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Naked Final Exam at UC San Diego Sparks Mom’s Outrage

 
 

 

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by Joel B. Pollak10 May 20151092

 
 
Mother Outraged Daughter Asked To Perform Naked
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Arriving naked at a final exam is one of the most common nightmares for students, according to Psychology Today. At the University of California San Diego, however, the naked final exam is a requirement for a class in the visual arts department.

Students are required to perform “a gesture that traces, outlines or speaks about your ‘erotic self(s),'” according to the course syllabus. In the performance, all of the students are naked, along with the professor, Roberto Dominguez, who has taught the class for 11 years.

“It’s the standard canvas for performance art and body art,” Dominguez told local ABC News affiliate KGTV. “It is all very controlled…If they are uncomfortable with this gesture, they should not take the class.” He was defending the class after one mother spoke out, claiming the requirement was not clear and was a “perversion.”

According to the UCSD Visual Arts department website, the course is a prerequisite for a verbal performance art class. Fully 95% of students in the class receive a grade of “A,” according to the college course ratings website koofers.com.

Domniguez’s biography on the department website lists a series of political efforts, including a government-funded project called the “Transborder Immigrant Tool,” in which he handed out cell phones to prospective illegal immigrants with instructions about how to cross the U.S.-Mexico border.

The goal of the project, which was funded by U.S. government grants and UCSD, and which was subsequently investigated by Congress, was to use poetry to “dissolve” the border.

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/05/10/naked-final-exam-at-uc-san-diego-sparks-moms-outrage/

 



-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Monday 11th of May 2015 11:33:42 AM

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Ok, you send your kid to college with the fruits and nuts--to be taught by fruits and nuts--and they you are surprised when they want them to do fruity and nutty stuff?

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I think this 'mother' needs to let her kid live life without her hovering.

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I don't remember taking a class here we did not go over the syllabus for basically the hole first class.
If the students can't do it, they should not take the class. Not a big deal .

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That sounds like a Mom the really needs to let her Daughter grow up. I would say the Daughter needs to "put on her big girl panties" and deal with the situation, but in this case I don't think that would work. ;)

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Ha! I see what you did there!

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It's art school. Nudity is everywhere.

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UC of San Diego.

Enough said, IMHO.

I give UT credit, with being honest.

When I took Mere on college visits, there were 3 on the list.

Texas A&M, The University of Texas, Austin, And Baylor University, in Waco.

(Baylor, only made the cut for a visit, because they had offered Meredith a $40,000 scholarship, at 10K, per year. Had she decided to go there. Nope. No way, no how. furious)

So, now it was down to 2 state schools. The cost would have been about the same. Within a couple of hundred dollars.

(Oh, and at this point, Ohio State, threw their hat into the ring! Come to The Ohio State University....we want diversity! We'll offer you instate tuition! Ummm.....nope. Too far from home. Mere didn't even finish the reams of paperwork, to go for that one.)no

We went to College Station first. What a good experience!

They really do say "Howdy", to anyone they meet on the sidewalk.

And, when I was studying my map, trying to figure out which way we should go, one of the Corp of Cadet boys stopped.

He said, "Ma'am, can I help you?"

I said, "Yes sir, can you point us in the direction of Rudder Hall? My daughter and I, have a campus tour, in 30 minutes."

He said, "Ma'am, follow me, I'll take you to Rudder Hall. I have an hour, before my next class."

And, God Bless him. He did!

And when we walked in the door, and we got close to where we needed to be, he spotted one of his friends in the Corp. He asked her, if she had a couple of minutes, to take us to the meeting place.

She said, she would be happy to help.smile

When Texas A&M gets voted, the friendliest campus in the United States. It's true. They earn it!smile

Our next stop, was Austin. The University of Texas, or, TU, as graduates from A&M like to call them.wink

We did the campus tour.

No one offered a bit of help, when I was looking at my map.

And, one of the Dad's on the tour, asked a very good question. (I wish I had thought of it. I didn't. But, thank goodness, he did!)smile

He asked the young man, leading the tour, "Is there any reason why, you wouldn't send your child, to the University of Texas?"

