Oh, and fact. I know a couple that was living together and wanted to get married. Their pastor refused to marry them unless they didn't live together for a year. So they did. They now have 3 teenagers and have been married almost 20 years...
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I want to know who believes that, after years of living together, an adult would suddenly stop because Mommy & Daddy don't approve.
flan
The daughter in the OP hasn't been living with her BF for years.
So what? Regardless of the time in involved they aren't going to stop.
Plus, those of you who have been saying that living together is some sort of sin are wrong, anyway. Living with someone is not a sin. You can have a roommate of the opposite sex.
Of course you are going to say that they aren't just roommates. Duh. It's the sex outside of marriage that is the sin. They will be doing that regardless of their respective address.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I want to know who believes that, after years of living together, an adult would suddenly stop because Mommy & Daddy don't approve.
flan
The daughter in the OP hasn't been living with her BF for years.
So what? Regardless of the time in involved they aren't going to stop.
Plus, those of you who have been saying that living together is some sort of sin are wrong, anyway. Living with someone is not a sin. You can have a roommate of the opposite sex.
Of course you are going to say that they aren't just roommates. Duh. It's the sex outside of marriage that is the sin. They will be doing that regardless of their respective address.
And a lot of people would disagree with this. Take Lifeway Christian Resources for example. If you have a roommate of the opposite sex, you will not be hired. And trust me, they know if you are lying or not...
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
I want to know who believes that, after years of living together, an adult would suddenly stop because Mommy & Daddy don't approve.
flan
The daughter in the OP hasn't been living with her BF for years.
So what? Regardless of the time in involved they aren't going to stop.
Plus, those of you who have been saying that living together is some sort of sin are wrong, anyway. Living with someone is not a sin. You can have a roommate of the opposite sex.
Of course you are going to say that they aren't just roommates. Duh. It's the sex outside of marriage that is the sin. They will be doing that regardless of their respective address.
And a lot of people would disagree with this. Take Lifeway Christian Resources for example. If you have a roommate of the opposite sex, you will not be hired. And trust me, they know if you are lying or not...
They can disagree all they want. They are wrong. It's the sex that is the sin, not the address.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
Just like Billy Graham refused to be alone with a woman that wasn't his wife. It's the appearance. I won't be alone with a man besides my husband. I think it's disrespectful...
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
Just like Billy Graham refused to be alone with a woman that wasn't his wife. It's the appearance. I won't be alone with a man besides my husband. I think it's disrespectful...
That is absolutely ludicrous. Can't trust yourself?
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
thanks for posting a bible verse that has nothing to do with anything.
You are wrong. That has everything to do with your "argument". You said co-ed roommates aren't a sin. I think while maybe not a sin, it's definitely inappropriate. Most churches here and most Christian employers agree.
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
Just like Billy Graham refused to be alone with a woman that wasn't his wife. It's the appearance. I won't be alone with a man besides my husband. I think it's disrespectful...
That is absolutely ludicrous. Can't trust yourself?
Nope. I would never cheat on my husband. I would never give the impression of impropriety. It's not unusual. I don't know a whole lot of people that would. Here are work, we NEVER go out with just one man and woman. No one does that. It's improper.
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
Just like Billy Graham refused to be alone with a woman that wasn't his wife. It's the appearance. I won't be alone with a man besides my husband. I think it's disrespectful...
That is absolutely ludicrous. Can't trust yourself?
thanks for posting a bible verse that has nothing to do with anything.
Of course it applies.
You said there was nothing wrong with cohabitation.
But what if that cohabitation causes another to stumble?
You like to claim to be knowledgable of the Bible but you always seem to forget what it says.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
thanks for posting a bible verse that has nothing to do with anything.
You are wrong. That has everything to do with your "argument". You said co-ed roommates aren't a sin. I think while maybe not a sin, it's definitely inappropriate. Most churches here and most Christian employers agree.
Really? I've had many male roommates. They make great roommates. They never borrow my clothes & they do the heavy lifting. Some were like family & we shared communal meals others preferred to do their own thing. I even had one who was my wing man. I never slept with or lusted after any of them. One thing though, I never shared a bathroom with any of them. That would have been awkward to me.
Just like Billy Graham refused to be alone with a woman that wasn't his wife. It's the appearance. I won't be alone with a man besides my husband. I think it's disrespectful...
That is absolutely ludicrous. Can't trust yourself?
Nope. I would never cheat on my husband. I would never give the impression of impropriety. It's not unusual. I don't know a whole lot of people that would. Here are work, we NEVER go out with just one man and woman. No one does that. It's improper.
WTF are you babbling about? How do you even function? That is just mentally deranged. When I got my job, I was interviewed by a woman. I have to travel to some work functions with women. No one thinks any thing of it because it is completely NORMAL.
It doesn't give the appearance of cheating unless you would actually consider doing so. I couldn't respect my wife if I couldn't trust her to be around other men--and vice-versa.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
thanks for posting a bible verse that has nothing to do with anything.
