TOTALLY GEEKED!

Mellow Momma wrote:

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Camping to me is when there is no room service in our hotel.

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msrock wrote:

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People need to handle things on their own. The last thing you ever want is courts involved. Do you really want to leave your children's fate up to a court? I don't. I've never had to deal with CPS. And I don't plan on it. The people that know best are the parents. Figure it out. I would not allow my child or my step child to live in an abusive situation/home so if it came down to that, I'd risk jail time.

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 It's always easy to say what you'd do when you're not in that situation.  Kidnapping is a FELONY.  Try ever getting a job after you kidnap your kid and end up in jail.  Because you don't just take them and go back to your house and live your life happily ever after.  You have to live like a criminal.  On the run constantly.  And that's such a good life for a kid.  Yep, judge away.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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msrock wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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msrock wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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I don't know how CPS is in all your states but here it's not worth chit. I know. We've dealt with them over my SS. They don't just rip kids away for no reason HERE. Trust me on this. My SS was punched in the head and choked by his SF. SF punched his three week old daughter and put her in NICU overnight for observation. CPS has said unless he breaks a bone or leaves a huge noticeable bruise they won't do anything. And I've heard other stories just like this. When the police talked to us they said they are REQUIRED to call CPS even though they hate doing so because CPS does NOTHING.

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If that happened to my step daughters, they wouldn't spend another night in that house.  They can take me to court.  And btw... both of my step-daughters have moved in and are living with us because they can't stand their step dad.  No courts involved.  It was their decision and we all agreed it was the right one.  I would not wait a minute for CPS to rule on that.

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 Well, taking a non custodial child is called parental kidnapping and carries a hefty jail sentence.

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Not when you have joint custody and the kids and their mother agreed that we would be the better home.  They just moved in.  It never went to court.  As far as the world knows, the oldest still lives with their mom so she could finish school there.  We provided transportation and they don't know any different.  My fiance's ex wife actually went and took the youngest and enrolled her in our school district.  Haven't had any problems whatsoever.

-- Edited by msrock on Tuesday 16th of June 2015 08:17:37 PM

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 Well, WE don't have joint custody and my ex pays almost two grand a month in child support so she has no intentions of just giving him up.  She is the custodial parent.  So our situations are vastly different.

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Well if your step son is getting punched and choked by his step dad, you can always go to court and ask/fight for custody.  In your case, I would recommend that.  Seriously!   He's at the age that he can verbalize where he wants to be.  That 2 grand a month would be gone if you were awarded custody.  I don't get it.  That kid would be living with me.  I wouldn't be waiting for CPS to do something.

msrock wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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msrock wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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msrock wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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I don't know how CPS is in all your states but here it's not worth chit. I know. We've dealt with them over my SS. They don't just rip kids away for no reason HERE. Trust me on this. My SS was punched in the head and choked by his SF. SF punched his three week old daughter and put her in NICU overnight for observation. CPS has said unless he breaks a bone or leaves a huge noticeable bruise they won't do anything. And I've heard other stories just like this. When the police talked to us they said they are REQUIRED to call CPS even though they hate doing so because CPS does NOTHING.

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If that happened to my step daughters, they wouldn't spend another night in that house.  They can take me to court.  And btw... both of my step-daughters have moved in and are living with us because they can't stand their step dad.  No courts involved.  It was their decision and we all agreed it was the right one.  I would not wait a minute for CPS to rule on that.

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 Well, taking a non custodial child is called parental kidnapping and carries a hefty jail sentence.

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Not when you have joint custody and the kids and their mother agreed that we would be the better home.  They just moved in.  It never went to court.  As far as the world knows, the oldest still lives with their mom so she could finish school there.  We provided transportation and they don't know any different.  My fiance's ex wife actually went and took the youngest and enrolled her in our school district.  Haven't had any problems whatsoever.

-- Edited by msrock on Tuesday 16th of June 2015 08:17:37 PM

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 Well, WE don't have joint custody and my ex pays almost two grand a month in child support so she has no intentions of just giving him up.  She is the custodial parent.  So our situations are vastly different.

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Well if your step son is getting punched and choked by his step dad, you can always go to court and ask/fight for custody.  In your case, I would recommend that.  Seriously!   He's at the age that he can verbalize where he wants to be.  That 2 grand a month would be gone if you were awarded custody.  I don't get it.  That kid would be living with me.  I wouldn't be waiting for CPS to do something.

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 He hasn't been hit in three years.  The last time he was slapped in the face we had him in counseling.  The counselor told his mom if she didn't put a stop to it she would make sure she lost custody of the kids.  He has not been touched since then and, like I said, that was three years ago.  We can't go to court about something that happened three years ago.  And we tried everything we could to get custody of him when all that was going on.  WE TRIED.  It didn't work.  I'm telling you.  He would hit someone and then she'd leave and tell her lawyer it was over and she'd do a cooling off period and then get back with him.  Once there is no threat you can't do anything.  He only hits HER now and technically hitting the mother is not child abuse. 

