST participants.
Just look at what everyone said when the subject of "swinging" came up. Most people thought it was gross and inappropriate. I doubt that same room sex would have gotten a much better reception.
Well, I certainly don't want to watch or have others watch me, but this wasn't a case of being on display. It was in her room behind a curtain.
I doubt if you would want them to hear you, either, or that you would really want to hear your parents, or a child, "going at it".
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I really think it's funny that grown adults who have had sex have such an issue about it happening near them.
Yeah, but except in rare cases--sex is a private thing in practicality. Most people aren't into porn--and even if they are, they usually view that in private, too.
Sex just isn't a spectator sport when talking about MOST participants.
Just look at what everyone said when the subject of "swinging" came up. Most people thought it was gross and inappropriate. I doubt that same room sex would have gotten a much better reception.
Well, I certainly don't want to watch or have others watch me, but this wasn't a case of being on display. It was in her room behind a curtain.
I doubt if you would want them to hear you, either, or that you would really want to hear your parents, or a child, "going at it".
What I want doesn't matter. I often heard my parents.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
If you are telling me that you would be perfectly comfortable if, when you are sitting and visiting with your elderly aunt in the nursing home, a couple comes in the room, draws the curtain, and start having sex with you still in the room--you are a liar.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I really think it's funny that grown adults who have had sex have such an issue about it happening near them.
Yeah, but except in rare cases--sex is a private thing in practicality. Most people aren't into porn--and even if they are, they usually view that in private, too.
Sex just isn't a spectator sport when talking about MOST participants.
Just look at what everyone said when the subject of "swinging" came up. Most people thought it was gross and inappropriate. I doubt that same room sex would have gotten a much better reception.
Well, I certainly don't want to watch or have others watch me, but this wasn't a case of being on display. It was in her room behind a curtain.
I doubt if you would want them to hear you, either, or that you would really want to hear your parents, or a child, "going at it".
What I want doesn't matter. I often heard my parents.
And was it comfortable--or would you have rather been anywhere else at the time? Did you put a glass up to the wall so you could hear better, or try to ignore it?
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
If you are telling me that you would be perfectly comfortable if, when you are sitting and visiting with your elderly aunt in the nursing home, a couple comes in the room, draws the curtain, and start having sex with you still in the room--you are a liar.
I hardly doubt he'd be doing that with visitors in the room. It was night, and likely thought the roommate was sleeping. Are you telling me you've never heard other people having sex? The next hotel room? The college dorm room? The next tent?
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I really think it's funny that grown adults who have had sex have such an issue about it happening near them.
Yeah, but except in rare cases--sex is a private thing in practicality. Most people aren't into porn--and even if they are, they usually view that in private, too.
Sex just isn't a spectator sport when talking about MOST participants.
Just look at what everyone said when the subject of "swinging" came up. Most people thought it was gross and inappropriate. I doubt that same room sex would have gotten a much better reception.
Well, I certainly don't want to watch or have others watch me, but this wasn't a case of being on display. It was in her room behind a curtain.
I doubt if you would want them to hear you, either, or that you would really want to hear your parents, or a child, "going at it".
What I want doesn't matter. I often heard my parents.
And was it comfortable--or would you have rather been anywhere else at the time? Did you put a glass up to the wall so you could hear better, or try to ignore it?
I was in bed and could hear them through the wall - no glass needed.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
If you are telling me that you would be perfectly comfortable if, when you are sitting and visiting with your elderly aunt in the nursing home, a couple comes in the room, draws the curtain, and start having sex with you still in the room--you are a liar.
I hardly doubt he'd be doing that with visitors in the room. It was night, and likely thought the roommate was sleeping. Are you telling me you've never heard other people having sex? The next hotel room? The college dorm room? The next tent?
Sure--and it's awkward. Depending on who it is, it could also vary from amusing to gross.
Either way, it's not something I would go out of my way to hear--but maybe that's just me. If you are a voyeur in that way, I guess to each their own.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
If you are telling me that you would be perfectly comfortable if, when you are sitting and visiting with your elderly aunt in the nursing home, a couple comes in the room, draws the curtain, and start having sex with you still in the room--you are a liar.
I hardly doubt he'd be doing that with visitors in the room. It was night, and likely thought the roommate was sleeping. Are you telling me you've never heard other people having sex? The next hotel room? The college dorm room? The next tent?
Sure--and it's awkward. Depending on who it is, it could also vary from amusing to gross.
Either way, it's not something I would go out of my way to hear--but maybe that's just me. If you are a voyeur in that way, I guess to each their own.
It's a part of life. Big deal.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Of course, most of the time its private. But hearing people having sex is really not the big deal some of you are making it out to be. It's going to happen sometimes.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Of course, most of the time its private. But hearing people having sex is really not the big deal some of you are making it out to be. It's going to happen sometimes.
But we are entitled to our opinion on the subject.
And it depends who we're hearing...Strangers? Not as big of a deal as family.
Of course, most of the time its private. But hearing people having sex is really not the big deal some of you are making it out to be. It's going to happen sometimes.
But we are entitled to our opinion on the subject.
And it depends who we're hearing...Strangers? Not as big of a deal as family.
flan
And I'm entitled to mine.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Of course, most of the time its private. But hearing people having sex is really not the big deal some of you are making it out to be. It's going to happen sometimes.
But we are entitled to our opinion on the subject.
And it depends who we're hearing...Strangers? Not as big of a deal as family.
flan
And I'm entitled to mine.
I would MUCH rather hear strangers than family....
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
Of course, most of the time its private. But hearing people having sex is really not the big deal some of you are making it out to be. It's going to happen sometimes.
But we are entitled to our opinion on the subject.
And it depends who we're hearing...Strangers? Not as big of a deal as family.
flan
And I'm entitled to mine.
I would MUCH rather hear strangers than family....