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lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Marilyn Monroe

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Bonny22Pye · Guru

I'm really not a fan of the cult of Marilyn. She was an adulterer and a drug addict.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

True. She had her demons.

burns07 · Guru

Elton John absolutely nailed her with " Candle in the Wind "

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

An American Beauty.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

He did. Love that song.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Prior to Photo shopping and botox!

huskerbb · Guru

Bonny22Pye wrote:
I'm really not a fan of the cult of Marilyn. She was an adulterer and a drug addict.

But her flaws are part and parcel of what makes her an icon.

A superstar--but so flawed and vulnerable at the same time.

Bonny22Pye · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
I'm really not a fan of the cult of Marilyn. She was an adulterer and a drug addict.
But her flaws are part and parcel of what makes her an icon.

A superstar--but so flawed and vulnerable at the same time.

I get it, i just don't care for her.

Lindley · Guru

She had a hard childhood.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I was only stating that she would have been 89.

And I found the quote things and liked them.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Bonny22Pye wrote:
I'm really not a fan of the cult of Marilyn. She was an adulterer and a drug addict.

I think we are always surprised to find out that human beings are flawed people. Everyone is. And, yeah, some people's sins are more public or more egregious, but everyone has their own things to wrestle with in life. As for addiction, if a doctor prescribed it back in her day, then it was deemed to be OK.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I think she was a pawn.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
I'm really not a fan of the cult of Marilyn. She was an adulterer and a drug addict.
I think we are always surprised to find out that human beings are flawed people. Everyone is. And, yeah, some people's sins are more public or more egregious, but everyone has their own things to wrestle with in life. As for addiction, if a doctor prescribed it back in her day, then it was deemed to be OK.

Yes, they are. Obviously, Bonny chooses not to be a fan of someone with her particular sins. And yes, everyone is flawed, but not everyone chooses to engage in certain sins. And certainly, not everyone who so publicly engages in all sins should be put on the altar to worship.

Look at Josh Duggar - he made mistakes as a kid and people don't care that he was a minor - they are ready to string him up and they don't care that his privacy was violated because his life is in the public eye.

Marilyn Monroe, however, was known to have several affairs with married men and outside her own marriage and she is worshipped.

The world is a little f'ed up.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I don't worship her.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
I don't worship her.

flan

A lot of people do. You are not all people.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I don't worship her.

flan
A lot of people do. You are not all people.

I don't worship Elvis either.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well, I don't worship her. But, I can appreciate her status as an American Icon.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
I'm really not a fan of the cult of Marilyn. She was an adulterer and a drug addict.
I think we are always surprised to find out that human beings are flawed people. Everyone is. And, yeah, some people's sins are more public or more egregious, but everyone has their own things to wrestle with in life. As for addiction, if a doctor prescribed it back in her day, then it was deemed to be OK.
Yes, they are. Obviously, Bonny chooses not to be a fan of someone with her particular sins. And yes, everyone is flawed, but not everyone chooses to engage in certain sins. And certainly, not everyone who so publicly engages in all sins should be put on the altar to worship.
Look at Josh Duggar - he made mistakes as a kid and people don't care that he was a minor - they are ready to string him up and they don't care that his privacy was violated because his life is in the public eye.
Marilyn Monroe, however, was known to have several affairs with married men and outside her own marriage and she is worshipped.
The world is a little f'ed up.

I agree. Nobody has to be a fan of anyone. But, if you seriously believe that celebs or leaders or politicians or your minister or your neighbor doen'st have some character flaws, you are deluded.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
I'm really not a fan of the cult of Marilyn. She was an adulterer and a drug addict.
I think we are always surprised to find out that human beings are flawed people. Everyone is. And, yeah, some people's sins are more public or more egregious, but everyone has their own things to wrestle with in life. As for addiction, if a doctor prescribed it back in her day, then it was deemed to be OK.
Yes, they are. Obviously, Bonny chooses not to be a fan of someone with her particular sins. And yes, everyone is flawed, but not everyone chooses to engage in certain sins. And certainly, not everyone who so publicly engages in all sins should be put on the altar to worship.
Look at Josh Duggar - he made mistakes as a kid and people don't care that he was a minor - they are ready to string him up and they don't care that his privacy was violated because his life is in the public eye.
Marilyn Monroe, however, was known to have several affairs with married men and outside her own marriage and she is worshipped.
The world is a little f'ed up.
I agree. Nobody has to be a fan of anyone. But, if you seriously believe that celebs or leaders or politicians or your minister or your neighbor doen'st have some character flaws, you are deluded.

Of course they have character flaws, but adultery isn't exactly a character flaw - it is an action taken based upon a character flaw - because everyone knows it is wrong, and yet people CHOOSE to do it, anyway. That is purposely flaunting marriage vows that were voluntarily entered into.

