TOTALLY GEEKED!

Ohfour · Hooker

RE: MICHIGAN POLICE SEIZE KIDS FROM FAMILY FOR ”CAMPING”

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

msrock wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
msrock wrote:
I would love to do what they did for a summer, or at least a month. Seems like a great learning experience all around.
Not me. I can't think of anything I'd hate more. Bugs & no A/C. I'd be miserable.
I get miserable going to work everyday and being such a slave to my life. I love cutting myself off from the world when I can. Sure, there's some downsides, but I really need to get out of the daily rut. It just becomes so damn monotonous. I'm feeling it right now. ugh.

Oh I totally feel you on that. My job is very monotonous. Mounds of freaking paper. Fill out this questionnaire, ok based on said answers we now require you to fill out a supplemental application. Some days I just want to light my desk on fire. When I hit the wall I just do a staycation at home & never leave the house. I just unwind with a few books & chick tv.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Ohfour wrote:
Well, after that Yellowstone trip, I will never camp again. EVER. It's was OK for a little while, but I would never want to do it again. We have the lake house. It's out in the middle of nowhere, so we get the feel, but with indoor plumbing and electricity. And AC.

Packing my bags tonight!

DemoniaD · Senior Member

Party at Ohfours' lake house?

I'm in!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

TrudyML wrote:
I was allowed to run with scissors. Just saying.

So even as a child, you were OUT OF CONTROL????

flan

msrock · Guru

DemoniaD wrote:
Party at Ohfours' lake house?

I'm in!

Sure! smile

Ohfour · Hooker

Come on! Headed there Friday! biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I hate anyone who has a LAKE HOUSE...it's the principle of the thing...

flan

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

OMG - how fun would a meet up at the lake house bee?!? G might want to steer clear with a bunch of drunk Geek girls hanging out.

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
I hate anyone who has a LAKE HOUSE...it's the principle of the thing...

flan

It's really not all that. 1 BR, 1 BA, Kitchen, living/sun room. It's rather small, but we like it...

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
The second article is much better. Like Lindley says the first one was very flaky. They should have kept their mouths shut about what they were doing though.
Why? They didn't do anything wrong! Should I not have said we were going camping for 3 weeks? I was excited. Seems like they were too...
My point is that they were apparently talking to the wrong person. I would have no problem telling people I trust. I don't announce my business to the whole damn world. And if I go run an errand and leave my kids alone I don't make sure I tell the person at the store and everyone else. Sharing exciting news with your friends is one thing. I think that's why society has a problem these days. People feel like they need to share every detail of their life with every stranger along the way.

You don't know that they told anyone. More nonsense conjecture.

Lindley · Guru

Lexxy wrote:
Lindley wrote:
The first and last time I went camping my son was 2 years old. He is 29 years old now. The food was good if I remember right. I like room service. food taste good to on pretty table cloths, on a lanai overlooking the ocean.
We can "go camping" together at a nice resort!

Sounds like a good idea.. The roughing part is ordering lunch on the beach.

msrock · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I hate anyone who has a LAKE HOUSE...it's the principle of the thing...

flan
It's really not all that. 1 BR, 1 BA, Kitchen, living/sun room. It's rather small, but we like it...

Sounds good to me. I can pitch a tent outside. lol.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Lindley wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
Lindley wrote:
The first and last time I went camping my son was 2 years old. He is 29 years old now. The food was good if I remember right. I like room service. food taste good to on pretty table cloths, on a lanai overlooking the ocean.
We can "go camping" together at a nice resort!
Sounds like a good idea.. The roughing part is ordering lunch on the beach.

Or getting sand blown into your adult beverage.

Lindley · Guru

Lexxy wrote:
Lindley wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
Lindley wrote:
The first and last time I went camping my son was 2 years old. He is 29 years old now. The food was good if I remember right. I like room service. food taste good to on pretty table cloths, on a lanai overlooking the ocean.
We can "go camping" together at a nice resort!
Sounds like a good idea.. The roughing part is ordering lunch on the beach.
Or getting sand blown into your adult beverage.

Now that would be roughing it.