You are wrong. That has everything to do with your "argument". You said co-ed roommates aren't a sin. I think while maybe not a sin, it's definitely inappropriate. Most churches here and most Christian employers agree.
It's not a sin.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
thanks for posting a bible verse that has nothing to do with anything.
You are wrong. That has everything to do with your "argument". You said co-ed roommates aren't a sin. I think while maybe not a sin, it's definitely inappropriate. Most churches here and most Christian employers agree.
Really? I've had many male roommates. They make great roommates. They never borrow my clothes & they do the heavy lifting. Some were like family & we shared communal meals others preferred to do their own thing. I even had one who was my wing man. I never slept with or lusted after any of them. One thing though, I never shared a bathroom with any of them. That would have been awkward to me.
unless you are a rutting hog--it's not a problem. Some of us can actually see members of the opposite gender in terms other than those used in the bedroom.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Heck, some of my closest friends are women. My wife has some good friends who are guys. It's not an issue unless you don't think you can control yourself.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Just like Billy Graham refused to be alone with a woman that wasn't his wife. It's the appearance. I won't be alone with a man besides my husband. I think it's disrespectful...
That is absolutely ludicrous. Can't trust yourself?
Nope. I would never cheat on my husband. I would never give the impression of impropriety. It's not unusual. I don't know a whole lot of people that would. Here are work, we NEVER go out with just one man and woman. No one does that. It's improper.
WTF are you babbling about? How do you even function? That is just mentally deranged. When I got my job, I was interviewed by a woman. I have to travel to some work functions with women. No one thinks any thing of it because it is completely NORMAL.
It doesn't give the appearance of cheating unless you would actually consider doing so. I couldn't respect my wife if I couldn't trust her to be around other men--and vice-versa.
That's your world. And one that (if real, which I have my doubts), is not one that I would want to be in. It has nothing at all to do with trust. It has everything to do with appearance. I trust my pastor, my employer, and Billy Graham's opinion on this matter much more than yours. You're not all you think you are.
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
Some of my co-workers are attractive young ladies--but I certainly don't think of them as potential sex partners. I guess I have the ability to see them as, you know, other human beings, competent co-workers, friends. I thought most people probably had that ability--but maybe not.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Also, I could lose my job should I be found in the company of another man alone. But that's one of the reasons I LOVE my job. We are held to higher standards than you are...
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
Some of my co-workers are attractive young ladies--but I certainly don't think of them as potential sex partners. I guess I have the ability to see them as, you know, other human beings, competent co-workers, friends. I thought most people probably had that ability--but maybe not.
God, you are exceptionally dense today...
It's not about ME. It's about appearances. I would never want to give the appearance of something improper.
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
Just like Billy Graham refused to be alone with a woman that wasn't his wife. It's the appearance. I won't be alone with a man besides my husband. I think it's disrespectful...
That is absolutely ludicrous. Can't trust yourself?
Nope. I would never cheat on my husband. I would never give the impression of impropriety. It's not unusual. I don't know a whole lot of people that would. Here are work, we NEVER go out with just one man and woman. No one does that. It's improper.
WTF are you babbling about? How do you even function? That is just mentally deranged. When I got my job, I was interviewed by a woman. I have to travel to some work functions with women. No one thinks any thing of it because it is completely NORMAL.
It doesn't give the appearance of cheating unless you would actually consider doing so. I couldn't respect my wife if I couldn't trust her to be around other men--and vice-versa.
That's your world. And one that (if real, which I have my doubts), is not one that I would want to be in. It has nothing at all to do with trust. It has everything to do with appearance. I trust my pastor, my employer, and Billy Graham's opinion on this matter much more than yours. You're not all you think you are.
It has everything to do with trust. That is ALL it has to do with. Heck, in most jobs outside of backwater Tennessee, you'd get fired if you couldn't work with someone of the opposite gender.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Just like Billy Graham refused to be alone with a woman that wasn't his wife. It's the appearance. I won't be alone with a man besides my husband. I think it's disrespectful...
Wow.
So at work if you need to have a private conversation with the HR manager who is a man, you would bring someone else into the room? That's ludicrous.
The only situation I would agree with you is in the case of underage children. DH will not be alone behind closed doors with any of his female players. He always has a second adult present.
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Out of all the lies I have told, "just kidding" is my favorite !
Some of my co-workers are attractive young ladies--but I certainly don't think of them as potential sex partners. I guess I have the ability to see them as, you know, other human beings, competent co-workers, friends. I thought most people probably had that ability--but maybe not.
God, you are exceptionally dense today...
It's not about ME. It's about appearances. I would never want to give the appearance of something improper.
Appearance of what? That you can't control yourself?
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Just like Billy Graham refused to be alone with a woman that wasn't his wife. It's the appearance. I won't be alone with a man besides my husband. I think it's disrespectful...
Wow.
