TOTALLY GEEKED!

cadiver wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Bonny22Pye wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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Blankie wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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burns07 wrote:

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When Texas A&M gets voted, the friendliest campus in the United States. It's true. They earn it!
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agree with A&M reputation--did a couple of years at UT and then USC so believe me, have seen the liberal campus live and up close

regards art school--yes, there is a lot of nudity ( " life drawing " class, for example )--part of the course

in this specific case, am sort of unclear on the " performing erotic gestures " purpose in the course--still, if it was specifically referenced in the course syllabus as a requirement then so be it

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The problem I have is that the class is required for a visual arts degree.  I don't have a problem with the class IF it is explained in the syllabus (as I assume it was), but to make it compulsory is not right.  

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And it's not good enough to put the nudity requirement in the syllabus. You don't get the syllabus when you register for a class. You get it the first day of class.  At least that's the way it was when I was in college.If this requirement exists, it should be stated in the materials provided when students are registering, so it will be very clear ahead of time.

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 That's the way it still is.  I have no problem with students in art class drawing a nude model.  That's no problem at all.  I mean, there are people out there who pose professionally for this kind of thing.  But I see no reason why the students should be getting naked.  And yes, it should be spelled out before they even register.  If, however, it stated in the syllabus that students could VOLUNTEER to pose as nude models I'd be okay with that.  Just not everyone feels comfortable enough in their own body to be naked in a room full of people.  I know I don't.  And just because someone doesn't want to be naked in a room full of people doesn't mean they have less art talent than someone else.  The only thing I see that is really extremely objectionable to me is what ohfour said.  This class is required to take the next class.  That's kind of forcing students into doing something they don't want in order to get their degree.

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 It's an elective course. They don't have to take it if they have a problem with nudity.

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 It's a prerequisite to a VERBAL arts course.  You can't take the other course if you don't take this one.  Therefore, not truly elective.

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Its elective that you do not to take either class.

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 You don't have to take either of those classes to graduate in that program.  They are elective courses.  There is a lot of nudity in art school.  

Bonny22Pye wrote:

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cadiver wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Bonny22Pye wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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Blankie wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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burns07 wrote:

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When Texas A&M gets voted, the friendliest campus in the United States. It's true. They earn it!
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agree with A&M reputation--did a couple of years at UT and then USC so believe me, have seen the liberal campus live and up close

regards art school--yes, there is a lot of nudity ( " life drawing " class, for example )--part of the course

in this specific case, am sort of unclear on the " performing erotic gestures " purpose in the course--still, if it was specifically referenced in the course syllabus as a requirement then so be it

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The problem I have is that the class is required for a visual arts degree.  I don't have a problem with the class IF it is explained in the syllabus (as I assume it was), but to make it compulsory is not right.  

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And it's not good enough to put the nudity requirement in the syllabus. You don't get the syllabus when you register for a class. You get it the first day of class.  At least that's the way it was when I was in college.If this requirement exists, it should be stated in the materials provided when students are registering, so it will be very clear ahead of time.

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 That's the way it still is.  I have no problem with students in art class drawing a nude model.  That's no problem at all.  I mean, there are people out there who pose professionally for this kind of thing.  But I see no reason why the students should be getting naked.  And yes, it should be spelled out before they even register.  If, however, it stated in the syllabus that students could VOLUNTEER to pose as nude models I'd be okay with that.  Just not everyone feels comfortable enough in their own body to be naked in a room full of people.  I know I don't.  And just because someone doesn't want to be naked in a room full of people doesn't mean they have less art talent than someone else.  The only thing I see that is really extremely objectionable to me is what ohfour said.  This class is required to take the next class.  That's kind of forcing students into doing something they don't want in order to get their degree.

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 It's an elective course. They don't have to take it if they have a problem with nudity.

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 It's a prerequisite to a VERBAL arts course.  You can't take the other course if you don't take this one.  Therefore, not truly elective.

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Its elective that you do not to take either class.

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 You don't have to take either of those classes to graduate in that program.  They are elective courses.  There is a lot of nudity in art school.  

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So, I really want to take this course, but I have to get naked and be erotic in from of my professor.  Yeah, that's just awesome.

What a disgusting world we live in where someone thinks this is OK... 

Displaying your own eroticism is not artistic if you are forced to do it...

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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I hope they're sterilizing the chairs between use.

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 Thank you, so I'm not the only one who thinks this way.  Ewww.

Displaying your own eroticism is not artistic if you are forced to do it... - Ohfour

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I suppose a person could choose to not take the class. It's not like there's someone with a gun to anyone's head forcing them to take it.

Lawyerlady wrote:

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WYSIWYG wrote:

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Displaying your own eroticism is not artistic if you are forced to do it... - Ohfour

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I suppose a person could choose to not take the class. It's not like there's someone with a gun to anyone's head forcing them to take it.

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 It's a prerequisite to another class that they need.

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 They do not need the second class.

It's a prerequisite to another class that they need. - Lawyerlady

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Is anyone holding a gun to their head requiring them to have that other class?

I hate the "need" descriptor that too often gets used. People "need" food. People "need" water. People "need" air. People don't "need" a class, any class. They may "want" the class, but they don't "need" it.