DemoniaD · Senior Member

msrock wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I hate anyone who has a LAKE HOUSE...it's the principle of the thing...

flan
It's really not all that. 1 BR, 1 BA, Kitchen, living/sun room. It's rather small, but we like it...
Sounds good to me. I can pitch a tent outside. lol.

I've got a couple tents I can bring! And some Jack Daniels..........

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Christ, when I was 7 I'd take our three wheeler and go fishing with the neighbor kid and he was only 5.
And WHAT would have happened if there had been a serious accident?
flan
Nothing like that ever happens in Nebraska.
More kids get killed riding in cars with their parents or other adults than any other type of accident. Unless you are going to quit driving your kids around, you are putting them in FAR more danger than I ever was.
A 7-year-old on a three wheeler? No common sense, imo.
flan

You are full of crap. They have motorcycle racing leagues for kids starting younger than that. They rarely have any accidents. My cousins kids have been in it for at least 5 years and there hasn't been anything more serious than a broken arm in that entire time.

this is what I mean. you and others like you think you have to be in everybody's business. You can't let other people do what they want to do. you subscribe to a group think mentality.

again, if your threshold for "common sense" is the probability of an accident--then you are displaying way less common sense by driving your kids around.

Ohfour · Hooker

DemoniaD wrote:
msrock wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I hate anyone who has a LAKE HOUSE...it's the principle of the thing...

flan
It's really not all that. 1 BR, 1 BA, Kitchen, living/sun room. It's rather small, but we like it...
Sounds good to me. I can pitch a tent outside. lol.
I've got a couple tents I can bring! And some Jack Daniels..........

You people know me too well... wink wink wink

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Christ, when I was 7 I'd take our three wheeler and go fishing with the neighbor kid and he was only 5.
And WHAT would have happened if there had been a serious accident?
flan
Nothing like that ever happens in Nebraska.
More kids get killed riding in cars with their parents or other adults than any other type of accident. Unless you are going to quit driving your kids around, you are putting them in FAR more danger than I ever was.
A 7-year-old on a three wheeler? No common sense, imo.
flan
Plenty of common sense. It's called living.
He was also fishing. Hooks and water and oh my god out side.

Apparently watching TV and playing video games are more appropriate activities.

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Christ, when I was 7 I'd take our three wheeler and go fishing with the neighbor kid and he was only 5.
And WHAT would have happened if there had been a serious accident?
flan
Nothing like that ever happens in Nebraska.
More kids get killed riding in cars with their parents or other adults than any other type of accident. Unless you are going to quit driving your kids around, you are putting them in FAR more danger than I ever was.
A 7-year-old on a three wheeler? No common sense, imo.
flan
Plenty of common sense. It's called living.
He was also fishing. Hooks and water and oh my god out side.

Because YOUR definition of "living" is the only one that counts...
flan

You are the one who is trying to impose your view on everyone else. You would be the one calling CPS.

DemoniaD · Senior Member

Ohfour wrote:
DemoniaD wrote:
msrock wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I hate anyone who has a LAKE HOUSE...it's the principle of the thing...

flan
It's really not all that. 1 BR, 1 BA, Kitchen, living/sun room. It's rather small, but we like it...
Sounds good to me. I can pitch a tent outside. lol.
I've got a couple tents I can bring! And some Jack Daniels..........
You people know me too well...

If you like sweet tea, the JD honey goes good in it.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Christ, when I was 7 I'd take our three wheeler and go fishing with the neighbor kid and he was only 5.
And WHAT would have happened if there had been a serious accident?
flan
Nothing like that ever happens in Nebraska.
More kids get killed riding in cars with their parents or other adults than any other type of accident. Unless you are going to quit driving your kids around, you are putting them in FAR more danger than I ever was.
A 7-year-old on a three wheeler? No common sense, imo.
flan
Plenty of common sense. It's called living.
He was also fishing. Hooks and water and oh my god out side.

Because YOUR definition of "living" is the only one that counts...
flan
You are the one who is trying to impose your view on everyone else. You would be the one calling CPS.

Nope, I could not care less what you did as a child OR what you allowed your kids to do...

But don't make assumptions about MY children.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Regarding ownership - they were likely buying it on a land contract, so the deed was still in the "owner's" name.

And I agree fully with this -

They added, “Taking children from families needs to be limited to clear cases of neglect and abuse. It should be every parent’s right to raise their children as they see fit, unless the government can prove that what the parent is doing is actually harming the child.”