So at work if you need to have a private conversation with the HR manager who is a man, you would bring someone else into the room? That's ludicrous.
The only situation I would agree with you is in the case of underage children. DH will not be alone behind closed doors with any of his female players. He always has a second adult present.
We have a male HR director and 2 females. They deal accordingly.
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
It must be a southern bible belt ideal because I have a lot of male marketing reps who have taken me to lunch over the years. No impropriety. Just talking shop & numbers & once that is out of the way talk about family or tv shows nothing deep.
I don't know a single person who would think "wow. That's improper" if you were alone with a man. What's improper is having sex with him, not being alone with him. Two coworkers can have a comfidential work conversation without it being improper.
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Out of all the lies I have told, "just kidding" is my favorite !
Some of my co-workers are attractive young ladies--but I certainly don't think of them as potential sex partners. I guess I have the ability to see them as, you know, other human beings, competent co-workers, friends. I thought most people probably had that ability--but maybe not.
God, you are exceptionally dense today...
It's not about ME. It's about appearances. I would never want to give the appearance of something improper.
Appearance of what? That you can't control yourself?
If you are that stupid, there is no explaining. Everyone else at least understands what I'm saying, even if they don't agree with me. And you used to be a teacher. LOL!
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
Just like Billy Graham refused to be alone with a woman that wasn't his wife. It's the appearance. I won't be alone with a man besides my husband. I think it's disrespectful...
Wow.
So at work if you need to have a private conversation with the HR manager who is a man, you would bring someone else into the room? That's ludicrous.
The only situation I would agree with you is in the case of underage children. DH will not be alone behind closed doors with any of his female players. He always has a second adult present.
We have a male HR director and 2 females. They deal accordingly.
What if the other 2 are out sick and he is the only one there the day you have a serious HR problem?
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Out of all the lies I have told, "just kidding" is my favorite !
It must be a southern bible belt ideal because I have a lot of male marketing reps who have taken me to lunch over the years. No impropriety. Just talking shop & numbers & once that is out of the way talk about family or tv shows nothing deep.
That's the way it is in the real world.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I don't know a single person who would think "wow. That's improper" if you were alone with a man. What's improper is having sex with him, not being alone with him. Two coworkers can have a comfidential work conversation without it being improper.
It's a Christian environment. All of the Christian companies have the same policy. Nashville is the Christian company capital of the world. We have over 100 Christian employers here. It's just they way it is...
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
Some of my co-workers are attractive young ladies--but I certainly don't think of them as potential sex partners. I guess I have the ability to see them as, you know, other human beings, competent co-workers, friends. I thought most people probably had that ability--but maybe not.
God, you are exceptionally dense today...
It's not about ME. It's about appearances. I would never want to give the appearance of something improper.
Appearance of what? That you can't control yourself?
If you are that stupid, there is no explaining. Everyone else at least understands what I'm saying, even if they don't agree with me. And you used to be a teacher. LOL!
I'm not the one that can't be trusted with someone of the opposite sex.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Just like Billy Graham refused to be alone with a woman that wasn't his wife. It's the appearance. I won't be alone with a man besides my husband. I think it's disrespectful...
Wow.
So at work if you need to have a private conversation with the HR manager who is a man, you would bring someone else into the room? That's ludicrous.
The only situation I would agree with you is in the case of underage children. DH will not be alone behind closed doors with any of his female players. He always has a second adult present.
We have a male HR director and 2 females. They deal accordingly.
What if the other 2 are out sick and he is the only one there the day you have a serious HR problem?
I don't know, it's never come up that I'm aware of...
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
I don't know a single person who would think "wow. That's improper" if you were alone with a man. What's improper is having sex with him, not being alone with him. Two coworkers can have a comfidential work conversation without it being improper.
It's a Christian environment. All of the Christian companies have the same policy. Nashville is the Christian company capital of the world. We have over 100 Christian employers here. It's just they way it is...
Not all Christian companies go by such non-Biblical nonsense.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I don't know a single person who would think "wow. That's improper" if you were alone with a man. What's improper is having sex with him, not being alone with him. Two coworkers can have a comfidential work conversation without it being improper.
It's a Christian environment. All of the Christian companies have the same policy. Nashville is the Christian company capital of the world. We have over 100 Christian employers here. It's just they way it is...
Not all Christian companies go by such non-Biblical nonsense.
Well, the ones here do. I deal with many of them on a daily basis. It would never happen.
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
I don't know a single person who would think "wow. That's improper" if you were alone with a man. What's improper is having sex with him, not being alone with him. Two coworkers can have a comfidential work conversation without it being improper.
It's a Christian environment. All of the Christian companies have the same policy. Nashville is the Christian company capital of the world. We have over 100 Christian employers here. It's just they way it is...
This must be difficult at times Ohfour but I for one think it's very honorable. People don't like it when things are not as easy as they think it should be. I'm not sure where all the derision is coming from. It's not like you're asking anyone here to do this. I'm kind of impressed.
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