husker, I'm at work and forgot to watch the clip yesterday. What did the tow truck employee say?
flan
They didn't release that. They said that the employee provoked the incident, that the tape was highly edited and showed only one side of the story, and that the employee basically gave as good as she got.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
husker, I'm at work and forgot to watch the clip yesterday. What did the tow truck employee say?
flan
They didn't release that. They said that the employee provoked the incident, that the tape was highly edited and showed only one side of the story, and that the employee basically gave as good as she got.
The question is: Who started the biotch fest? And why did Brit continue to engage? She could have chosen to NOT engage, but she didn't. She has no more of an excuse then the tow company worker. IMHO, they are both biotchs, only one is a public figure, the other is not.
I would really like to see the unedited version of the video.
ETA, okay, I see you said the employee provoked Brit, but she still did not have to continue to engage while being video'd.
-- Edited by just Czech on Sunday 19th of April 2015 12:54:31 PM
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husker, I'm at work and forgot to watch the clip yesterday. What did the tow truck employee say?
flan
They didn't release that. They said that the employee provoked the incident, that the tape was highly edited and showed only one side of the story, and that the employee basically gave as good as she got.
The question is: Who started the biotch fest? And why did Brit continue to engage? She could have chosen to NOT engage, but she didn't. She has no more of an excuse then the tow company worker. IMHO, they are both biotchs, only one is a public figure, the other is not.
I would really like to see the unedited version of the video.
Yes, but women have to be "humble". Men can have their pissy moments and no big deal?
I disagree.
flan
I disagree too. If she had been a man I definitely would NOT have called him a bitch. I would have called him a douche bag, azzhole, jerk, and SOB.
-- Edited by Nobody Just Nobody on Sunday 19th of April 2015 02:44:09 PM
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husker, I'm at work and forgot to watch the clip yesterday. What did the tow truck employee say?
flan
They didn't release that. They said that the employee provoked the incident, that the tape was highly edited and showed only one side of the story, and that the employee basically gave as good as she got.
The question is: Who started the biotch fest? And why did Brit continue to engage? She could have chosen to NOT engage, but she didn't. She has no more of an excuse then the tow company worker. IMHO, they are both biotchs, only one is a public figure, the other is not.
I would really like to see the unedited version of the video.
And THAT makes all the difference.
flan
So, if you aren't in the public eye that gives you license to be an assh0le all the time. Ok.
That's a BS double standard.
I'm not defending what the reporter said--but there are two sides to this. You seem to think that what the employee did was perfectly ok. That's BS. It's no more "ok" than what the reporter did.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
husker, I'm at work and forgot to watch the clip yesterday. What did the tow truck employee say?
flan
They didn't release that. They said that the employee provoked the incident, that the tape was highly edited and showed only one side of the story, and that the employee basically gave as good as she got.
The question is: Who started the biotch fest? And why did Brit continue to engage? She could have chosen to NOT engage, but she didn't. She has no more of an excuse then the tow company worker. IMHO, they are both biotchs, only one is a public figure, the other is not.
I would really like to see the unedited version of the video.
And THAT makes all the difference.
flan
So, if you aren't in the public eye that gives you license to be an assh0le all the time. Ok.
That's a BS double standard.
I'm not defending what the reporter said--but there are two sides to this. You seem to think that what the employee did was perfectly ok. That's BS. It's no more "ok" than what the reporter did.
I am not 100% sure of what the employee did, apparently you are.
They are both wrong, IMHO, BUT, the public figure did NOT need to add fuel to the fire. Since she is so damn educated you know.
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I am not 100% sure of what the employee did, apparently you are.
They are both wrong, IMHO, BUT, the public figure did NOT need to add fuel to the fire. Since she is so damn educated you know.
This. And until the towing company releases the WHOLE tape we can only go on what we have now. I'd like to see the whole tape. No one has shown it yet. And like Czech says, if this woman is so much better than the towing company employee she sure didn't show it.