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Regarding ownership - they were likely buying it on a land contract, so the deed was still in the "owner's" name.

And I agree fully with this -

They added, “Taking children from families needs to be limited to clear cases of neglect and abuse. It should be every parent’s right to raise their children as they see fit, unless the government can prove that what the parent is doing is actually harming the child.”

I think this is the crux of the problem. I never want to live in a world where no one gives a chit about anyone else. Where no one ever watches out for anyone else. Maybe I'm the minority on the board and I don't care if I am. But if I see strange people moving a tv out of my neighbors house while they're at work you damn well better believe I'm going to find out what's going on. Maybe it's innocent. And if it is then innocent people don't get upset because you were looking out for them. Thieves do.

The problem here wasn't someone reporting it but the police jumping the guns and calling out CPS. And then CPS ripping the kids out without finding out what's going on. I do not understand what CPS is all about. We hear story after story after story of kids being abused and CPS going out and doing nothing and then you hear a story like this. It really makes you scratch your head.

SS's SF punched him in the head, choked him, and punched his three week old sister in the head. She spent the night in NICU. The police were called for domestic violence because he was also beating on mom and grandma. When CPS came out they said, and I quote, "Unless something is broken or marks are left we won't do anything." Amazing.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Regarding ownership - they were likely buying it on a land contract, so the deed was still in the "owner's" name.

And I agree fully with this -

They added, “Taking children from families needs to be limited to clear cases of neglect and abuse. It should be every parent’s right to raise their children as they see fit, unless the government can prove that what the parent is doing is actually harming the child.”

I think this is the crux of the problem. I never want to live in a world where no one gives a chit about anyone else. Where no one ever watches out for anyone else. Maybe I'm the minority on the board and I don't care if I am. But if I see strange people moving a tv out of my neighbors house while they're at work you damn well better believe I'm going to find out what's going on. Maybe it's innocent. And if it is then innocent people don't get upset because you were looking out for them. Thieves do.
The problem here wasn't someone reporting it but the police jumping the guns and calling out CPS. And then CPS ripping the kids out without finding out what's going on. I do not understand what CPS is all about. We hear story after story after story of kids being abused and CPS going out and doing nothing and then you hear a story like this. It really makes you scratch your head.
SS's SF punched him in the head, choked him, and punched his three week old sister in the head. She spent the night in NICU. The police were called for domestic violence because he was also beating on mom and grandma. When CPS came out they said, and I quote, "Unless something is broken or marks are left we won't do anything." Amazing.

I agree with you...Remember the bus driver who rescued the kidnapped boy? He could have just turned his head the other way.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Calling because you are worried about a group of kids apparently alone is fine. CPS taking them in this situation was not. Once investigated, it should have gone away - not ended up with the kids in foster care.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Calling because you are worried about a group of kids apparently alone is fine. CPS taking them in this situation was not. Once investigated, it should have gone away - not ended up with the kids in foster care.

I agree with you. And that's what I'm saying. There's nothing wrong with calling. I think the police and CPS handled it wrong.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

But this wasn't a case that should have been started in the first place.

No one should have called in the first place.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
But this wasn't a case that should have been started in the first place.

No one should have called in the first place.

Remember that when you've fallen and can't get up and nobody bothers to check on you.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

But that is not what this was. This was a family camping. No one doing anything else.

No one was in danger. At any point in time.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
But that is not what this was. This was a family camping. No one doing anything else.

No one was in danger. At any point in time.

The point is Lily that people saw kids alone in the woods. They didn't know if they had taken their siblings and run away, or if parents had abandoned them there.

Kind of like, if you are living alone and your neighbors don't KNOW that you've fallen - they just know they haven't seen you in a while. But, they don't need to call or check because they don't KNOW and they should mind their own business. evileye

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
But that is not what this was. This was a family camping. No one doing anything else.

No one was in danger. At any point in time.
The point is Lily that people saw kids alone in the woods. They didn't know if they had taken their siblings and run away, or if parents had abandoned them there.

Kind of like, if you are living alone and your neighbors don't KNOW that you've fallen - they just know they haven't seen you in a while. But, they don't need to call or check because they don't KNOW and they should mind their own business.

