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Divine Geek · Guru

RE: Pregnant woman who inexplicably vanished on the day lost her child

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Divine Geek wrote:
her brother cites HIPAA. are family members bound by HIPAA laws? I didn't think they were.

He's bound by family to keep his mouth shut.

(that wasn't snarky I hope)

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Bonny22Pye wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
She SAID she was scheduled for a c section. A doctor has not verified that.
Like gaga said--maybe she wasn't even pregnant--but we need to know IF there was a baby and if there was, what happened to it.
We don't need to know anything. We just want to know.

Exactly. Just because we all want to know and want answers doesn't mean we have the right to have them. Really, it's between the police and her.

huskerbb · Guru

Divine Geek wrote:
her brother cites HIPAA. are family members bound by HIPAA laws? I didn't think they were.

That is pure BS, either way. If the authorities believe a crime has been committed, they need to investigate regardless of HIPPA.

If a crime has NOT been committed, then I would think the family would want that known.

And no, family members are not bound by that.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
She SAID she was scheduled for a c section. A doctor has not verified that.
Like gaga said--maybe she wasn't even pregnant--but we need to know IF there was a baby and if there was, what happened to it.
We don't need to know anything. We just want to know.
Exactly. Just because we all want to know and want answers doesn't mean we have the right to have them. Really, it's between the police and her.

Bullcrap.

So if an 8 year old kid disappears no one should know? Society has a RIGHT and the DUTY to see crimes investigated and prosecuted--and court and police records are public except in rare cases.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
She SAID she was scheduled for a c section. A doctor has not verified that.
Like gaga said--maybe she wasn't even pregnant--but we need to know IF there was a baby and if there was, what happened to it.
We don't need to know anything. We just want to know.
Exactly. Just because we all want to know and want answers doesn't mean we have the right to have them. Really, it's between the police and her.

Bullcrap.

So if an 8 year old kid disappears no one should know? Society has a RIGHT and the DUTY to see crimes investigated and prosecuted--and court and police records are public except in rare cases.

Ah, I think you missed the update. She knew the baby would be stillborn before the scheduled C-section. We are not entitled to know anything more then that.

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
She SAID she was scheduled for a c section. A doctor has not verified that.
Like gaga said--maybe she wasn't even pregnant--but we need to know IF there was a baby and if there was, what happened to it.
We don't need to know anything. We just want to know.
Exactly. Just because we all want to know and want answers doesn't mean we have the right to have them. Really, it's between the police and her.

Bullcrap.

So if an 8 year old kid disappears no one should know? Society has a RIGHT and the DUTY to see crimes investigated and prosecuted--and court and police records are public except in rare cases.
Ah, I think you missed the update. She knew the baby would be stillborn before the scheduled C-section. We are not entitled to know anything more then that.

Then IF true--that is the answer--but we are entitled to know that much, and we are entitled to know if it is true and she's not just saying that to avoid possible criminal charges.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
She SAID she was scheduled for a c section. A doctor has not verified that.
Like gaga said--maybe she wasn't even pregnant--but we need to know IF there was a baby and if there was, what happened to it.
We don't need to know anything. We just want to know.
Exactly. Just because we all want to know and want answers doesn't mean we have the right to have them. Really, it's between the police and her.

Bullcrap.

So if an 8 year old kid disappears no one should know? Society has a RIGHT and the DUTY to see crimes investigated and prosecuted--and court and police records are public except in rare cases.
Ah, I think you missed the update. She knew the baby would be stillborn before the scheduled C-section. We are not entitled to know anything more then that.
Then IF true--that is the answer--but we are entitled to know that much, and we are entitled to know if it is true and she's not just saying that to avoid possible criminal charges.

The information came from family social media pages.

Lindley · Guru

I think if there was a crime committed it would be all over the news. The woman is a adult and there is no law forbidding her from going somewhere without telling someone. If she killed/harm the baby she would be under investigation. This sounds more like a personal family issue and they do not want her subject to anymore attention and are trying to protect her privacy.

Also if there was a crime maybe they (police) are trying to keep it under wraps so they can investigate without it leaking to the press and interfering with the investigation.

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
She SAID she was scheduled for a c section. A doctor has not verified that.
Like gaga said--maybe she wasn't even pregnant--but we need to know IF there was a baby and if there was, what happened to it.
We don't need to know anything. We just want to know.
Exactly. Just because we all want to know and want answers doesn't mean we have the right to have them. Really, it's between the police and her.