Everyone has their own view on what is egregious and what is not.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

True. But, people act SHOCKED, SHOCKED, SHOCKED to find out that other people have issues. Well, duh. So does everyone. We are bowled over by someone taking drugs, but gluttony in the church, well pass the pie! Sin is sin is it NOT?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
True. But, people act SHOCKED, SHOCKED, SHOCKED to find out that other people have issues. Well, duh. So does everyone. We are bowled over by someone taking drugs, but gluttony in the church, well pass the pie! Sin is sin is it NOT?

It is. But I don't think eating pie in church qualifies as gluttony.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
True. But, people act SHOCKED, SHOCKED, SHOCKED to find out that other people have issues. Well, duh. So does everyone. We are bowled over by someone taking drugs, but gluttony in the church, well pass the pie! Sin is sin is it NOT?
It is. But I don't think eating pie in church qualifies as gluttony.

No, not in of itself but you know what I mean. I personally think the church is overly focused on certain sins while ignoring others. That's my point. And, people do the same thing. What about the sin of Pride? God had a lot to say about that but we dont' seem particularly bothered by that.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
True. But, people act SHOCKED, SHOCKED, SHOCKED to find out that other people have issues. Well, duh. So does everyone. We are bowled over by someone taking drugs, but gluttony in the church, well pass the pie! Sin is sin is it NOT?
It is. But I don't think eating pie in church qualifies as gluttony.
No, not in of itself but you know what I mean. I personally think the church is overly focused on certain sins while ignoring others. That's my point. And, people do the same thing. What about the sin of Pride? God had a lot to say about that but we dont' seem particularly bothered by that.

Where did I mention sin or the church? Adultery is bad by societal moral standards without even needing to bring the church into it.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
True. But, people act SHOCKED, SHOCKED, SHOCKED to find out that other people have issues. Well, duh. So does everyone. We are bowled over by someone taking drugs, but gluttony in the church, well pass the pie! Sin is sin is it NOT?
It is. But I don't think eating pie in church qualifies as gluttony.
No, not in of itself but you know what I mean. I personally think the church is overly focused on certain sins while ignoring others. That's my point. And, people do the same thing. What about the sin of Pride? God had a lot to say about that but we dont' seem particularly bothered by that.
Where did I mention sin or the church? Adultery is bad by societal moral standards without even needing to bring the church into it.

Yes. But, where do standards come from? God.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
True. But, people act SHOCKED, SHOCKED, SHOCKED to find out that other people have issues. Well, duh. So does everyone. We are bowled over by someone taking drugs, but gluttony in the church, well pass the pie! Sin is sin is it NOT?
It is. But I don't think eating pie in church qualifies as gluttony.
No, not in of itself but you know what I mean. I personally think the church is overly focused on certain sins while ignoring others. That's my point. And, people do the same thing. What about the sin of Pride? God had a lot to say about that but we dont' seem particularly bothered by that.

I care. Pride is probably actually the worst sin b/c it is the one that keeps people from God. Thinking they don't need him or they know better than him.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

What is funny though, is that we are more upset by indiscretions of celebs and athletes than we are for our leaders!

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
True. But, people act SHOCKED, SHOCKED, SHOCKED to find out that other people have issues. Well, duh. So does everyone. We are bowled over by someone taking drugs, but gluttony in the church, well pass the pie! Sin is sin is it NOT?
It is. But I don't think eating pie in church qualifies as gluttony.
No, not in of itself but you know what I mean. I personally think the church is overly focused on certain sins while ignoring others. That's my point. And, people do the same thing. What about the sin of Pride? God had a lot to say about that but we dont' seem particularly bothered by that.
Where did I mention sin or the church? Adultery is bad by societal moral standards without even needing to bring the church into it.
Yes. But, where do standards come from? God.

I agree - but people that don't believe in God don't believe that, and yet most still think adultery is bad.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
True. But, people act SHOCKED, SHOCKED, SHOCKED to find out that other people have issues. Well, duh. So does everyone. We are bowled over by someone taking drugs, but gluttony in the church, well pass the pie! Sin is sin is it NOT?
It is. But I don't think eating pie in church qualifies as gluttony.
No, not in of itself but you know what I mean. I personally think the church is overly focused on certain sins while ignoring others. That's my point. And, people do the same thing. What about the sin of Pride? God had a lot to say about that but we dont' seem particularly bothered by that.
Where did I mention sin or the church? Adultery is bad by societal moral standards without even needing to bring the church into it.
Yes. But, where do standards come from? God.
I agree - but people that don't believe in God don't believe that, and yet most still think adultery is bad.

Well of course they do. Because God has "written his law on the hearts of men". That is why there is a pretty common set of morals across the board.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
What is funny though, is that we are more upset by indiscretions of celebs and athletes than we are for our leaders!

