TOTALLY GEEKED!

WYSIWYG wrote:

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13Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy.

And you only follow the laws of men to the extent they do NOT contradict the laws of God. The bolded are not laws, yet they are God's rules.

-Lawyerlady

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I'm going to assume you highlighted this because this is your point about why you believe that it's o.k. to disrespect people and treat them as less worthy of civil rights, all in God's name.

Last time I checked, gay weddings weren't any more full of "carousing and drunkenness" or "sexual immorality and debauchery" than straight weddings were. Has that changed? Are gay weddings now bacchanalian orgies of homosexual lust fulfillment?

Being able to legally wed, and enjoy the legal protections of marriage, does not contradict the laws of God. I could see your point if this were about a religious wedding. But that's not what the issue is here.

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 Yes, it does. The Bible is very clear that marriage is a covenant between man, woman, and God.

See Genesis 2 and 1 Corinthians 7.

Being able to legally wed, and enjoy the legal protections of marriage, does not contradict the laws of God. I could see your point if this were about a religious wedding. But that's not what the issue is here.
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you're dead wrong--the issue here IS the right of a person ( ANY person, baker, raker, candlestick maker ) to follow THEIR conscience ( whether personally or in business ) and THAT right is PROTECTED and IS one of the founding principles of this nation

regards homosexual relationships, they are " recognized " in 36 states, yes, but did you know that of those 36 only ELEVEN or barely TWENTY PERCENT of the fifty states have had an opportunity for the PEOPLE TO VOTE on the matter ? the rest of the 36 were forced ( via judicial activism ) to accept " recognition "--the main reason homosexuals in the main are terrified of the issue ever reaching a vote from the public--the homosexuals will lose and lose big

burns07 wrote:

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I read the thread title (only the title) to DH yesterday morning. His response: "Huckabee is an idiot."
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he married you, though

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Once again, totally uncalled for.

Can I insult your "lady" now?

flan 

WYSIWYG wrote:

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Yes, it does. The Bible is very clear that marriage is a covenant between man, woman, and God.

See Genesis 2 and 1 Corinthians 7.
-chef

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Had I said that it was sanctioning a religious marriage, I would agree with you. However, I mentioned only "legally wed" and "legal protections". I am not for a second suggesting anyone sanction a religious union between homosexuals if it goes against their beliefs. Just the legal one. God separates legal from religious duties, can't we do so as well?

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God does not divide marriage into religious and legal marriages. 

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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chef wrote:

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WYSIWYG wrote:

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Yes, it does. The Bible is very clear that marriage is a covenant between man, woman, and God.

See Genesis 2 and 1 Corinthians 7.
-chef

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Had I said that it was sanctioning a religious marriage, I would agree with you. However, I mentioned only "legally wed" and "legal protections". I am not for a second suggesting anyone sanction a religious union between homosexuals if it goes against their beliefs. Just the legal one. God separates legal from religious duties, can't we do so as well?

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God does not divide marriage into religious and legal marriages. 

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 Silly chef, I guess you didn't read that chapter in your Bible! 

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Guess not  

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chillepeppa wrote:

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So if one is not religious, is one's marriage invalid???

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In the eyes of God, yes... 

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 And again, if one is not religious, that should mean...?

burns07 wrote:

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the overwhelming majority of humans on this planet recognize marriage as being the union of a man and a woman--not two homosexuals--the major RELIGIONS on this planet recognize marriage as being the union of a man and a woman--a miniscule minority wants to change that definition to somehow validate/legitimize their homosexuality, their " love "--semantics aside, you can call a deer a horse all you want but it will never change the reality for either of them--they are still, and will remain, two distinct things

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What do you call "miniscule"? 

I've read that 10% of humans are gay;

I've also read that it's 3%.

I believe the 10% figure.

However, I'm sure that many do NOT want to get married.

I think it's nobody else's business. JMHO.

ed11563 wrote:

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burns07 wrote:

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the overwhelming majority of humans on this planet recognize marriage as being the union of a man and a woman--not two homosexuals--the major RELIGIONS on this planet recognize marriage as being the union of a man and a woman--a miniscule minority wants to change that definition to somehow validate/legitimize their homosexuality, their " love "--semantics aside, you can call a deer a horse all you want but it will never change the reality for either of them--they are still, and will remain, two distinct things

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What do you call "miniscule"? 

I've read that 10% of humans are gay;

I've also read that it's 3%.

I believe the 10% figure.

 

However, I'm sure that many do NOT want to get married.

 

I think it's nobody else's business. JMHO.

 

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And how many homosexuals are afraid, in 2015, to "come out of the closet?"

flan 

flan327 wrote:

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Love is NOT love? Between consenting ADULTS? What is it then?

flan

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Lust?  Misplaced affection?  Illicit sex?  There are a lot of things that aren't "love".  Is it OK for a mother/son if they are adults?  Father/daughter?  Brother/sis?  Cousins?  Threesomes?  That can all be classified as "love" can't it?   

lilyofcourse wrote:

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I don't think it is invalid.

But God set marriage for a man and a woman.

Sex between two outside of marriage is called a sin.

Sex between two of the same sex is called an abomination.

There is no caveat for same sex marriage.

Once opposite sex couple is married, they are no longer sinning.