If a person wants the class, suck it up, act like a grown up, and deal with the requirements of the class. If the person doesn't want to deal with the requirements, then they don't have to. No one is forcing anything on anyone in this situation.

So, if the teacher says all students have to have sex in his class, is that okay, too?

I would just take this much more seriously if it was a student or even former student complaining.
But as long as the students don't mind and are all adults, I guess I really don't care.

There is no class requirement in the universe that could make me get naked if I didn't want to be.

But, if parents are stupid enough to fork over their hard earned life savings so Junior can take these idiotic classes then fine I guess.

The fact that anyone just thinks this is OK is bizarre. I guess taking advantage of the sexuality of young people is ok now? Or, err, guess it depends on one's political leanings.

Get naked or fail?


That's not exactly free choice, now is it?

Um, the professor is the Authority and the students are subordinates. But, I guess somehow that is OK.

Get naked or fail?

That's not exactly free choice, now is it?
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No. That's not free choice. I agree with you. And if there had been no option but to take the class or die, your point could stand.

However, "choose to take the class or not" is free choice.

Well said.

WYSIWYG wrote:

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When you are paying to attend a college - you shouldn't have to choose between not taking a class you'd like to take and having to get naked for your professor. -Lawyerlady

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If you don't want to take the class, then don't take the class.

Would you suggest that someone demand that squares not be taught in a college geometry class, because a student doesn't like them? That's essentially the same thing. Wanting to skip a class requirement because the student doesn't like it.

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 No, it really isn't.  Getting naked has nothing to do with learning about art.  Only perverts would see this as a valid class requirement.

 

I'm done engaging you completely.  If I had an ignore feature, I would use it.  You like to use the stupidest arguments I've ever seen, and as I tell people - it is easier to argue with valid arguments than non-sensical ones.  And I prefer not to waste my time any further.  Beating my head against the stupidest damn comments is not good for my calm so I'm over it.

I'm done engaging you completely. If I had an ignore feature, I would use it. You like to use the stupidest arguments I've ever seen, and as I tell people - it is easier to argue with valid arguments than non-sensical ones. And I prefer not to waste my time any further. Beating my head against the stupidest damn comments is not good for my calm so I'm over it -Lawyerlady

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I realize you said you are done, but I have a comment about this comment.

How is it a nonsensical argument to compare it to removing a part of any other program or class? Removing the nude test because a student disapproves of it would be just like removing squares from algebra if the student didn't like them, or just like removing "Contracts" from an Administrative Law course if the student didn't like them. Changing the course to suit the desires of the student is just that, no matter what the change is.

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Fort Worth Mom wrote:

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UC of San Diego.

Enough said, IMHO.

I give UT credit, with being honest.

When I took Mere on college visits, there were 3 on the list.

Texas A&M, The University of Texas, Austin, And Baylor University, in Waco.

(Baylor, only made the cut for a visit, because they had offered Meredith a $40,000 scholarship, at 10K, per year. Had she decided to go there. Nope. No way, no how. )

So, now it was down to 2 state schools. The cost would have been about the same. Within a couple of hundred dollars.

(Oh, and at this point, Ohio State, threw their hat into the ring! Come to The Ohio State University....we want diversity! We'll offer you instate tuition! Ummm.....nope. Too far from home. Mere didn't even finish the reams of paperwork, to go for that one.)

We went to College Station first. What a good experience!

They really do say "Howdy", to anyone they meet on the sidewalk.

And, when I was studying my map, trying to figure out which way we should go, one of the Corp of Cadet boys stopped.

He said, "Ma'am, can I help you?"

I said, "Yes sir, can you point us in the direction of Rudder Hall? My daughter and I, have a campus tour, in 30 minutes."

He said, "Ma'am, follow me, I'll take you to Rudder Hall. I have an hour, before my next class."

And, God Bless him. He did!

And when we walked in the door, and we got close to where we needed to be, he spotted one of his friends in the Corp. He asked her, if she had a couple of minutes, to take us to the meeting place.

She said, she would be happy to help.

When Texas A&M gets voted, the friendliest campus in the United States. It's true. They earn it!

Our next stop, was Austin. The University of Texas, or, TU, as graduates from A&M like to call them.

We did the campus tour.

No one offered a bit of help, when I was looking at my map.

And, one of the Dad's on the tour, asked a very good question. (I wish I had thought of it. I didn't. But, thank goodness, he did!)

He asked the young man, leading the tour, "Is there any reason why, you wouldn't send your child, to the University of Texas?"

And, our tour guide said, "Well, if you are from a conservative Christian Family, you might not fit in, very well. This is a very liberal college. If you are from the Fort Worth area, (and yes, he singled out Fort Worth), you probably won't be very happy here."

I thanked him for his honesty, even though, I hadn't asked the question.

Thank goodness, Mere picked A&M.

Baylor would have been a nightmare. One of her teachers in High School, warned her, not to go there.

Austin, would not have been a good fit.

And, Ohio State, was just too far away.

Pay attention, when picking out a school. Don't go to liberal land, if you are conservative. And, vise versa.

JMHO.

 

 

 

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 I voted Democrat in college.  Just sayin'.

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So did I! Just sayin'. ROFLMAO!