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How would any person know if a cat had a headache?? That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.


 There was a thread about a guy who murdered his daughter because she had terrible migraines, then killed his wife because he didn't want her to suffer the loss of her child, then killed his sister so she wouldn't know what he'd done. Some people had all kinds of sympathy for this "poor guy". Most of those who had sympathy for the "poor guy" are now outraged that the cat and kittens were killed. Just so you understand the reference.


For me, the motivation makes the 2 completely incomparable...


Well not for me. They were both unnecessary and extremely evil but I'm getting used to who get's sympathy around here from some. Fortunately there are plenty of people here who have their sympathy in the right place so I guess to each their own.  


I take it "your place" is the "right place"? confuse

I have no issue with people not agreeing with me. It is their right. *shrug*


Yes I believe "my place" is the right place. That's the thing about opinions. We all think ours are "right". I have no issue with people disagreeing either but I will always have issues with people who sympathize with murderers. I just can't help that. 



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Have issue all you want. Can't really say it changes how I see things.

I still maintain my opinion on both matters.



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I wouldn't compare killing a human to killing a cat, personally. BUT, the killing of the cats is heinous enough to be horrible all on its own. Especially with the reason she did it.


People used to drown cats.  That wasn't uncommon in rural areas where there were way too many cats. 



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Have issue all you want. Can't really say it changes how I see things.

I still maintain my opinion on both matters.


 I didn't say it would change how you see things, just pointing out that sympathy for murders is very strange to me. Maintain away on this all you want and we'll agree to disagree...meh



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How would any person know if a cat had a headache?? That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.


 There was a thread about a guy who murdered his daughter because she had terrible migraines, then killed his wife because he didn't want her to suffer the loss of her child, then killed his sister so she wouldn't know what he'd done. Some people had all kinds of sympathy for this "poor guy". Most of those who had sympathy for the "poor guy" are now outraged that the cat and kittens were killed. Just so you understand the reference.


For me, the motivation makes the 2 completely incomparable...


I got your reference, Lily, & chose to ignore it.

But, as usual, chille is succinct & to the point.

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How would any person know if a cat had a headache?? That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.


 There was a thread about a guy who murdered his daughter because she had terrible migraines, then killed his wife because he didn't want her to suffer the loss of her child, then killed his sister so she wouldn't know what he'd done. Some people had all kinds of sympathy for this "poor guy". Most of those who had sympathy for the "poor guy" are now outraged that the cat and kittens were killed. Just so you understand the reference.


For me, the motivation makes the 2 completely incomparable...


I got your reference, Lily, & chose to ignore it.

But, as usual, chille is succinct & to the point.

flan 


 This was me replying to msrock because SHE didn't get the reference so I'm not sure why you dragged lily into this. Oh wait I do know.



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Tinydancer wrote:
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How would any person know if a cat had a headache?? That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.


 There was a thread about a guy who murdered his daughter because she had terrible migraines, then killed his wife because he didn't want her to suffer the loss of her child, then killed his sister so she wouldn't know what he'd done. Some people had all kinds of sympathy for this "poor guy". Most of those who had sympathy for the "poor guy" are now outraged that the cat and kittens were killed. Just so you understand the reference.


For me, the motivation makes the 2 completely incomparable...


I got your reference, Lily, & chose to ignore it.

But, as usual, chille is succinct & to the point.

flan 


 This was me replying to msrock because SHE didn't get the reference so I'm not sure why you dragged lily into this. Oh wait I do know.


Because it was LILY who thought she was being witty by referencing the thread about the father who killed his daughter who was having severe migraines.

Nothing to do with this grandmother taking a hammer to family pets...

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flan327 wrote:
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How would any person know if a cat had a headache?? That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.


 There was a thread about a guy who murdered his daughter because she had terrible migraines, then killed his wife because he didn't want her to suffer the loss of her child, then killed his sister so she wouldn't know what he'd done. Some people had all kinds of sympathy for this "poor guy". Most of those who had sympathy for the "poor guy" are now outraged that the cat and kittens were killed. Just so you understand the reference.


For me, the motivation makes the 2 completely incomparable...


I got your reference, Lily, & chose to ignore it.

But, as usual, chille is succinct & to the point.

flan 


 This was me replying to msrock because SHE didn't get the reference so I'm not sure why you dragged lily into this. Oh wait I do know.