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husker, I'm at work and forgot to watch the clip yesterday. What did the tow truck employee say?
flan
They didn't release that. They said that the employee provoked the incident, that the tape was highly edited and showed only one side of the story, and that the employee basically gave as good as she got.
The question is: Who started the biotch fest? And why did Brit continue to engage? She could have chosen to NOT engage, but she didn't. She has no more of an excuse then the tow company worker. IMHO, they are both biotchs, only one is a public figure, the other is not.
I would really like to see the unedited version of the video.
And THAT makes all the difference.
flan
So, if you aren't in the public eye that gives you license to be an assh0le all the time. Ok.
That's a BS double standard.
I'm not defending what the reporter said--but there are two sides to this. You seem to think that what the employee did was perfectly ok. That's BS. It's no more "ok" than what the reporter did.
I am not 100% sure of what the employee did, apparently you are.
They are both wrong, IMHO, BUT, the public figure did NOT need to add fuel to the fire. Since she is so damn educated you know.
So the employee SHOULD have added fuel to the fire?
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I am not 100% sure of what the employee did, apparently you are.
They are both wrong, IMHO, BUT, the public figure did NOT need to add fuel to the fire. Since she is so damn educated you know.
This. And until the towing company releases the WHOLE tape we can only go on what we have now. I'd like to see the whole tape. No one has shown it yet. And like Czech says, if this woman is so much better than the towing company employee she sure didn't show it.
No. No one has shown it--so you are only getting one side, yet you are perfectly willing to pass judgment with only 1/2 of the information, or less.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
husker, I'm at work and forgot to watch the clip yesterday. What did the tow truck employee say?
flan
They didn't release that. They said that the employee provoked the incident, that the tape was highly edited and showed only one side of the story, and that the employee basically gave as good as she got.
The question is: Who started the biotch fest? And why did Brit continue to engage? She could have chosen to NOT engage, but she didn't. She has no more of an excuse then the tow company worker. IMHO, they are both biotchs, only one is a public figure, the other is not.
I would really like to see the unedited version of the video.
And THAT makes all the difference.
flan
So, if you aren't in the public eye that gives you license to be an assh0le all the time. Ok.
That's a BS double standard.
I'm not defending what the reporter said--but there are two sides to this. You seem to think that what the employee did was perfectly ok. That's BS. It's no more "ok" than what the reporter did.
I am not 100% sure of what the employee did, apparently you are.
They are both wrong, IMHO, BUT, the public figure did NOT need to add fuel to the fire. Since she is so damn educated you know.
So the employee SHOULD have added fuel to the fire?
I didn't say that. In your mind you must think she should have. How about one or both keeping their traps shut in the first place.
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husker, I'm at work and forgot to watch the clip yesterday. What did the tow truck employee say?
flan
They didn't release that. They said that the employee provoked the incident, that the tape was highly edited and showed only one side of the story, and that the employee basically gave as good as she got.
The question is: Who started the biotch fest? And why did Brit continue to engage? She could have chosen to NOT engage, but she didn't. She has no more of an excuse then the tow company worker. IMHO, they are both biotchs, only one is a public figure, the other is not.
I would really like to see the unedited version of the video.
And THAT makes all the difference.
flan
So, if you aren't in the public eye that gives you license to be an assh0le all the time. Ok.
That's a BS double standard.
I'm not defending what the reporter said--but there are two sides to this. You seem to think that what the employee did was perfectly ok. That's BS. It's no more "ok" than what the reporter did.
I am not 100% sure of what the employee did, apparently you are.
They are both wrong, IMHO, BUT, the public figure did NOT need to add fuel to the fire. Since she is so damn educated you know.
So the employee SHOULD have added fuel to the fire?
I didn't say that. In your mind you must think she should have. How about one or both keeping their traps shut in the first place.
Yeah, they BOTH should have handled this better. They key being BOTH.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I think that, yes, if the towing employing was 'giving as good as she got' then she should be fired, or reprimanded as well. Talking to another person like that is disgusting
Fletcher: [indicating with his hands] Right there!
