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And no. I have never taken my frustration out on a service member. The snarkiest I get is asking to talk to a manager.

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Im sorry MM, some of those things sound terrifying. I have never heard someone talking to someone else that way, so it is shocking.


 This.  I won't say I've never been rude.  If the person was rude first and wouldn't work with me then yes, I have been rude.  I have insulted the the COMPANY.  But no, I have never ever ever made a personal attack like that.  So like NAOW it is shocking to me.  I would never threaten to kill, rape, or follow someone home.



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Im sorry MM, some of those things sound terrifying. I have never heard someone talking to someone else that way, so it is shocking.


 This.  I won't say I've never been rude.  If the person was rude first and wouldn't work with me then yes, I have been rude.  I have insulted the the COMPANY.  But no, I have never ever ever made a personal attack like that.  So like NAOW it is shocking to me.  I would never threaten to kill, rape, or follow someone home.

 

 

 Because you are decent people it bothers you!

But honestly, it happened daily. And I am sure that for people as generally loathed as towing companies, it is probably a lot worse. 

I can't even count the number of times I cleaned up piles of sh!t all over the store. We watched the security cameras, grown assed people taking a dump on the floor. Just because they could. 



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And no. I have never taken my frustration out on a service member. The snarkiest I get is asking to talk to a manager.


 The problems occur when you ARE the manager...that's when people lose their minds. When they figure out they aren't getting what they want, they throw a tantrum. 



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Im sorry MM, some of those things sound terrifying. I have never heard someone talking to someone else that way, so it is shocking.


 This.  I won't say I've never been rude.  If the person was rude first and wouldn't work with me then yes, I have been rude.  I have insulted the the COMPANY.  But no, I have never ever ever made a personal attack like that.  So like NAOW it is shocking to me.  I would never threaten to kill, rape, or follow someone home.

 

 

 Because you are decent people it bothers you!

But honestly, it happened daily. And I am sure that for people as generally loathed as towing companies, it is probably a lot worse. 

I can't even count the number of times I cleaned up piles of sh!t all over the store. We watched the security cameras, grown assed people taking a dump on the floor. Just because they could. 


 And to that I would say, two wrongs don't make a right.  People who take a crap on the floor of the store are not garnering my sympathy.  Instead I feel sorry for the store.  Just like in this instance the towing company could have done everything wrong but that doesn't make her behavior right.



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No it doesn't make her behavior right at all. She was totally wrong. I just think the outrage is a bit funny. Most of the people on the internet standing up for the towing truck employee are the same ones who would be b!tching at her if they had the chance. That's all. The irony of it is hysterical to me.



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I worked at an inner-city library for years. It got bad, but nowhere near as bad as what MM encountered.

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I worked at an inner-city library for years. It got bad, but nowhere near as bad as what MM encountered.

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 A lot of what I experienced happened in suburban areas. Typically it was the white mom who stayed at home with the kids who did the worst yelling and screaming. Or else the shoplifters - they think yelling will get them what they want. 



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I worked at an inner-city library for years. It got bad, but nowhere near as bad as what MM encountered.

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 A lot of what I experienced happened in suburban areas. Typically it was the white mom who stayed at home with the kids who did the worst yelling and screaming. Or else the shoplifters - they think yelling will get them what they want. 


I simply don't understand...What kind of "adult" poops in a store?

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Shoot - this was nothing. This woman was out of line. But if I had a video of every time a customer went off on me, and of all the terrible, unkind, things they said to me - I would be an Internet hero. When you work with the public, people get angry and say stuff like this. All the time. It isn't right, but it's part of the job.

I have been called every name in the book. I had a man take my pic with his cell phone and tell me he was going to wait outside the store with a gang of his buddies who would all take turns raping me (I wouldn't return a pair of jeans he wore and didn't have a reciept for). I had a woman show me a knife in her purse and promise to "slit my pretty white face" if I didn't return a pile of stolen merch for her (I didn't). I had a man tell me "I know what you look like. I will wait outside and follow you home and set it on fire while you sleep". Whatever. It isn't right. But I just moved on with my day. People suck in all walks of life.