The big difference is the parents were there that morning. They had been there for days.

I think it was more personal. Someone trying to cause trouble for the family.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

O4 I will come to the lake house, but need the 2nd bedroom, I have bad childhood memories of camping with my family. However,I do campfires, including cooking on the campfire. And I will bring Jack.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
But that is not what this was. This was a family camping. No one doing anything else.

No one was in danger. At any point in time.
The point is Lily that people saw kids alone in the woods. They didn't know if they had taken their siblings and run away, or if parents had abandoned them there.

Kind of like, if you are living alone and your neighbors don't KNOW that you've fallen - they just know they haven't seen you in a while. But, they don't need to call or check because they don't KNOW and they should mind their own business.

Then wait three hours--and then you would know.

You don't call police as a first option unless you seem some kid physically hurt or in imminent danger such as in a hot, locked car.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
But this wasn't a case that should have been started in the first place.

No one should have called in the first place.
Remember that when you've fallen and can't get up and nobody bothers to check on you.

"Checking on" is VASTLY different from calling in the police or CPS when it is WHOLLY UNNECESSARY. Not remotely the same thing.

A good Samaritan here could have easily went and asked the kids--"hey, are your parents around"? If they answer is we've been here two weeks by ourselves--then maybe you do more. If the answer is "they are in town getting groceries or whatever"--the MYOFB.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Calling because you are worried about a group of kids apparently alone is fine. CPS taking them in this situation was not. Once investigated, it should have gone away - not ended up with the kids in foster care.

You can't be serious. This is what almost ALWAYS happens. Pretty much EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

This is EXACTLY what you are going to get if you call in the authorities. You are CHOOSING that by making the call.

To sit back and say "they handled it wrong" is just stupid when you KNOW DAMN WELL how they will handle it. And if you don't know this is how it is usually handled, then you are far too stupid to be making any decisions regarding the welfare of others.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Regarding ownership - they were likely buying it on a land contract, so the deed was still in the "owner's" name.

And I agree fully with this -

They added, “Taking children from families needs to be limited to clear cases of neglect and abuse. It should be every parent’s right to raise their children as they see fit, unless the government can prove that what the parent is doing is actually harming the child.”

I think this is the crux of the problem. I never want to live in a world where no one gives a chit about anyone else. Where no one ever watches out for anyone else. Maybe I'm the minority on the board and I don't care if I am. But if I see strange people moving a tv out of my neighbors house while they're at work you damn well better believe I'm going to find out what's going on. Maybe it's innocent. And if it is then innocent people don't get upset because you were looking out for them. Thieves do.
The problem here wasn't someone reporting it but the police jumping the guns and calling out CPS. And then CPS ripping the kids out without finding out what's going on. I do not understand what CPS is all about. We hear story after story after story of kids being abused and CPS going out and doing nothing and then you hear a story like this. It really makes you scratch your head.
SS's SF punched him in the head, choked him, and punched his three week old sister in the head. She spent the night in NICU. The police were called for domestic violence because he was also beating on mom and grandma. When CPS came out they said, and I quote, "Unless something is broken or marks are left we won't do anything." Amazing.

No. The problem here is that you want to be a busybody. There are a HUNDRED ways to handle this WITHOUT involving the authorities--chief of which would be to, you know, actually TALK to the kids and/or their parents.

The difference here is that while I am critical of other people's parenting decisions--I would NEVER call the police just because I don't agree with them.

You and others would do exactly that--ONLY because you disagree with their decision.

There was no kid being hurt here. They weren't abandoned which a cursory question or two could have easily determined. There was no threat, no danger.

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Christ, when I was 7 I'd take our three wheeler and go fishing with the neighbor kid and he was only 5.
And WHAT would have happened if there had been a serious accident?
flan
Nothing like that ever happens in Nebraska.
More kids get killed riding in cars with their parents or other adults than any other type of accident. Unless you are going to quit driving your kids around, you are putting them in FAR more danger than I ever was.
A 7-year-old on a three wheeler? No common sense, imo.
flan
Plenty of common sense. It's called living.
He was also fishing. Hooks and water and oh my god out side.