Because it was LILY who thought she was being witty by referencing the thread about the father who killed his daughter who was having severe migraines.

Nothing to do with this grandmother taking a hammer to family pets...

flan


 Except she was pointing out the hypocrisy of feeling sympathy for a murder while getting outraged at the cat and kittens being killed. If you can't see the hypocrisy in that then that's just par for the course.



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Oh, noes!

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Well isn't being a "hypocrite" supposedly the worst thing ever? I mean the Left likes to yell that a lot.

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Oh, noes!

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 How very adult of you. Quite the argument for your side of the debate but then again it's what you do...lol.



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 How very adult of you. Quite the argument for your side of the debate but then again it's what you do...lol.


For me, motivation makes all the difference here. As I stated in the unrelated thread, I sympathize with the father's emotions, but not his actions. This woman's emotions and actions does not motivate any sympathy from me what so ever.



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 How very adult of you. Quite the argument for your side of the debate but then again it's what you do...lol.


For me, motivation makes all the difference here. As I stated in the unrelated thread, I sympathize with the father's emotions, but not his actions. This woman's emotions and actions does not motivate any sympathy from me what so ever.


 I'm sorry but the motivation for murder never deserves sympathy and why you quoted this post to tell me that I don't get.



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flan327 wrote:
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How would any person know if a cat had a headache?? That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.


 There was a thread about a guy who murdered his daughter because she had terrible migraines, then killed his wife because he didn't want her to suffer the loss of her child, then killed his sister so she wouldn't know what he'd done. Some people had all kinds of sympathy for this "poor guy". Most of those who had sympathy for the "poor guy" are now outraged that the cat and kittens were killed. Just so you understand the reference.


For me, the motivation makes the 2 completely incomparable...


I got your reference, Lily, & chose to ignore it.

But, as usual, chille is succinct & to the point.

flan 


 This was me replying to msrock because SHE didn't get the reference so I'm not sure why you dragged lily into this. Oh wait I do know.


Because it was LILY who thought she was being witty by referencing the thread about the father who killed his daughter who was having severe migraines.

Nothing to do with this grandmother taking a hammer to family pets...

flan


 Yes it does. It's on the spectrum of the same issuse.

The guy kills his family and you feel sorry for him. Not the family. Get him help.

Grandma kills a cat and ya'll want her drawn and quartered in the street cause she's an evil monster. 

It's a twisted way of thinking.

Grandma needs help. Guy needs to be dead.



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chillepeppa wrote:
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Oh, noes!

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 How very adult of you. Quite the argument for your side of the debate but then again it's what you do...lol.


For me, motivation makes all the difference here. As I stated in the unrelated thread, I sympathize with the father's emotions, but not his actions. This woman's emotions and actions does not motivate any sympathy from me what so ever.


 Motivation of guy, he is tired of dealing with sick daughter.

Motivation of grandma, she is trying to discipline her grandkids.

Now. I DO NOT AGREE WITH HER METHOD.

But it is a better motive than the selfishness of the guy.



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Tinydancer wrote:
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Oh, noes!

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 How very adult of you. Quite the argument for your side of the debate but then again it's what you do...lol.


For me, motivation makes all the difference here. As I stated in the unrelated thread, I sympathize with the father's emotions, but not his actions. This woman's emotions and actions does not motivate any sympathy from me what so ever.


 I'm sorry but the motivation for murder never deserves sympathy and why you quoted this post to tell me that I don't get.


Guess I could have gone a bit further back as this all comes from the hypocrisy line of the thread. 

No need to feel sorry for having a different opinion. I know I'm not. 



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Oh, noes!

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 Really? Are you 12?



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Oh, noes!

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 Really? Are you 12?


No, just talking to someone who often acts like she is...

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Oh, noes!

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 Really? Are you 12?


No, just talking to someone who often acts like she is...

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 Talking to yourself again flan?



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Oh, noes!

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 How very adult of you. Quite the argument for your side of the debate but then again it's what you do...lol.


For me, motivation makes all the difference here. As I stated in the unrelated thread, I sympathize with the father's emotions, but not his actions. This woman's emotions and actions does not motivate any sympathy from me what so ever.


 Motivation of guy, he is tired of dealing with sick daughter.

Motivation of grandma, she is trying to discipline her grandkids.