 While I agree with you one hundred percent that doesn't mean it's justified and we should just shrug it off.  The behavior you mentioned was uncalled for.  Just as hers was.  And I'm in the camp of FWM and NAOW that says this woman was just doing her job.  The one the towing company hired her to do.  Like flan said it's the companies policy.  Attack the company and not the person.


No. She wasn't just doing her job.  The company has ADMITTED she was saying things that were just as offensive and provocative as the reporter was.  



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No it doesn't make her behavior right at all. She was totally wrong. I just think the outrage is a bit funny. Most of the people on the internet standing up for the towing truck employee are the same ones who would be b!tching at her if they had the chance. That's all. The irony of it is hysterical to me.


No.  She wasn't "totally" wrong. She was probably about 50% wrong--or maybe a little more since she likely started it--and the employee was about 50% wrong, maybe a shade under.  



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huskerbb wrote:
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Shoot - this was nothing. This woman was out of line. But if I had a video of every time a customer went off on me, and of all the terrible, unkind, things they said to me - I would be an Internet hero. When you work with the public, people get angry and say stuff like this. All the time. It isn't right, but it's part of the job.

I have been called every name in the book. I had a man take my pic with his cell phone and tell me he was going to wait outside the store with a gang of his buddies who would all take turns raping me (I wouldn't return a pair of jeans he wore and didn't have a reciept for). I had a woman show me a knife in her purse and promise to "slit my pretty white face" if I didn't return a pile of stolen merch for her (I didn't). I had a man tell me "I know what you look like. I will wait outside and follow you home and set it on fire while you sleep". Whatever. It isn't right. But I just moved on with my day. People suck in all walks of life.


 While I agree with you one hundred percent that doesn't mean it's justified and we should just shrug it off.  The behavior you mentioned was uncalled for.  Just as hers was.  And I'm in the camp of FWM and NAOW that says this woman was just doing her job.  The one the towing company hired her to do.  Like flan said it's the companies policy.  Attack the company and not the person.


No. She wasn't just doing her job.  The company has ADMITTED she was saying things that were just as offensive and provocative as the reporter was.  


I had not seen the update, husker.

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www.yahoo.com/tv/s/source-espn-reporter-britt-mchenry-200100450.html

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And no. I have never taken my frustration out on a service member. The snarkiest I get is asking to talk to a manager.


Oh, and a tow company employee is not a "service" member--at least not to the people who they tow.   



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Thanks, I'll check it out.

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flan327 wrote:
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I worked at an inner-city library for years. It got bad, but nowhere near as bad as what MM encountered.

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 A lot of what I experienced happened in suburban areas. Typically it was the white mom who stayed at home with the kids who did the worst yelling and screaming. Or else the shoplifters - they think yelling will get them what they want. 


I simply don't understand...What kind of "adult" poops in a store?

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 The same kind that calls a person the things this reporter did.



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I worked at an inner-city library for years. It got bad, but nowhere near as bad as what MM encountered.

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 A lot of what I experienced happened in suburban areas. Typically it was the white mom who stayed at home with the kids who did the worst yelling and screaming. Or else the shoplifters - they think yelling will get them what they want. 


I simply don't understand...What kind of "adult" poops in a store?

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 The same kind that calls a person the things this reporter did.


What about the things the employee said to the reporter?   



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Even if the towing employee was rude and hateful you can't go wrong by taking the high road. Two wrongs don't make a right. They just make you look as trashy as the other person.

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Even if the towing employee was rude and hateful you can't go wrong by taking the high road. Two wrongs don't make a right. They just make you look as trashy as the other person.


Fine, no disagreement, there--but most posters on here seem to think this is all one-sided.  It's not.  



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Even if the towing employee was rude and hateful you can't go wrong by taking the high road. Two wrongs don't make a right. They just make you look as trashy as the other person.


Fine, no disagreement, there--but most posters on here seem to think this is all one-sided.  It's not.  


According to the information we had at the time.

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And that's why I posted further information--although, even at first, I said there was probably more to it.

You just have to figure that 99.9% of the time I'm going to be right and go from there.

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huskerbb wrote:

And that's why I posted further information--although, even at first, I said there was probably more to it.

You just have to figure that 99.9% of the time I'm going to be right and go from there.