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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I don't know how CPS is in all your states but here it's not worth chit. I know. We've dealt with them over my SS. They don't just rip kids away for no reason HERE. Trust me on this. My SS was punched in the head and choked by his SF. SF punched his three week old daughter and put her in NICU overnight for observation. CPS has said unless he breaks a bone or leaves a huge noticeable bruise they won't do anything. And I've heard other stories just like this. When the police talked to us they said they are REQUIRED to call CPS even though they hate doing so because CPS does NOTHING.

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Yet your first reaction to a situation like this would be to involve them????  Absurd.  

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Christ, when I was 7 I'd take our three wheeler and go fishing with the neighbor kid and he was only 5.

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 And WHAT would have happened if there had been a serious accident?

flan

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 Nothing like that ever happens in Nebraska.

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 More kids get killed riding in cars with their parents or other adults than any other type of accident.  Unless you are going to quit driving your kids around, you are putting them in FAR more danger than I ever was.

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 A 7-year-old on a three wheeler? No common sense, imo.

flan

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 Plenty of common sense. It's called living.

He was also fishing. Hooks and water and oh my god out side. 

 

 

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 Because YOUR definition of "living" is the only one that counts...

flan

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 You are the one who is trying to impose your view on everyone else.  You would be the one calling CPS.  

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 Nope, I could not care less what you did as a child OR what you allowed your kids to do...

But don't make assumptions about MY children.

flan

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Bull ****.  

The difference here is that I wouldn't call the cops on you even though I disagree with your parenting decisions.  You and others would not extend the same courtesy to everyone else.  

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 WHEN DID I SAY I WOULD CALL THE COPS?

flan

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 That is the argument here.  You are either on the side of those who involved the authorities--or you aren't.  You've been arguing on the side of those who would involve them this entire thread.

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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I don't know how CPS is in all your states but here it's not worth chit. I know. We've dealt with them over my SS. They don't just rip kids away for no reason HERE. Trust me on this. My SS was punched in the head and choked by his SF. SF punched his three week old daughter and put her in NICU overnight for observation. CPS has said unless he breaks a bone or leaves a huge noticeable bruise they won't do anything. And I've heard other stories just like this. When the police talked to us they said they are REQUIRED to call CPS even though they hate doing so because CPS does NOTHING.

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Yet your first reaction to a situation like this would be to involve them????  Absurd.  

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 I think YOU forget that police are mandatory reporters.  When they go out to a house where there is domestic violence they are required BY LAW to call CPS out.  Doesn't matter what I want or what anyone else wants. 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Unless they do. Like in this case.

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 This is an unusual case.  And because it is it made the news.  Go look through the daily papers.  You will find more cases of CPS doing nothing than them doing a knee jerk reaction like this.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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Most of the time CPS doesn't do chit.

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Oh bull.  We've seen variations of this scenario happen OVER AND OVER.  

Mellow Momma wrote:

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There was a story in the news today here about a toddler who died because CPS came out and looked around and did nothing.

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Sure, it happens.  I think we can all count on CPS to do exactly the wrong thing at the wrong time.

Which is EXACTLY why it's dumb to involve them most of the time.  When they should stay out of it--they don't.   When they could do something--they don't, so it didn't do any good to get them involved, anyway.   

Lawyerlady wrote:

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Look - there are times when CPS needs to be called and times when they don't. It's a balance, and sometimes people will be wrong. BUT, provided CPS has some actually sense, it is better to ere on the side of calling if you honestly think kids are in danger, than not. Unfortunately, CPS showed no sense in this particular instance.

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 CPS has no common sense.  Ever.  Let's start with that established fact.

yes, there are times when they are the only option, but it should be a LAST resort--not the first reaction.  In this case, there was no imminent danger to those children.  There were a hundred things that could have been done before or instead of calling the authorities, and all would have been better options.

erring on the side of calling is not a good plan in most cases because what any individual "honestly believes" may not be at all factual--like this case.

just Czech wrote:

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Shoot, ed. I play phone tag all the time and I have a cell phone!

I have no problem with turning the tech stuff off. It is a choice.

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Me too.  On a computer and phone all day.  Don't need it at home. 

ed11563 wrote:

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We're really spoiled by the fact that we have cell phones.

We can reach each other at any time, no matter where we are, no matter where the person we're reaching out to might be.

 

When my kids were little and went out to play "down the street", they were off the grid until they came home.

Now they're never off the grid. Neither am I.

Are YOU ever (or routinely) unreachable?

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 I ignore my phone all the time.  VM and text messages were created for a reason.  Leave a message and I will get back to you.  Just because my phone is blinking doesn't mean I have to do anything about it.