Because YOUR definition of "living" is the only one that counts...
flan
You are the one who is trying to impose your view on everyone else. You would be the one calling CPS.
Nope, I could not care less what you did as a child OR what you allowed your kids to do...
But don't make assumptions about MY children.
flan

Bull ****.

The difference here is that I wouldn't call the cops on you even though I disagree with your parenting decisions. You and others would not extend the same courtesy to everyone else.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Just move here. We had a lady leave her 20 month old in a running car for over an hour while she went and had lunch. Police were called, they found mamma and decided she didn't put baby in danger so they let her go. People on FB said they saw her doing shots in a bar. She claims she checked on kid periodically but seriously. The car was NOT in her view from the restaurant. But no problem here.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Christ, when I was 7 I'd take our three wheeler and go fishing with the neighbor kid and he was only 5.
And WHAT would have happened if there had been a serious accident?
flan
Nothing like that ever happens in Nebraska.
More kids get killed riding in cars with their parents or other adults than any other type of accident. Unless you are going to quit driving your kids around, you are putting them in FAR more danger than I ever was.
A 7-year-old on a three wheeler? No common sense, imo.
flan
Plenty of common sense. It's called living.
He was also fishing. Hooks and water and oh my god out side.

Because YOUR definition of "living" is the only one that counts...
flan
You are the one who is trying to impose your view on everyone else. You would be the one calling CPS.
Nope, I could not care less what you did as a child OR what you allowed your kids to do...
But don't make assumptions about MY children.
flan
Bull ****.
The difference here is that I wouldn't call the cops on you even though I disagree with your parenting decisions. You and others would not extend the same courtesy to everyone else.

WHEN DID I SAY I WOULD CALL THE COPS?

flan

msrock · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
But that is not what this was. This was a family camping. No one doing anything else.

No one was in danger. At any point in time.
The point is Lily that people saw kids alone in the woods. They didn't know if they had taken their siblings and run away, or if parents had abandoned them there.

Kind of like, if you are living alone and your neighbors don't KNOW that you've fallen - they just know they haven't seen you in a while. But, they don't need to call or check because they don't KNOW and they should mind their own business.

Why didn't they just walk over and talk to the kids? Get off your cellphone and actually communicate.

msrock · Guru

Well, I see now that Husker already addressed what I just posted. I guess we agree on something.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I don't know how CPS is in all your states but here it's not worth chit. I know. We've dealt with them over my SS. They don't just rip kids away for no reason HERE. Trust me on this. My SS was punched in the head and choked by his SF. SF punched his three week old daughter and put her in NICU overnight for observation. CPS has said unless he breaks a bone or leaves a huge noticeable bruise they won't do anything. And I've heard other stories just like this. When the police talked to us they said they are REQUIRED to call CPS even though they hate doing so because CPS does NOTHING.

msrock · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I don't know how CPS is in all your states but here it's not worth chit. I know. We've dealt with them over my SS. They don't just rip kids away for no reason HERE. Trust me on this. My SS was punched in the head and choked by his SF. SF punched his three week old daughter and put her in NICU overnight for observation. CPS has said unless he breaks a bone or leaves a huge noticeable bruise they won't do anything. And I've heard other stories just like this. When the police talked to us they said they are REQUIRED to call CPS even though they hate doing so because CPS does NOTHING.

If that happened to my step daughters, they wouldn't spend another night in that house. They can take me to court. And btw... both of my step-daughters have moved in and are living with us because they can't stand their step dad. No courts involved. It was their decision and we all agreed it was the right one. I would not wait a minute for CPS to rule on that.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

msrock wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I don't know how CPS is in all your states but here it's not worth chit. I know. We've dealt with them over my SS. They don't just rip kids away for no reason HERE. Trust me on this. My SS was punched in the head and choked by his SF. SF punched his three week old daughter and put her in NICU overnight for observation. CPS has said unless he breaks a bone or leaves a huge noticeable bruise they won't do anything. And I've heard other stories just like this. When the police talked to us they said they are REQUIRED to call CPS even though they hate doing so because CPS does NOTHING.
If that happened to my step daughters, they wouldn't spend another night in that house. They can take me to court. And btw... both of my step-daughters have moved in and are living with us because they can't stand their step dad. No courts involved. It was their decision and we all agreed it was the right one. I would not wait a minute for CPS to rule on that.