But sex between same sex couple is still an abomination.

That is the difference.

They may be legally married, but still an abomination.

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But if the marriage is not blessed by your God, then they are, according to some up-thread, purely co-habitating, thus, blissfully sinning.

chillepeppa wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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I don't think it is invalid.

But God set marriage for a man and a woman.

Sex between two outside of marriage is called a sin.

Sex between two of the same sex is called an abomination.

There is no caveat for same sex marriage.

Once opposite sex couple is married, they are no longer sinning.

But sex between same sex couple is still an abomination.

That is the difference.

They may be legally married, but still an abomination.

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But if the marriage is not blessed by your God, then they are, according to some up-thread, purely co-habitating, thus, blissfully sinning.

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 What matters is what the Bible says. And it says marriage between a man and woman is sanctified and the marriage bed is undefiled. 

But any relation between same sex is an abomination. Nothing changes that.

What does the Bible say about gay marriage / same sex marriage?

Question: "What does the Bible say about gay marriage / same sex marriage?"

Answer:While the Bible does address homosexuality, it does not explicitly mention gay marriage/same-sex marriage. It is clear, however, that the Bible condemns homosexuality as an immoral and unnatural sin.Leviticus 18:22identifies homosexual sex as an abomination, a detestable sin.Romans 1:26-27declares homosexual desires and actions to be shameful, unnatural, lustful, and indecent.First Corinthians 6:9states that homosexuals are unrighteous and will not inherit the kingdom of God. Since both homosexual desires and actions are condemned in the Bible, it is clear that homosexuals “marrying” is not God’s will, and would be, in fact, sinful.

Whenever the Bible mentions marriage, it is between a male and a female. The first mention of marriage,Genesis 2:24, describes it as a man leaving his parents and being united to his wife. In passages that contain instructions regarding marriage, such as1 Corinthians 7:2-16andEphesians 5:23-33, the Bible clearly identifies marriage as being between a man and a woman. Biblically speaking, marriage is the lifetime union of a man and a woman, primarily for the purpose of building a family and providing a stable environment for that family.

The Bible alone, however, does not have to be used to demonstrate this understanding of marriage. The biblical viewpoint of marriage has been the universal understanding of marriage in every human civilization in world history. History argues against gay marriage. Modern secular psychology recognizes that men and women are psychologically and emotionally designed to complement one another. In regard to the family, psychologists contend that a union between a man and woman in which both spouses serve as good gender role models is the best environment in which to raise well-adjusted children. Psychology argues against gay marriage. In nature/physicality, clearly, men and women were designed to “fit” together sexually. With the “natural” purpose of sexual intercourse being procreation, clearly only a sexual relationship between a man and a woman can fulfill this purpose. Nature argues against gay marriage.

So, if the Bible, history, psychology, and nature all argue for marriage being between a man and a woman—why is there such a controversy today? Why are those who are opposed to gay marriage/same-sex marriage labeled as hateful, intolerant bigots, no matter how respectfully the opposition is presented? Why is the gay rights movement so aggressively pushing for gay marriage/same-sex marriage when most people, religious and non-religious, are supportive of—or at least far less opposed to—gay couples having all the same legal rights as married couples with some form of civil union?

The answer, according to the Bible, is that everyone inherently knows that homosexuality is immoral and unnatural, and the only way to suppress this inherent knowledge is by normalizing homosexuality and attacking any and all opposition to it. The best way to normalize homosexuality is by placing gay marriage/same-sex marriage on an equal plane with traditional opposite-gender marriage.Romans 1:18-32illustrates this. The truth is known because God has made it plain. The truth is rejected and replaced with a lie. The lie is then promoted and the truth suppressed and attacked. The vehemence and anger expressed by many in the gay rights movement to any who oppose them is, in fact, an indication that they know their position is indefensible. Trying to overcome a weak position by raising your voice is the oldest trick in the debating book. There is perhaps no more accurate description of the modern gay rights agenda thanRomans 1:31, “they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.”

To give sanction to gay marriage/same-sex marriage would be to give approval to the homosexual lifestyle, which the Bible clearly and consistently condemns as sinful. Christians should stand firmly against the idea of gay marriage/same-sex marriage. Further, there are strong and logical arguments against gay marriage/same-sex marriage from contexts completely separated from the Bible. One does not have to be an evangelical Christian to recognize that marriage is between a man and a woman.

According to the Bible, marriage is ordained by God to be between a man and a woman (Genesis 2:21-24;Matthew 19:4-6). Gay marriage/same-sex marriage is a perversion of the institution of marriage and an offense to the God who created marriage. As Christians, we are not to condone or ignore sin. Rather, we are to share the love of God and the forgiveness of sins that is available to all, including homosexuals, through Jesus Christ. We are to speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15) and contend for truth with “gentleness and respect” (1 Peter 3:15). As Christians, when we make a stand for truth and the result is personal attacks, insults, and persecution, we should remember the words of Jesus: “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you” (John 15:18-19).

Recommended Resources:The Truth About Same-Sex Marriage: 6 Things You Must Know About What's Really at Stake by Erwin LutzerandLogos Bible Software.

Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/gay-marriage.html#ixzz3ZI7g1Lu2