And, our tour guide said, "Well, if you are from a conservative Christian Family, you might not fit in, very well. This is a very liberal college. If you are from the Fort Worth area, (and yes, he singled out Fort Worth), you probably won't be very happy here."

I thanked him for his honesty, even though, I hadn't asked the question.

Thank goodness, Mere picked A&M.

Baylor would have been a nightmare. One of her teachers in High School, warned her, not to go there.

Austin, would not have been a good fit.

And, Ohio State, was just too far away.

Pay attention, when picking out a school. Don't go to liberal land, if you are conservative. And, vise versa.

JMHO.smile

 

 

 



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Bonny22Pye wrote:

It's art school. Nudity is everywhere.

Performing erotic "gestures" is not... 



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When Texas A&M gets voted, the friendliest campus in the United States. It's true. They earn it!
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agree with A&M reputation--did a couple of years at UT and then USC so believe me, have seen the liberal campus live and up close

regards art school--yes, there is a lot of nudity ( " life drawing " class, for example )--part of the course

in this specific case, am sort of unclear on the " performing erotic gestures " purpose in the course--still, if it was specifically referenced in the course syllabus as a requirement then so be it


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burns07 wrote:


When Texas A&M gets voted, the friendliest campus in the United States. It's true. They earn it!
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agree with A&M reputation--did a couple of years at UT and then USC so believe me, have seen the liberal campus live and up close

regards art school--yes, there is a lot of nudity ( " life drawing " class, for example )--part of the course

in this specific case, am sort of unclear on the " performing erotic gestures " purpose in the course--still, if it was specifically referenced in the course syllabus as a requirement then so be it

The problem I have is that the class is required for a visual arts degree.  I don't have a problem with the class IF it is explained in the syllabus (as I assume it was), but to make it compulsory is not right.  



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And of course the Prof gets naked too. Uh huh.

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Ohfour wrote:
burns07 wrote:


When Texas A&M gets voted, the friendliest campus in the United States. It's true. They earn it!
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agree with A&M reputation--did a couple of years at UT and then USC so believe me, have seen the liberal campus live and up close

regards art school--yes, there is a lot of nudity ( " life drawing " class, for example )--part of the course

in this specific case, am sort of unclear on the " performing erotic gestures " purpose in the course--still, if it was specifically referenced in the course syllabus as a requirement then so be it

The problem I have is that the class is required for a visual arts degree.  I don't have a problem with the class IF it is explained in the syllabus (as I assume it was), but to make it compulsory is not right.  

And it's not good enough to put the nudity requirement in the syllabus. You don't get the syllabus when you register for a class. You get it the first day of class.  At least that's the way it was when I was in college.If this requirement exists, it should be stated in the materials provided when students are registering, so it will be very clear ahead of time.



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Blankie! You are needed at the art school!

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Blankie! You are needed at the art school!

 Okay, I'll go straighten them out.

I took two courses in life drawing in college with nude models. That's very normal.

Students being required to be naked is not, IMO.



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Blankie wrote:
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When Texas A&M gets voted, the friendliest campus in the United States. It's true. They earn it!
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agree with A&M reputation--did a couple of years at UT and then USC so believe me, have seen the liberal campus live and up close

regards art school--yes, there is a lot of nudity ( " life drawing " class, for example )--part of the course

in this specific case, am sort of unclear on the " performing erotic gestures " purpose in the course--still, if it was specifically referenced in the course syllabus as a requirement then so be it

The problem I have is that the class is required for a visual arts degree.  I don't have a problem with the class IF it is explained in the syllabus (as I assume it was), but to make it compulsory is not right.  

And it's not good enough to put the nudity requirement in the syllabus. You don't get the syllabus when you register for a class. You get it the first day of class.  At least that's the way it was when I was in college.If this requirement exists, it should be stated in the materials provided when students are registering, so it will be very clear ahead of time.