Just kill me now! LOL

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I still stand behind my original statement. There is no reason at all, no matter the situation, to take mean personal pot shots at someone. Walk away, call the manager, and if that doesn't work keep going up the ladder. And yes, if they did something illegally I sure as heck would sue them.

Thing is if this supposed clerk was as nasty as everyone is claiming and the reporter had been nice back she could have ended up in small claims court with a helluva lot of money on her behalf. Using her name recognition and the tape that supposedly shows how horribly she was treated could have swung way in her favor. Now she just looks like poor white trash.

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A lawyer did an interview about how this reporter had berated her. She had some type of forum talking about attractive female reporters and eventually this reporter insulted the lawyer and her appearance.

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A lawyer did an interview about how this reporter had berated her. She had some type of forum talking about attractive female reporters and eventually this reporter insulted the lawyer and her appearance.


 Yeah, I doubt this was the first instance she talked like this.  And everyone will play it off on the "nasty" towing company but I bet we'll see this same reporter in the news in the future for the same thing.  You know what they say about leopards.



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I bet if it was an ugly woman talking to people like that half the people defending her would not have.

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Oh, so if you ARE ugly--you are allowed to BE ugly. Got it.

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I bet if it was an ugly woman talking to people like that half the people defending her would not have.


I haven't seen too many defending her--but I've seen a LOT of people defending the employee, and she apparently gave as good as she got. 

 

 



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DH and I belong to a small bank. Literally two or three tellers and the manager. He's been there way before we got married. I would never dream in all my life of going in and making a huge scene like that because I am an extension of him. IOW's my behavior reflects on him. I don't want people to say "Oh he's married to that loud mouthed bitch." Everyone wants to think they live in a vacuum but you don't. What you say and do affects others.

Our bank has a policy that they black out the balance on the deposit slip if you deposit money in an account that is not yours. I've put money in my kids account and they do it. DH and I have two accounts. He has one in his name and we have a joint account. Most of the tellers know our situation and are fine with it. There was this nasty little pregnant teller that was always talking about how she didn't know who the daddy of her baby was cause she slept around so much. One day I went in and put some money into our joint account. She blacked out the balance. I asked her why she did it. She said that just because I was married and on the account didn't make me special or give me special rights. I thanked her and left. I was pissed. I could have called her a skanky bitch. She is one. I could have called her a lot of things. I was one hundred percent in the right. What I did do was go in the next day and talk to the manager. She was very nice and we know her well. She said this lady had many complaints against her and they were working on getting rid of her.

There is always different ways to handle a situation. With class and with nastiness. And what you do reflects on others.

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I belong to a small bank too. I love it. Everyone is so nice.

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That lady is no longer there!

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DH and I belong to a small bank. Literally two or three tellers and the manager. He's been there way before we got married. I would never dream in all my life of going in and making a huge scene like that because I am an extension of him. IOW's my behavior reflects on him. I don't want people to say "Oh he's married to that loud mouthed bitch." Everyone wants to think they live in a vacuum but you don't. What you say and do affects others.

Our bank has a policy that they black out the balance on the deposit slip if you deposit money in an account that is not yours. I've put money in my kids account and they do it. DH and I have two accounts. He has one in his name and we have a joint account. Most of the tellers know our situation and are fine with it. There was this nasty little pregnant teller that was always talking about how she didn't know who the daddy of her baby was cause she slept around so much. One day I went in and put some money into our joint account. She blacked out the balance. I asked her why she did it. She said that just because I was married and on the account didn't make me special or give me special rights. I thanked her and left. I was pissed. I could have called her a skanky bitch. She is one. I could have called her a lot of things. I was one hundred percent in the right. What I did do was go in the next day and talk to the manager. She was very nice and we know her well. She said this lady had many complaints against her and they were working on getting rid of her.

There is always different ways to handle a situation. With class and with nastiness. And what you do reflects on others.


Again, no disagreement--but you would only hold one person accountable.  Is not that bank teller also accountable for her actions?  What's the difference which side of the counter you are on?   



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That lady is no longer there!


 Where did she go?



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That lady is no longer there!


 Where did she go?


 She got fired.  Eventually karma has a way of getting even.



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I think it's probably harder to give bad service in a smaller establishment.