That is because they are put on a pedestal more than our leaders are. Most will complain about and question and realize that our leaders pretty much suck, but celebrities? They just get love and adoration.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
True. But, people act SHOCKED, SHOCKED, SHOCKED to find out that other people have issues. Well, duh. So does everyone. We are bowled over by someone taking drugs, but gluttony in the church, well pass the pie! Sin is sin is it NOT?
It is. But I don't think eating pie in church qualifies as gluttony.
No, not in of itself but you know what I mean. I personally think the church is overly focused on certain sins while ignoring others. That's my point. And, people do the same thing. What about the sin of Pride? God had a lot to say about that but we dont' seem particularly bothered by that.
Where did I mention sin or the church? Adultery is bad by societal moral standards without even needing to bring the church into it.
Yes. But, where do standards come from? God.
I agree - but people that don't believe in God don't believe that, and yet most still think adultery is bad.
Well of course they do. Because God has "written his law on the hearts of men". That is why there is a pretty common set of morals across the board.

I know that and you know that - but not everyone will agree with that.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
True. But, people act SHOCKED, SHOCKED, SHOCKED to find out that other people have issues. Well, duh. So does everyone. We are bowled over by someone taking drugs, but gluttony in the church, well pass the pie! Sin is sin is it NOT?
It is. But I don't think eating pie in church qualifies as gluttony.
No, not in of itself but you know what I mean. I personally think the church is overly focused on certain sins while ignoring others. That's my point. And, people do the same thing. What about the sin of Pride? God had a lot to say about that but we dont' seem particularly bothered by that.
Where did I mention sin or the church? Adultery is bad by societal moral standards without even needing to bring the church into it.
Yes. But, where do standards come from? God.
I agree - but people that don't believe in God don't believe that, and yet most still think adultery is bad.
Well of course they do. Because God has "written his law on the hearts of men". That is why there is a pretty common set of morals across the board.
I know that and you know that - but not everyone will agree with that.

They don't have to agree. It just IS. lol

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I love how people throw out gluttony like a bomb.

Gluttony isn't just about eating too much. Just like famine isn't about not having enough.

Gluttony is over indulgence or consuming anything to the point of hurting yourself. Food, sports, concerts, other people's opinions. It's when what you enjoy or need takes over and becomes all to you.

Famine is starving for anything. Food, love, attention.

The line between gluttony and famine is so thin it is often blurred and the two are mingled.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I agree. It is about making something a God unto you.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Well, I don't worship her. But, I can appreciate her status as an American Icon.

Exactly.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Well, I don't worship her. But, I can appreciate her status as an American Icon.
Exactly.

That's a good way to phrase it.

flan

Bonny22Pye · Guru

She wasn't even a good actress except for Bus Stop

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Bonny22Pye wrote:
She wasn't even a good actress except for Bus Stop

You are taking the acting out of context. In the day when she was a star, the way she acted was almost perfection. By today's standards, not so much.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Bonny. We get it. You don't like her. Ok.

WYSIWYG · Guru

Marilyn Monroe was a beautiful creation of Hollywood.

Back then, her acting ability was above average, and the black and white "soft focus" cameras of the era really did like her. Today, if she was the same age as then and the same talent and looks, I don't think she would do nearly as well or be anywhere near as famous.

I'd also be wary of memes that attribute sayings to anyone. I once saw a meme with Abraham Lincoln commenting on the speed of the internet. I'm pretty sure Honest Abe never actually mentioned the internet during his lifetime.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Bonny. We get it. You don't like her. Ok.

I actually want to hear why Bonny doesn't like her. It makes for interesting conversation. Much more interesting than posts like this.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I kind of don't get the "oh she wouldn't be famous today" type remarks. Well, who knows? Maybe she would or maybe she wouldn't. It's kind of irrelevant. She existed in the point of time when she existed. A lot of famous people today probably would not have been famous then and vice versa. But not sure why that matters. They are what they were.

burns07 · Guru

she was a legend in every respect--the living, breathing embodiment of the " Hollywood dream "--if you've seen many of her films, you began to realize that she's not just an actress, she's a very talented comedienne--" Some Like It Hot " is a perfect example of her comedic talents--opposite tony Curtis, jack Lemmon, George Raft--true, she was somewhat limited as a serious actress but then again that wasn't really her strength and she was rarely cast as such--regards her personal life--lord, married to DiMaggio ( a legend in his own right ) involved with the kennedys and the Camelot set--dying under rather mysterious circumstances--all parts of her aura and allure to this day

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Bonny. We get it. You don't like her. Ok.

I actually want to hear why Bonny doesn't like her. It makes for interesting conversation. Much more interesting than posts like this.

Aww...

Have you missed her other posts? Cause she has said a few times now.

FNW · Guru

I think she already said why. Because she was an adulterer and drug addict.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Bonny. We get it. You don't like her. Ok.

I actually want to hear why Bonny doesn't like her. It makes for interesting conversation. Much more interesting than posts like this.
Aww...
Have you missed her other posts? Cause she has said a few times now.

So? When other people are responding to her telling her why she should like her, she can't respond? It's not like your posts are pearls of wisdom.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I didn't post this thread for any other reason than she would have been 4 years older than my still living grandmother.

It made her more real I guess since I had a human reference to her.

I don't worship her. I think she was a whiny little girl playing dressup.

But she was an icon.

Wouldn't JFK have been about the same age?

It's just reference. Nothing more.

And of anyone can post whatever the want. And I can reply however I want.

Public message board.