 That's the way it still is.  I have no problem with students in art class drawing a nude model.  That's no problem at all.  I mean, there are people out there who pose professionally for this kind of thing.  But I see no reason why the students should be getting naked.  And yes, it should be spelled out before they even register.  If, however, it stated in the syllabus that students could VOLUNTEER to pose as nude models I'd be okay with that.  Just not everyone feels comfortable enough in their own body to be naked in a room full of people.  I know I don't.  And just because someone doesn't want to be naked in a room full of people doesn't mean they have less art talent than someone else.  The only thing I see that is really extremely objectionable to me is what ohfour said.  This class is required to take the next class.  That's kind of forcing students into doing something they don't want in order to get their degree.



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I think they could easily do something like offer extra credit to a student who would pose naked.

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Blankie wrote:
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 Okay, I'll go straighten them out.

I took two courses in life drawing in college with nude models. That's very normal.

Students being required to be naked is not, IMO.

 I was an art minor.  Keep moving.  Nothing there.  Friends of the teachers would come in.  Focused on my art.  Not the model.

 

Have we ever laughed?  My poor sister had to take a college art class.  Gave me all the work but couldn't draw a straight line.    I even snuck in the studio at night.  I got a freaking B!  Why?  The teacher knew she wasn't creating it but couldn't figure out who did it.  I still scream, 'A B!'  and we laugh away.



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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Blankie wrote:
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When Texas A&M gets voted, the friendliest campus in the United States. It's true. They earn it!
_____________________________________________________________________________

agree with A&M reputation--did a couple of years at UT and then USC so believe me, have seen the liberal campus live and up close

regards art school--yes, there is a lot of nudity ( " life drawing " class, for example )--part of the course

in this specific case, am sort of unclear on the " performing erotic gestures " purpose in the course--still, if it was specifically referenced in the course syllabus as a requirement then so be it

The problem I have is that the class is required for a visual arts degree.  I don't have a problem with the class IF it is explained in the syllabus (as I assume it was), but to make it compulsory is not right.  

And it's not good enough to put the nudity requirement in the syllabus. You don't get the syllabus when you register for a class. You get it the first day of class.  At least that's the way it was when I was in college.If this requirement exists, it should be stated in the materials provided when students are registering, so it will be very clear ahead of time.

 That's the way it still is.  I have no problem with students in art class drawing a nude model.  That's no problem at all.  I mean, there are people out there who pose professionally for this kind of thing.  But I see no reason why the students should be getting naked.  And yes, it should be spelled out before they even register.  If, however, it stated in the syllabus that students could VOLUNTEER to pose as nude models I'd be okay with that.  Just not everyone feels comfortable enough in their own body to be naked in a room full of people.  I know I don't.  And just because someone doesn't want to be naked in a room full of people doesn't mean they have less art talent than someone else.  The only thing I see that is really extremely objectionable to me is what ohfour said.  This class is required to take the next class.  That's kind of forcing students into doing something they don't want in order to get their degree.

 It's an elective course. They don't have to take it if they have a problem with nudity.



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No its not. I order to get a visual arts degree, it is a requirement...

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According to the UCSD Visual Arts department website, the course is a prerequisite for a verbal performance art class

Sorry, verbal, not visual...

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
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When Texas A&M gets voted, the friendliest campus in the United States. It's true. They earn it!
_____________________________________________________________________________

agree with A&M reputation--did a couple of years at UT and then USC so believe me, have seen the liberal campus live and up close

regards art school--yes, there is a lot of nudity ( " life drawing " class, for example )--part of the course

in this specific case, am sort of unclear on the " performing erotic gestures " purpose in the course--still, if it was specifically referenced in the course syllabus as a requirement then so be it

The problem I have is that the class is required for a visual arts degree.  I don't have a problem with the class IF it is explained in the syllabus (as I assume it was), but to make it compulsory is not right.  

And it's not good enough to put the nudity requirement in the syllabus. You don't get the syllabus when you register for a class. You get it the first day of class.  At least that's the way it was when I was in college.If this requirement exists, it should be stated in the materials provided when students are registering, so it will be very clear ahead of time.