Now. I DO NOT AGREE WITH HER METHOD.

But it is a better motive than the selfishness of the guy.


Motivation of FATHER: he loves his daughter & can't stand to see her in such pain.

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Oh, noes!

flan


 How very adult of you. Quite the argument for your side of the debate but then again it's what you do...lol.


For me, motivation makes all the difference here. As I stated in the unrelated thread, I sympathize with the father's emotions, but not his actions. This woman's emotions and actions does not motivate any sympathy from me what so ever.


 Motivation of guy, he is tired of dealing with sick daughter.

Motivation of grandma, she is trying to discipline her grandkids.

Now. I DO NOT AGREE WITH HER METHOD.

But it is a better motive than the selfishness of the guy.


Motivation of FATHER: he loves his daughter & can't stand to see her in such pain.

flan 


BULLSCHIT! 



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flan327 wrote:
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Oh, noes!

flan


 How very adult of you. Quite the argument for your side of the debate but then again it's what you do...lol.


For me, motivation makes all the difference here. As I stated in the unrelated thread, I sympathize with the father's emotions, but not his actions. This woman's emotions and actions does not motivate any sympathy from me what so ever.


 Motivation of guy, he is tired of dealing with sick daughter.

Motivation of grandma, she is trying to discipline her grandkids.

Now. I DO NOT AGREE WITH HER METHOD.

But it is a better motive than the selfishness of the guy.


Motivation of FATHER: he loves his daughter & can't stand to see her in such pain.

flan 


 So the wife and sister were just extra perks? That's sick.



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He's was a Sick Son of a Beitch. And, a Horrible human being.

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Oh, noes!

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 Really? Are you 12?


No, just talking to someone who often acts like she is...

flan

 


 Oh that's priceless. 

And predictable.

 



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

He's was a Sick Son of a Beitch. And, a Horrible human being.


I love you, but I disagree.

His ACTIONS were wrong, but he loved his child.

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Oh, noes!

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 How very adult of you. Quite the argument for your side of the debate but then again it's what you do...lol.


For me, motivation makes all the difference here. As I stated in the unrelated thread, I sympathize with the father's emotions, but not his actions. This woman's emotions and actions does not motivate any sympathy from me what so ever.


 Motivation of guy, he is tired of dealing with sick daughter.

Motivation of grandma, she is trying to discipline her grandkids.

Now. I DO NOT AGREE WITH HER METHOD.

But it is a better motive than the selfishness of the guy.


Motivation of FATHER: he loves his daughter & can't stand to see her in such pain.

flan 


 No. He was tired of dealing with it. It had nothing to do with her. It had everything to do with him wanting out.



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He's was a Sick Son of a Beitch. And, a Horrible human being.


I love you, but I disagree.

His ACTIONS were wrong, but he loved his child.

flan 


 Way to show it daddy. Kill my mom and aunt while you're at it dad because it's all about you dad...



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He's was a Sick Son of a Beitch. And, a Horrible human being.


I love you, but I disagree.

His ACTIONS were wrong, but he loved his child.

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 Did he ever. Loved her to death. What a guy.



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He's was a Sick Son of a Beitch. And, a Horrible human being.


I love you, but I disagree.

His ACTIONS were wrong, but he loved his child.

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Wrong again. 



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Unbelievable. Oh and kill mom too so she doesn't suffer. Then kill the rest of your family. Why not kill the whole damn world because everybody suffers? I find the propensity of the Left toward death and annihilation to be very curious.



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A parent who loves their child will fight to keep them alive until there is absolutely nothing else to be done.

And then they help that child be as comfortable as possible till the end.

This guy didn't love his child.

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Oh, noes!

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 How very adult of you. Quite the argument for your side of the debate but then again it's what you do...lol.


For me, motivation makes all the difference here. As I stated in the unrelated thread, I sympathize with the father's emotions, but not his actions. This woman's emotions and actions does not motivate any sympathy from me what so ever.


 Motivation of guy, he is tired of dealing with sick daughter.

Motivation of grandma, she is trying to discipline her grandkids.

Now. I DO NOT AGREE WITH HER METHOD.

But it is a better motive than the selfishness of the guy.


Motivation of FATHER: he loves his daughter & can't stand to see her in such pain.

flan 


 No. He was tired of dealing with it. It had nothing to do with her. It had everything to do with him wanting out.