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It's not like she punched or even assaulted someone. I think this is over-blown and ridiculous. As I wondered - the towing company is not all innocent in this. And I agree with Husker on all his points. This is not a service provider, she was rude herself, and Britt had reason to be ticked off. Not to mention, the whole editing and releasing a tape to the public - yeah, THAT'S classy.



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But, to be fair, no one put a gun to poor Britt's head & forced her to say any of that.

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True. She had a Bitch moment. Who hasn't? And, I wonder if a Man had gone off would anything have happened? Men seem to be allowed displays of anger but women are "bitches". Men accuse of us being "emotional". If we cry, then we are a mess. If we are angry, we are bitches. But, they can scream, shout, bluster, punch their fist through a wall, blah, blah and there is no charge in that regard towards them.

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But, to be fair, no one put a gun to poor Britt's head & forced her to say any of that.

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 Ok.  So?  Again - it's not like she punched or threatened her.  Saying mean things is actually not a crime, and we've all done it.  AND now we know she was provoked.  There is nothing to see here.  She got her car towed by a disreputable company and reacted badly.  Big deal.



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From MSN:

One high level producer tells us, “She’s the worst. Hopefully she’ll be fired soon.”

Another person told us, “[What she did] reflects on all of us at ESPN. She will be fired soon. If not, I’ll be shocked.”

“She came off more than rude in that clip. It seems like she needs some humble pie,” says another ESPN staffer … “[ESPN] can find a million Britt McHenrys to replace her.”

One famous ESPN’er (who also didn’t want to be named) told us, “Put it like this, she’s replaceable.”

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Yes, but women have to be "humble". Men can have their pissy moments and no big deal?

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And, maybe the women who want her to be fired, are actually playing in to the "Destroy the Homecoming Queen" scenario?

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Yes, but women have to be "humble". Men can have their pissy moments and no big deal?


I disagree.

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One high level producer tells us, “She’s the worst. Hopefully she’ll be fired soon.”

Another person told us, “[What she did] reflects on all of us at ESPN. She will be fired soon. If not, I’ll be shocked.”

“She came off more than rude in that clip. It seems like she needs some humble pie,” says another ESPN staffer … “[ESPN] can find a million Britt McHenrys to replace her.”

One famous ESPN’er (who also didn’t want to be named) told us, “Put it like this, she’s replaceable.”

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 So???  That's a private employer issue.  If she's horrible to work with, they need to deal with it.  Obviously, they haven't felt the need to fire her over it before now. 

 

You want to get fired because your co-workers think you are a bitch?  Is that all that matters now? 

 

And THIS has nothing to do with her job.  It's a sad excuse for her to be fired.



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So other employees dont' "like" her? So what? Her employees don't evaluate her job, her boss does.

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So other employees dont' "like" her? So what? Her employees don't evaluate her job, her boss does.


I'm guessing a "high level producer" may be her boss.

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One high level producer tells us, “She’s the worst. Hopefully she’ll be fired soon.”

Another person told us, “[What she did] reflects on all of us at ESPN. She will be fired soon. If not, I’ll be shocked.”

“She came off more than rude in that clip. It seems like she needs some humble pie,” says another ESPN staffer … “[ESPN] can find a million Britt McHenrys to replace her.”

One famous ESPN’er (who also didn’t want to be named) told us, “Put it like this, she’s replaceable.”

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 So???  That's a private employer issue.  If she's horrible to work with, they need to deal with it.  Obviously, they haven't felt the need to fire her over it before now. 

 

You want to get fired because your co-workers think you are a bitch?  Is that all that matters now? 

 

And THIS has nothing to do with her job.  It's a sad excuse for her to be fired.


I'm not sure I agree with her being fired BUT she chose a profession that means she is visible to the public. If she was a clerk at Target, no one would have cared.

And she's young & blonde. Is she a good reporter? I don't know.

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If ESPN does not fire her, they are condoning her behavior, IMHO.

She is such a biotch.

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just Czech wrote:

If ESPN does not fire her, they are condoning her behavior, IMHO.

She is such a biotch.


Why then shouldn't the tow company employee get fired? Why is she not a "biotch" for doing essentially the SAME THING? 



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just Czech wrote:

If ESPN does not fire her, they are condoning her behavior, IMHO.

She is such a biotch.


 DH agrees. She will never live this down & ESPN should cut ties with her.

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