 That's the way it still is.  I have no problem with students in art class drawing a nude model.  That's no problem at all.  I mean, there are people out there who pose professionally for this kind of thing.  But I see no reason why the students should be getting naked.  And yes, it should be spelled out before they even register.  If, however, it stated in the syllabus that students could VOLUNTEER to pose as nude models I'd be okay with that.  Just not everyone feels comfortable enough in their own body to be naked in a room full of people.  I know I don't.  And just because someone doesn't want to be naked in a room full of people doesn't mean they have less art talent than someone else.  The only thing I see that is really extremely objectionable to me is what ohfour said.  This class is required to take the next class.  That's kind of forcing students into doing something they don't want in order to get their degree.

 The class 104A. Performing the Self  is required to take another 104BN. Verbal Performance but I do not see the second class required anywhere else.

 

This does not seem to be a class to draw a naked model, it is performance art classes.



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No its not. I order to get a visual arts degree, it is a requirement...

 No, its a pre-requisite for a another class.  You can still get a visual arts degree and avoid that class.

 

According to the UCSD Visual Arts department website, the course is a prerequisite for a verbal performance art class.



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Why does the Visual Arts department have a Verbal Performance Art Class?


Also, I wonder if the daughter even cared, it was the mother that complained.



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It might be an interesting prank to pull the fire alarm while this nude final exam is in session.



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From the local news:

 

The Professor says being nude is required, the Chair of the department says it is not>

SAN DIEGO - A UC San Diego professor is reportedly requiring that his students take their final exam for a visual arts class completely in the nude.

Associate Professor Ricardo Dominguez has been teaching Visual Arts 104A: Performing the Self for 11 years.

"The class that focuses on the history of body art and performance art in relation to the question of the self or subjectivity," Dominguez told 10News by phone Friday.

A mother of a woman in his class claims that her daughter was forced to perform nude for her final in the class, or risk getting a failing grade.

RELATED: UCSD officials defend visual arts class

"It bothers me, I'm not sending her to school for this," said the woman by phone, who asked 10News not to reveal her name.

"To blanket say you must be naked in order to pass my class… It makes me sick to my stomach.”

Dominguez confirmed that students indeed have to be nude to pass the final.

"At the very end of the class, we've done several gestures, they have to nude gesture. The prompt is to speak about or do a gesture or create an installation that says, 'what is more you than you are.'"

He said that 20 students strip down, including him. He calls it a performance of self, in a dark room lit only by candlelight.

"It's a standard canvas for performance art and body art," Dominguez said.

“It is very all controlled," he added.

Dominguez said that students know what to expect from the first day of class.

"If they are uncomfortable with this gesture they should not take the class," Dominguez said bluntly.

The student’s mother countered that this was not true.

“Nothing was ever explained, nothing was ever stipulated prior to Thursday," she said.

In Dominguez’s 11 years teaching the class, he says he has never received a complaint.

The Chair of the Visual Arts Department, Dr. Jordan Crandall, provided 10News the following statement Monday. In it he states that the class is not a requirement for graduation and that students are not required to be nude. The statement reads:


“The concerns of our students are our department's first priority, and I’d like to offer some contextual information that will help answer questions regarding the pedagogy of VIS 104A.

“Removing your clothes is not required in this class. The course is not required for graduation.

“VIS 104A is an upper division class that Professor Dominguez has taught for 11 years. It has a number of prompts for short performances called “gestures.” These include "Your Life: With 3 Objects and 3 Sounds" and "Confessional Self," among others. Students are graded on the "Nude/Naked Self" gesture just like all the other gestures. Students are aware from the start of the class that it is a requirement, and that they can do the gesture in any number of ways without actually having to remove their clothes. Dominguez explains this – as does our advising team if concerns are raised with them. There are many ways to perform nudity or nakedness, summoning art history conventions of the nude or laying bare of one's "traumatic" or most fragile and vulnerable self. One can "be" nude while being covered.

“There are many comments from former students that are visible online. These comments clarify the matter quite directly. It is important to listen to students who have actually taken the class. Again, the concerns of our students are our department's first priority.”