Well, taking a non custodial child is called parental kidnapping and carries a hefty jail sentence.

msrock · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
msrock wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I don't know how CPS is in all your states but here it's not worth chit. I know. We've dealt with them over my SS. They don't just rip kids away for no reason HERE. Trust me on this. My SS was punched in the head and choked by his SF. SF punched his three week old daughter and put her in NICU overnight for observation. CPS has said unless he breaks a bone or leaves a huge noticeable bruise they won't do anything. And I've heard other stories just like this. When the police talked to us they said they are REQUIRED to call CPS even though they hate doing so because CPS does NOTHING.
If that happened to my step daughters, they wouldn't spend another night in that house. They can take me to court. And btw... both of my step-daughters have moved in and are living with us because they can't stand their step dad. No courts involved. It was their decision and we all agreed it was the right one. I would not wait a minute for CPS to rule on that.
Well, taking a non custodial child is called parental kidnapping and carries a hefty jail sentence.

Not when you have joint custody and the kids and their mother agreed that we would be the better home. They just moved in. It never went to court. As far as the world knows, the oldest still lives with their mom so she could finish school there. We provided transportation and they don't know any different. My fiance's ex wife actually went and took the youngest and enrolled her in our school district. Haven't had any problems whatsoever.

-- Edited by msrock on Tuesday 16th of June 2015 08:17:37 PM

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

I find it odd that the police conveniently came during the short period of time the parents were gone. Couldn't they have come to talk to the parents while they were there earlier? Nah, the cops hit a small window of time. I smell a set up by a busy body.

IMHO, someone was spying on them and waiting for the right time to call the cops and CPS. Timing is everything.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

And please don't lecture me on what we should or shouldn't do. She would have petitioned to have my DH thrown in jail in a heartbeat. CPS said there was no danger. We saw three different lawyers who all said if CPS won't do anything it's going to be hard. The police hate him but every time they arrest him for domestic violence he always rolls over on another drug dealer and gets off. He hasn't hit the kids in a few years now. But now he beats up on SS's mom regularly. Every time she (and in the past the kids) got hit she'd leave for a few days. The lawyers said you can't get immediate custody when she kicks him out because the danger is no longer there. Plus, the judge that we have to petition for custody doesn't believe men should have custody of kids. He believes on mothers are fit to raise kids. He will not award kids to their fathers unless the mom is no longer in the picture. All of this sucks but all of it is the system we deal with.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

just Czech wrote:
I find it odd that the police conveniently came during the short period of time the parents were gone. Couldn't they have come to talk to the parents while they were there earlier? Nah, the cops hit a small window of time. I smell a set up by a busy body.

IMHO, someone was spying on them and waiting for the right time to call the cops and CPS. Timing is everything.

Me too. I think it was personal.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

msrock wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
msrock wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I don't know how CPS is in all your states but here it's not worth chit. I know. We've dealt with them over my SS. They don't just rip kids away for no reason HERE. Trust me on this. My SS was punched in the head and choked by his SF. SF punched his three week old daughter and put her in NICU overnight for observation. CPS has said unless he breaks a bone or leaves a huge noticeable bruise they won't do anything. And I've heard other stories just like this. When the police talked to us they said they are REQUIRED to call CPS even though they hate doing so because CPS does NOTHING.
If that happened to my step daughters, they wouldn't spend another night in that house. They can take me to court. And btw... both of my step-daughters have moved in and are living with us because they can't stand their step dad. No courts involved. It was their decision and we all agreed it was the right one. I would not wait a minute for CPS to rule on that.
Well, taking a non custodial child is called parental kidnapping and carries a hefty jail sentence.
Not when you have joint custody and the kids and their mother agreed that we would be the better home. They just moved in. It never went to court. As far as the world knows, the oldest still lives with their mom so she could finish school there. We provided transportation and they don't know any different. My fiance's ex wife actually went and took the youngest and enrolled her in our school district. Haven't had any problems whatsoever.

-- Edited by msrock on Tuesday 16th of June 2015 08:17:37 PM

Well, WE don't have joint custody and my ex pays almost two grand a month in child support so she has no intentions of just giving him up. She is the custodial parent. So our situations are vastly different.