Motorpool Guy: OH... That was already there.
Fletcher: You - -LIAR! You know what I am going to do about this?
Motorpool Guy: what?
Fletcher: Nothing! Because if I take it to small claims court, it will just drain 8 hours out of my life and you probably won't show up and even if I got the judgment you'd just stiff me anyway; so what I am going to do is piss and moan like an impotent jerk, and then bend over and take it up the tailpipe!
Motorpool Guy: [tossing the keys to Fletcher] You've been here before haven't ya?
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Fletcher: [indicating with his hands] Right there!
Motorpool Guy: OH... That was already there.
Fletcher: You - -LIAR! You know what I am going to do about this?
Motorpool Guy: what?
Fletcher: Nothing! Because if I take it to small claims court, it will just drain 8 hours out of my life and you probably won't show up and even if I got the judgment you'd just stiff me anyway; so what I am going to do is piss and moan like an impotent jerk, and then bend over and take it up the tailpipe!
Motorpool Guy: [tossing the keys to Fletcher] You've been here before haven't ya?
That's actually funny!
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One person spewing garbage does not entitle the other person to do the same, IMHO.
Of course not--but it works BOTH ways.
My question is; who should have been the bigger person?
I don't see how either of them would have a larger responsibility in that arena. If I had to pick, I'd say the employee had the greater responsibility to be the bigger person since that is their job to deal with the "customers"--and most customers at a tow company aren't going to be in a good mood.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I didn't say that. In your mind you must think she should have. How about one or both keeping their traps shut in the first place.
I agree. They both should have kept their mouths shut. And yes, I'm perfectly fine judging on the information I have provided. If someone else can provide more information then I will revisit my decision. Until then my opinion stands. We do this all the time anyway, btw. We judge people constantly by the information we have. Look at all the Prudie letters we talk about. We have only one side and we judge.
Personally, I live by the view that I can't control other people. I can only control myself and how I respond or react to them. I can choose to take the high road or I can choose to lower myself to their standards. Either way I am not in control of their behavior.
I will repeat. I don't care what the employee said. IF she said things that were just as bad, AND they can prove it, it only means that both women acted like poor white trash. It doesn't excuse the reporters behavior.
Let's assume that both women acted like idiots. We're ASSUMING now. If it were me, and it's not, I would fire the tow truck employee. IF her behavior was that bad she doesn't need to work there. And the reporter needs to be fired too. Yes, she does. Just because you deal with a difficult person doesn't give you the right to act like a total azzhole back. But their behavior needs to be dealt with independently. This isn't a case where they are equals. They need to be treated accordingly.
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I didn't say that. In your mind you must think she should have. How about one or both keeping their traps shut in the first place.
I agree. They both should have kept their mouths shut. And yes, I'm perfectly fine judging on the information I have provided. If someone else can provide more information then I will revisit my decision. Until then my opinion stands. We do this all the time anyway, btw. We judge people constantly by the information we have. Look at all the Prudie letters we talk about. We have only one side and we judge.
Personally, I live by the view that I can't control other people. I can only control myself and how I respond or react to them. I can choose to take the high road or I can choose to lower myself to their standards. Either way I am not in control of their behavior.
I will repeat. I don't care what the employee said. IF she said things that were just as bad, AND they can prove it, it only means that both women acted like poor white trash. It doesn't excuse the reporters behavior.
Let's assume that both women acted like idiots. We're ASSUMING now. If it were me, and it's not, I would fire the tow truck employee. IF her behavior was that bad she doesn't need to work there. And the reporter needs to be fired too. Yes, she does. Just because you deal with a difficult person doesn't give you the right to act like a total azzhole back. But their behavior needs to be dealt with independently. This isn't a case where they are equals. They need to be treated accordingly.
But why wouldn't that mantra also apply to the tow company employee? Why do you direct it at only ONE of them here? Does the tow company employee have no mandate to control their actions?
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I didn't say that. In your mind you must think she should have. How about one or both keeping their traps shut in the first place.