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If he really just wants to see naked students, he should start going to fraternity parties. wink



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"Dominguez said that students know what to expect from the first day of class.

"If they are uncomfortable with this gesture they should not take the class," Dominguez said bluntly. "

Telling them the first day of class is not soon enough. It should be explicitly stated in the course description materials students use when they are registering for the class, BEFORE it starts. Then they will know enough not to choose the class if they don't want to be naked. It's a pain to find this out the first day, then have to withdraw and choose another class.

And that's so much baloney that the chairman of the department says the nudity is not required, but the professor says it is. How about they get their act together?

 



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So, let me see if I'm understanding this. It's a class for VISUAL arts? Meaning like acting but basically nudeness? What on earth do you do with a major in nude performance art? And no, I don't really want an answer to that.

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So, let me see if I'm understanding this. It's a class for VISUAL arts? Meaning like acting but basically nudeness? What on earth do you do with a major in nude performance art? And no, I don't really want an answer to that.

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So, let me see if I'm understanding this. It's a class for VISUAL arts? Meaning like acting but basically nudeness? What on earth do you do with a major in nude performance art? And no, I don't really want an answer to that.

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   I was thinking the same thing.  My first thought was "You need a degree for that now?"



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Maybe the professor is a porn producer, and he uses this class to recruit new talent.



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Maybe the professor is a porn producer, and he uses this class to recruit new talent.

 Entirely possible.  I would probably be upset if I were the mother paying for this education for my daughter.



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Maybe the professor is a porn producer, and he uses this class to recruit new talent.

 Entirely possible.  I would probably be upset if I were the mother paying for this education for my daughter.

 I would also. I think I'd tell her to pay for this class herself.



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Maybe the professor is a porn producer, and he uses this class to recruit new talent.

 Entirely possible.  I would probably be upset if I were the mother paying for this education for my daughter.

 I would also. I think I'd tell her to pay for this class herself.

 Again, I have no issue with it if this is the kind of thing this class is for.  But there's no way in hell I'd be paying for my daughter to learn to become an "erotic artist".  If she wants to become a hooker or a porn star she can pay for the degree herself.  Hell, maybe she could flat back her way through college to pay for her tuition.

Yes, that was sarcasm.  I would not be happy if my daughter chose this.



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You wouldn't be happy, but would you blame the university for your daughters bad choice? Or her inability to read a syllabus? Or the fact that she was too hung over to attend the first day of class and missed the heads up?

Also, this is an upper level class; students have been around a while. They know what classes are about - there are always stories about stuff like this. Daughter was likely into it.

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You wouldn't be happy, but would you blame the university for your daughters bad choice? Or her inability to read a syllabus? Or the fact that she was too hung over to attend the first day of class and missed the heads up?

Also, this is an upper level class; students have been around a while. They know what classes are about - there are always stories about stuff like this. Daughter was likely into it.

 Show me where I would blame the university?  I thought we were all talking about a drawing class.  Like as in drawing nudes.  I would have no problem with my daughter painting nude photos.  Then someone pointed out that this class is not about nude artwork but about nude acting.  Now if she's acting in the nude yes I have a problem.  And not with the college.  I would be angry at my daughter and she would hear about it.



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I wish we knew if this was the only prereq that would fit the bill, or if there are a bunch, and this is the one she chose.
I find it interesting that mom is the one complaining, not daughter.

Sounds to me like mom needs to butt out.

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You wouldn't be happy, but would you blame the university for your daughters bad choice? Or her inability to read a syllabus? Or the fact that she was too hung over to attend the first day of class and missed the heads up?

Also, this is an upper level class; students have been around a while. They know what classes are about - there are always stories about stuff like this. Daughter was likely into it.

 Show me where I would blame the university?  I thought we were all talking about a drawing class.  Like as in drawing nudes.  I would have no problem with my daughter painting nude photos.  Then someone pointed out that this class is not about nude artwork but about nude acting.  Now if she's acting in the nude yes I have a problem.  And not with the college.  I would be angry at my daughter and she would hear about it.