WHAT did HE "have to deal with?"

Seeing his child suffering & knowing that he could not help her.

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A parent who loves their child will fight to keep them alive until there is absolutely nothing else to be done.

And then they help that child be as comfortable as possible till the end.

This guy didn't love his child.


 YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT.

Oh, and I saw my mom 2 days before she died. She chose to grasp at every thread she was offered.

I will NOT put my boys through that.

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Oh, noes!

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 How very adult of you. Quite the argument for your side of the debate but then again it's what you do...lol.


For me, motivation makes all the difference here. As I stated in the unrelated thread, I sympathize with the father's emotions, but not his actions. This woman's emotions and actions does not motivate any sympathy from me what so ever.


 Motivation of guy, he is tired of dealing with sick daughter.

Motivation of grandma, she is trying to discipline her grandkids.

Now. I DO NOT AGREE WITH HER METHOD.

But it is a better motive than the selfishness of the guy.


Motivation of FATHER: he loves his daughter & can't stand to see her in such pain.

flan 


 No. He was tired of dealing with it. It had nothing to do with her. It had everything to do with him wanting out.


WHAT did HE "have to deal with?"

Seeing his child suffering & knowing that he could not help her.

flan 


 It's a lot of work having a sick kid.

He wanted out of the whole situation. 

You will never convince me he did it out of the good of his heart. 

But you feel sorry for him. It's kinda become your thing to root for the morally corrupt. 



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What about HER choice flan? If she wanted to end her life, why was that not HER choice?

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A parent who loves their child will fight to keep them alive until there is absolutely nothing else to be done.

And then they help that child be as comfortable as possible till the end.

This guy didn't love his child.


 YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT.

Oh, and I saw my mom 2 days before she died. She chose to grasp at every thread she was offered.

I will NOT put my boys through that.

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We do know that.  Actions speak louder than words.  He was a selfish, sick son of a B.  A loser.  A disgusting murdering pig. 



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flan327 wrote:
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A parent who loves their child will fight to keep them alive until there is absolutely nothing else to be done.

And then they help that child be as comfortable as possible till the end.

This guy didn't love his child.


 YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT.

Oh, and I saw my mom 2 days before she died. She chose to grasp at every thread she was offered.

I will NOT put my boys through that.

flan


 You don't see the difference. Amazing.

Personal choice vs. No personal choice.

The daughter didn't choose to die. Her father murdered her against her will.

Good God Flan. 



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A parent who loves their child will fight to keep them alive until there is absolutely nothing else to be done.

And then they help that child be as comfortable as possible till the end.

This guy didn't love his child.


 YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT.

Oh, and I saw my mom 2 days before she died. She chose to grasp at every thread she was offered.

I will NOT put my boys through that.

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 You don't see the difference. Amazing.

Personal choice vs. No personal choice.

The daughter didn't choose to die. Her father murdered her against her will.

Good God Flan. 


Yes.  Good God Flan. 



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He took away the choice of his daughter and his wife. Sick, sick, sick. Hope he rots in Hell.

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lilyofcourse wrote:
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A parent who loves their child will fight to keep them alive until there is absolutely nothing else to be done.

And then they help that child be as comfortable as possible till the end.

This guy didn't love his child.


 YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT.

Oh, and I saw my mom 2 days before she died. She chose to grasp at every thread she was offered.

I will NOT put my boys through that.

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 You don't see the difference. Amazing.

Personal choice vs. No personal choice.

The daughter didn't choose to die. Her father murdered her against her will.

Good God Flan. 


 I.UNDERSTAND.THAT.

But you cannot see into this man's heart.

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flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

A parent who loves their child will fight to keep them alive until there is absolutely nothing else to be done.

And then they help that child be as comfortable as possible till the end.

This guy didn't love his child.


 YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT.

Oh, and I saw my mom 2 days before she died. She chose to grasp at every thread she was offered.

I will NOT put my boys through that.

flan


 You don't see the difference. Amazing.

Personal choice vs. No personal choice.

The daughter didn't choose to die. Her father murdered her against her will.

Good God Flan. 


 I.UNDERSTAND.THAT.

But you cannot see into this man's heart.

flan


What part of HE TOOK AWAY HER CHOICE, don't you understand? 