I agree. They both should have kept their mouths shut. And yes, I'm perfectly fine judging on the information I have provided. If someone else can provide more information then I will revisit my decision. Until then my opinion stands. We do this all the time anyway, btw. We judge people constantly by the information we have. Look at all the Prudie letters we talk about. We have only one side and we judge.
Personally, I live by the view that I can't control other people. I can only control myself and how I respond or react to them. I can choose to take the high road or I can choose to lower myself to their standards. Either way I am not in control of their behavior.
I will repeat. I don't care what the employee said. IF she said things that were just as bad, AND they can prove it, it only means that both women acted like poor white trash. It doesn't excuse the reporters behavior.
Let's assume that both women acted like idiots. We're ASSUMING now. If it were me, and it's not, I would fire the tow truck employee. IF her behavior was that bad she doesn't need to work there. And the reporter needs to be fired too. Yes, she does. Just because you deal with a difficult person doesn't give you the right to act like a total azzhole back. But their behavior needs to be dealt with independently. This isn't a case where they are equals. They need to be treated accordingly.
Show me where I said it was directed at ONE of the two. What the reporter said has been proven. Show me a video of the tow employee being an azz and I'll say the same thing about HER. I said that I, meaning ME PERSONALLY, am not responsible nor can I control other people's behavior. I choose to take the high road.
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I don't necessarily think that EITHER of them should lose their job. Crap happens. Everybody apologize and move on.
IF, however, we are going to talk about people losing their jobs, there is more of a case to be made for the tow truck employee to lose their job. Their actions were done at a customer WHILE on the job.
Let's say a factory worker goes into Wal-Mart to return something. Whatever happens at the return counter happens and the customer isn't satisfied. They call the Wal-Mart employee a fat b!tch, and the employee fires back that her momma was a wh0re.
Are either "justified" in their response? No.
Is either "understandable"? Maybe the employee's as a retaliation is somewhat understandable.
However, I don't think the company would look at it that way. They want to keep the customer "happy" to the greatest extent possible. That doesn't mean their employees have to stand their and take abuse--but it does mean they don't escalate the situation and they get a manager, or whatever.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I didn't say that. In your mind you must think she should have. How about one or both keeping their traps shut in the first place.
I agree. They both should have kept their mouths shut. And yes, I'm perfectly fine judging on the information I have provided. If someone else can provide more information then I will revisit my decision. Until then my opinion stands. We do this all the time anyway, btw. We judge people constantly by the information we have. Look at all the Prudie letters we talk about. We have only one side and we judge.
Personally, I live by the view that I can't control other people. I can only control myself and how I respond or react to them. I can choose to take the high road or I can choose to lower myself to their standards. Either way I am not in control of their behavior.
I will repeat. I don't care what the employee said. IF she said things that were just as bad, AND they can prove it, it only means that both women acted like poor white trash. It doesn't excuse the reporters behavior.
Let's assume that both women acted like idiots. We're ASSUMING now. If it were me, and it's not, I would fire the tow truck employee. IF her behavior was that bad she doesn't need to work there. And the reporter needs to be fired too. Yes, she does. Just because you deal with a difficult person doesn't give you the right to act like a total azzhole back. But their behavior needs to be dealt with independently. This isn't a case where they are equals. They need to be treated accordingly.
Show me where I said it was directed at ONE of the two. What the reporter said has been proven. Show me a video of the tow employee being an azz and I'll say the same thing about HER. I said that I, meaning ME PERSONALLY, am not responsible nor can I control other people's behavior. I choose to take the high road.
The tow company has not released the entire video--but that doesn't mean they are lying when they say the employee gave as good as she got. They are trying to protect themselves from a lawsuit.
We HAVE that information--you just choose to ignore it because it isn't in the format you like.
-- Edited by huskerbb on Sunday 19th of April 2015 04:24:38 PM
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
lol trying to protect themselves from a lawsuit. Okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. Release then video and I'll give them some credibility.