Bullcrap.

So if an 8 year old kid disappears no one should know? Society has a RIGHT and the DUTY to see crimes investigated and prosecuted--and court and police records are public except in rare cases.
Ah, I think you missed the update. She knew the baby would be stillborn before the scheduled C-section. We are not entitled to know anything more then that.
Then IF true--that is the answer--but we are entitled to know that much, and we are entitled to know if it is true and she's not just saying that to avoid possible criminal charges.
The information came from family social media pages.

Then I certainly hope the authorities are investigating to see if it is true.

Ohfour · Hooker

The family did not say she miscarried. They said:

'we no longer expect a new addition to our family'

She was never pregnant...

Ilumine · Regular

I am still trying to figure out why SOCIETY needs to know every detail about a crime. Exactly how does not knowing the details of a crime negatively affect society (outside of what is needed to keep people safe in the immediate sense) or how knowing the details of a crime positively affect society (outside of what is needed to keep people safe in the immediate sense).

Since there isn't a public health or safety issue, other than wanting the gossip, there is nothing to see here.

huskerbb · Guru

Ilumine wrote:
I am still trying to figure out why SOCIETY needs to know every detail about a crime. Exactly how does not knowing the details of a crime negatively affect society (outside of what is needed to keep people safe in the immediate sense) or how knowing the details of a crime positively affect society (outside of what is needed to keep people safe in the immediate sense).

Since there isn't a public health or safety issue, other than wanting the gossip, there is nothing to see here.

???? They don't need every detail--but they certainly need to know IF a crime has been committed, or not.

We are paying the police and the courts. We have an absolute duty to ensure they are doing their jobs.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Ilumine wrote:
I am still trying to figure out why SOCIETY needs to know every detail about a crime. Exactly how does not knowing the details of a crime negatively affect society (outside of what is needed to keep people safe in the immediate sense) or how knowing the details of a crime positively affect society (outside of what is needed to keep people safe in the immediate sense).

Since there isn't a public health or safety issue, other than wanting the gossip, there is nothing to see here.
???? They don't need every detail--but they certainly need to know IF a crime has been committed, or not.

We are paying the police and the courts. We have an absolute duty to ensure they are doing their jobs.

A statement from the Salisbury police:

'There was nothing to charge her with, no criminal action. She's getting the help she needs,'

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ilumine wrote:
I am still trying to figure out why SOCIETY needs to know every detail about a crime. Exactly how does not knowing the details of a crime negatively affect society (outside of what is needed to keep people safe in the immediate sense) or how knowing the details of a crime positively affect society (outside of what is needed to keep people safe in the immediate sense).

Since there isn't a public health or safety issue, other than wanting the gossip, there is nothing to see here.
???? They don't need every detail--but they certainly need to know IF a crime has been committed, or not.

We are paying the police and the courts. We have an absolute duty to ensure they are doing their jobs.
A statement from the Salisbury police:

'There was nothing to charge her with, no criminal action. She's getting the help she needs,'

Then that's fine as long as they investigated.

Ilumine · Regular

huskerbb wrote:
Ilumine wrote:
I am still trying to figure out why SOCIETY needs to know every detail about a crime. Exactly how does not knowing the details of a crime negatively affect society (outside of what is needed to keep people safe in the immediate sense) or how knowing the details of a crime positively affect society (outside of what is needed to keep people safe in the immediate sense).

Since there isn't a public health or safety issue, other than wanting the gossip, there is nothing to see here.
???? They don't need every detail--but they certainly need to know IF a crime has been committed, or not.

We are paying the police and the courts. We have an absolute duty to ensure they are doing their jobs.

You do not need to know the details of what happens to ensure that they did or did not do their jobs.

huskerbb · Guru

Ilumine wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ilumine wrote:
I am still trying to figure out why SOCIETY needs to know every detail about a crime. Exactly how does not knowing the details of a crime negatively affect society (outside of what is needed to keep people safe in the immediate sense) or how knowing the details of a crime positively affect society (outside of what is needed to keep people safe in the immediate sense).

Since there isn't a public health or safety issue, other than wanting the gossip, there is nothing to see here.
???? They don't need every detail--but they certainly need to know IF a crime has been committed, or not.

We are paying the police and the courts. We have an absolute duty to ensure they are doing their jobs.

You do not need to know the details of what happens to ensure that they did or did not do their jobs.

???? Where did I say that all the details needed to be known? You QUOTED the part where I said "they don't need every detail"--or can't you read?