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lilyofcourse wrote:
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chillepeppa wrote:
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Oh, noes!

flan


 How very adult of you. Quite the argument for your side of the debate but then again it's what you do...lol.


For me, motivation makes all the difference here. As I stated in the unrelated thread, I sympathize with the father's emotions, but not his actions. This woman's emotions and actions does not motivate any sympathy from me what so ever.


 Motivation of guy, he is tired of dealing with sick daughter.

Motivation of grandma, she is trying to discipline her grandkids.

Now. I DO NOT AGREE WITH HER METHOD.

But it is a better motive than the selfishness of the guy.


Motivation of FATHER: he loves his daughter & can't stand to see her in such pain.

flan 


 No. He was tired of dealing with it. It had nothing to do with her. It had everything to do with him wanting out.


WHAT did HE "have to deal with?"

Seeing his child suffering & knowing that he could not help her.

flan 


 It's a lot of work having a sick kid.

He wanted out of the whole situation. 

You will never convince me he did it out of the good of his heart. 

But you feel sorry for him. It's kinda become your thing to root for the morally corrupt. 


 I'm sorry that compassion is an alien concept to you.

"Morally corrupt?" Coming from you, that's a compliment!

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

He took away the choice of his daughter and his wife. Sick, sick, sick. Hope he rots in Hell.


Last time I checked, none of us was in the position to make that decision. 

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flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

A parent who loves their child will fight to keep them alive until there is absolutely nothing else to be done.

And then they help that child be as comfortable as possible till the end.

This guy didn't love his child.


 YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT.

Oh, and I saw my mom 2 days before she died. She chose to grasp at every thread she was offered.

I will NOT put my boys through that.

flan


 You don't see the difference. Amazing.

Personal choice vs. No personal choice.

The daughter didn't choose to die. Her father murdered her against her will.

Good God Flan. 


 I.UNDERSTAND.THAT.

But you cannot see into this man's heart.

flan


 Uhhh... he has put it on display for the world to see.

What he did was not love. 



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What part of He took away their choices do u not understand?

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Sick murdering bastards deserve sympathy and hard working Christians who won't bake a cake deserve none. Quite the wonderful world you live in.

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Bass ackwards.

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I'm very happy with the world I live in.

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flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

A parent who loves their child will fight to keep them alive until there is absolutely nothing else to be done.

And then they help that child be as comfortable as possible till the end.

This guy didn't love his child.


 YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT.

Oh, and I saw my mom 2 days before she died. She chose to grasp at every thread she was offered.

I will NOT put my boys through that.

flan


 You don't see the difference. Amazing.

Personal choice vs. No personal choice.

The daughter didn't choose to die. Her father murdered her against her will.

Good God Flan. 


 I.UNDERSTAND.THAT.

But you cannot see into this man's heart.

flan


 Oh but you can so you know it was out of the goodness of his heart. Still no answer as to why the wife and sister were ok to kill. Talk about a moral compass...lol



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flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
chillepeppa wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
flan327 wrote:

Oh, noes!

flan


 How very adult of you. Quite the argument for your side of the debate but then again it's what you do...lol.


For me, motivation makes all the difference here. As I stated in the unrelated thread, I sympathize with the father's emotions, but not his actions. This woman's emotions and actions does not motivate any sympathy from me what so ever.


 Motivation of guy, he is tired of dealing with sick daughter.

Motivation of grandma, she is trying to discipline her grandkids.

Now. I DO NOT AGREE WITH HER METHOD.

But it is a better motive than the selfishness of the guy.


Motivation of FATHER: he loves his daughter & can't stand to see her in such pain.

flan 


 No. He was tired of dealing with it. It had nothing to do with her. It had everything to do with him wanting out.


WHAT did HE "have to deal with?"

Seeing his child suffering & knowing that he could not help her.

flan 


 It's a lot of work having a sick kid.

He wanted out of the whole situation. 

You will never convince me he did it out of the good of his heart. 

But you feel sorry for him. It's kinda become your thing to root for the morally corrupt. 


 I'm sorry that compassion is an alien concept to you.

"Morally corrupt?" Coming from you, that's a compliment!

flan


 Compassion for a guy who killed his daughter, wife and sister. In cold blood. 

Nope. I have none.

I have no compassion for morally bankrupt people or those who sympathize with them.



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