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I also think the tow company deserves some type of blow back for putting out the tape to begin with, but even more so for editing it in the way that they did.
We don't have that information because the towing company won't release it. I wouldn't have taken the word of the towing company on how bad the reporter acted and I'm not going to just take the word of someone else that the employee acted badly. Release the video.
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I also think the tow company deserves some type of blow back for putting out the tape to begin with, but even more so for editing it in the way that they did.
IF they edited it. And it's their tape. They can release it to anyone. Just like recording someone on your phone.
I say release the whole tape.
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We don't have that information because the towing company won't release it. I wouldn't have taken the word of the towing company on how bad the reporter acted and I'm not going to just take the word of someone else that the employee acted badly. Release the video.
That's BS and wholly unfair.
You are basing your false conclusions 100% on a video that the COMPANY admitted was highly edited. McHenry has NO WAY to make them release the video even though it would be in her interests to do so.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I also think the tow company deserves some type of blow back for putting out the tape to begin with, but even more so for editing it in the way that they did.
The employee did the initial video release, not the company. She shopped it around to several places.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I also think the tow company deserves some type of blow back for putting out the tape to begin with, but even more so for editing it in the way that they did.
IF they edited it. And it's their tape. They can release it to anyone. Just like recording someone on your phone.
I say release the whole tape.
I guess that is true, but if they were going to release it, it was really dishonest to edit it to show only one side.
I also think the tow company deserves some type of blow back for putting out the tape to begin with, but even more so for editing it in the way that they did.
The employee did the initial video release, not the company. She shopped it around to several places.
Oh, Ok. I see. That is another issue. Are employees usually allowed to do what they want with the video surveillance?
I also think the tow company deserves some type of blow back for putting out the tape to begin with, but even more so for editing it in the way that they did.
IF they edited it. And it's their tape. They can release it to anyone. Just like recording someone on your phone.
I say release the whole tape.
I guess that is true, but if they were going to release it, it was really dishonest to edit it to show only one side.
The company didn't do the initial release. It was the employee. They shopped it around to several places in order to get some cash for the video.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I also think the tow company deserves some type of blow back for putting out the tape to begin with, but even more so for editing it in the way that they did.
The employee did the initial video release, not the company. She shopped it around to several places.
Oh, Ok. I see. That is another issue. Are employees usually allowed to do what they want with the video surveillance?
Undoubtedly not, which is why the company is doing what they are doing now.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I also think the tow company deserves some type of blow back for putting out the tape to begin with, but even more so for editing it in the way that they did.
IF they edited it. And it's their tape. They can release it to anyone. Just like recording someone on your phone.
I say release the whole tape.
I guess that is true, but if they were going to release it, it was really dishonest to edit it to show only one side.
IF they edited it. We only have people running around saying they edited it. No proof. And why would they edit it? I'm not even sure what it would do for them. JUST to discredit a reporter? Were they going to blackmail her? I mean what is the point of only showing part of it? They got nothing out of it other than sympathy. And they had to have known that all things come to light eventually. If the employee really did talk the same way to the journalist why isn't the journalist coming out and saying something?
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
I also think the tow company deserves some type of blow back for putting out the tape to begin with, but even more so for editing it in the way that they did.
IF they edited it. And it's their tape. They can release it to anyone. Just like recording someone on your phone.
I say release the whole tape.
I guess that is true, but if they were going to release it, it was really dishonest to edit it to show only one side.
IF they edited it. We only have people running around saying they edited it. No proof. And why would they edit it? I'm not even sure what it would do for them. JUST to discredit a reporter? Were they going to blackmail her? I mean what is the point of only showing part of it? They got nothing out of it other than sympathy. And they had to have known that all things come to light eventually. If the employee really did talk the same way to the journalist why isn't the journalist coming out and saying something?
LOL!!!! The EMPLOYEE edited it. She did it because she was going to sell it and make a profit. It's not nearly as juicy if you put yourself in a bad light rather than a somewhat famous reporter.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.