 Not you!  I was saying that you wouldn't make a stink at the University about your daughters stupid choice.  Unlike the mom in the OP.



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You wouldn't be happy, but would you blame the university for your daughters bad choice? Or her inability to read a syllabus? Or the fact that she was too hung over to attend the first day of class and missed the heads up?

Also, this is an upper level class; students have been around a while. They know what classes are about - there are always stories about stuff like this. Daughter was likely into it.

 Show me where I would blame the university?  I thought we were all talking about a drawing class.  Like as in drawing nudes.  I would have no problem with my daughter painting nude photos.  Then someone pointed out that this class is not about nude artwork but about nude acting.  Now if she's acting in the nude yes I have a problem.  And not with the college.  I would be angry at my daughter and she would hear about it.

 Not you!  I was saying that you wouldn't make a stink at the University about your daughters stupid choice.  Unlike the mom in the OP.

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I wish we knew if this was the only prereq that would fit the bill, or if there are a bunch, and this is the one she chose.
I find it interesting that mom is the one complaining, not daughter.
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You wouldn't be happy, but would you blame the university for your daughters bad choice? Or her inability to read a syllabus? Or the fact that she was too hung over to attend the first day of class and missed the heads up?

Also, this is an upper level class; students have been around a while. They know what classes are about - there are always stories about stuff like this. Daughter was likely into it.

 Show me where I would blame the university?  I thought we were all talking about a drawing class.  Like as in drawing nudes.  I would have no problem with my daughter painting nude photos.  Then someone pointed out that this class is not about nude artwork but about nude acting.  Now if she's acting in the nude yes I have a problem.  And not with the college.  I would be angry at my daughter and she would hear about it.

 Not you!  I was saying that you wouldn't make a stink at the University about your daughters stupid choice.  Unlike the mom in the OP.

 Oops.  Sorry!



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As far as I could tell only one class had this one as a present req. No classes had the second as a present req. So unless you were going to take the second you do not need this one.

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Tignanello wrote:

 Oops.  Sorry!

 biggrin  At least I can admit when I'm wrong.



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 Oops.  Sorry!

 biggrin  At least I can admit when I'm wrong.

 You're right about that!  

 



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agree with A&M reputation--did a couple of years at UT and then USC so believe me, have seen the liberal campus live and up close

regards art school--yes, there is a lot of nudity ( " life drawing " class, for example )--part of the course

in this specific case, am sort of unclear on the " performing erotic gestures " purpose in the course--still, if it was specifically referenced in the course syllabus as a requirement then so be it

The problem I have is that the class is required for a visual arts degree.  I don't have a problem with the class IF it is explained in the syllabus (as I assume it was), but to make it compulsory is not right.  

And it's not good enough to put the nudity requirement in the syllabus. You don't get the syllabus when you register for a class. You get it the first day of class.  At least that's the way it was when I was in college.If this requirement exists, it should be stated in the materials provided when students are registering, so it will be very clear ahead of time.

 That's the way it still is.  I have no problem with students in art class drawing a nude model.  That's no problem at all.  I mean, there are people out there who pose professionally for this kind of thing.  But I see no reason why the students should be getting naked.  And yes, it should be spelled out before they even register.  If, however, it stated in the syllabus that students could VOLUNTEER to pose as nude models I'd be okay with that.  Just not everyone feels comfortable enough in their own body to be naked in a room full of people.  I know I don't.  And just because someone doesn't want to be naked in a room full of people doesn't mean they have less art talent than someone else.  The only thing I see that is really extremely objectionable to me is what ohfour said.  This class is required to take the next class.  That's kind of forcing students into doing something they don't want in order to get their degree.

 It's an elective course. They don't have to take it if they have a problem with nudity.

 It's a prerequisite to a VERBAL arts course.  You can't take the other course if you don't take this one.  Therefore, not truly elective.



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And no college class or ANY class for that matter should require students to sit naked in a class with their naked professor. Just EWWWWW.

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And no college class or ANY class for that matter should require students to sit naked in a class with their naked professor. Just EWWWWW.

A thousand times, this!

Hell no!no 



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