TOTALLY GEEKED!

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Oh and pretty well after a hiccup. Thanks for asking.

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 Except as much as you claim to be the best parent in the world and have taught her your wonderful "Christian" values she still ran off and had sex with someone outside of marriage.  So to say my friends parents failed her because she raped is really stupid.  Because if that's true then you obviously failed your own daughter. 

Oh and btw, having sex outside of marriage is not a hiccup.  It's sex.  You can put on a purity ring and pretend you're still a virgin but in reality you're not.

We used to get visits from these people with puppets too. I think they talked about peer pressure and stuff but I'm not real sure. They got boring quickly.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Oh and pretty well after a hiccup. Thanks for asking.

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 Except as much as you claim to be the best parent in the world and have taught her your wonderful "Christian" values she still ran off and had sex with someone outside of marriage.  So to say my friends parents failed her because she raped is really stupid.  Because if that's true then you obviously failed your own daughter. 

Oh and btw, having sex outside of marriage is not a hiccup.  It's sex.  You can put on a purity ring and pretend you're still a virgin but in reality you're not.

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 Whoa, where are this thread did Lily say anything like that about her daughter?  If not on this thread, isn't that personal info a violation of rules.  That is just mean.

DemoniaD wrote:

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We used to get visits from these people with puppets too. I think they talked about peer pressure and stuff but I'm not real sure. They got boring quickly.

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 Puppets should NOT be boring!!!

flan

I think so! SS did DARE this past year. I laughed when he told DH that he did drugs. They are teaching them that cigarettes, dip, and beer are all drugs. DH dips. He called DH a drug addict.

I've noticed that in the drug free campaigns I've seen lately, NJN. I'm waiting for soda to make the list.

DemoniaD wrote:

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Do they even have the DARE program anymore?


Flan, they shouldn't be but they were! Those people were a disgrace to puppeteers everywhere!

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 Yes. My aunt and uncle, retired deputies, head up the chapter in our county.

It has evolved and is pretty strong in its message.

They use a more straight forward approach now. 

 

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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Yes, the whole thing was staged. He staged her talking to people. He staged her talking to people on purpose. Not shop owners or police. That was the whole experiment. What would happen if she talked to strange people. No, she didn't yell and scream. She had no reason to feel unsafe because she knew it was an experiment and she was actually safe. She did try to get the attention of a couple of women but they all walked past her. There was a white woman she tried to stop who hurried by her. And a black woman who looked down at her sitting on the street and walked past her. Eh, it was an interesting video whether you believe it or not.

I really liked the guy who gave her the metro card. I also liked the two young guys who offered to call the police for her. I think most people are inherently good.

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I have vivid memories of a teenage girl sitting on a stone bench in front of Kings County Hospital, crying and shivering in a light snow storm, 

calling out " PLEASE HELP ME" as women of her color looked at her and kept walking. I believe she would have frozen to death if some random white guy hadn't helped her get inside where it was warm. I saw at least a dozen women look at her and keep walking.

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 Probably because those women saw her as a decoy and imagined someone around the corner ready to grab them.

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Oh and pretty well after a hiccup. Thanks for asking.

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 Except as much as you claim to be the best parent in the world and have taught her your wonderful "Christian" values she still ran off and had sex with someone outside of marriage.  So to say my friends parents failed her because she raped is really stupid.  Because if that's true then you obviously failed your own daughter. 

Oh and btw, having sex outside of marriage is not a hiccup.  It's sex.  You can put on a purity ring and pretend you're still a virgin but in reality you're not.

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 Whoa, where are this thread did Lily say anything like that about her daughter?  If not on this thread, isn't that personal info a violation of rules.  That is just mean.

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 ??????  If it was shared openly on the board, it is not private personal information and therefore there is no violation of the rules. 

Ok. I am going to address this ONCE.

I shared a very private family matter to get a point across on another thread.

I completely understand that made it fodder for discussion. And I also understood that some would try to use it as a weapon.

So congratulations. You proved me right.

Yes. My daughter made a mistake. She made a bad decision. She learned from it. Grew from it and has since made better decisions.

Yes. She is no longer a virgin.

She asked for forgiveness from God, me and herself. And she worked through a lot of confusion and came out a stronger person. Her relationship with God is stronger. Our relationship is stronger.

She also took the time, effort and steps to publicly make her intentions for the future known. She wears what looks like an engagement ring 24/7. It's a symbol of the promise she made to God and herself.

Now. I never defended what she did. I did stand beside her. I supported her and helped her through that tough time.

If any of you still feel the need to use this as some sort of weapon, well, go ahead. I can't stop you.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Ok. I am going to address this ONCE.

I shared a very private family matter to get a point across on another thread.

I completely understand that made it fodder for discussion. And I also understood that some would try to use it as a weapon.

So congratulations. You proved me right.

Yes. My daughter made a mistake. She made a bad decision. She learned from it. Grew from it and has since made better decisions.

Yes. She is no longer a virgin.

She asked for forgiveness from God, me and herself. And she worked through a lot of confusion and came out a stronger person. Her relationship with God is stronger. Our relationship is stronger.

She also took the time, effort and steps to publicly make her intentions for the future known. She wears what looks like an engagement ring 24/7. It's a symbol of the promise she made to God and herself.

Now. I never defended what she did. I did stand beside her. I supported her and helped her through that tough time.

If any of you still feel the need to use this as some sort of weapon, well, go ahead. I can't stop you.

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 I don't think it has anything to do with your daughter's choices.   The "weapon" is not being used against your daughter.  It's your know-it-all parental chastising and blaming girls for getting raped that pisses people off.

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 Ok. 

If you say so.

 

The OP is a video about a 10 yr old who can't find their mom.

I am not the only one to question the video.

I ask the purpose of it repeatedly.

And after a whole lot of deflecting, my daughter gets brought into the thread.

Now. That seems suspect to me.

I am not the one who brought NJNs friend into this thread. I commented on her post. Concerning this thread.

Everything I said on this thread was in context and already here.

So while bringing something from another thread is not against a rule.

It does show form.

So I will say again, a 10 yr old should know how to get help and a 20 yr old should know not to get in a car with a stranger.

Saying a 20 yr old should know better than get in a car with a stranger is not the same as saying they are to blame for being raped.

It also seems NJN has an extreme story to go with just about every thread. So....

lilyofcourse wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Rings don't plug holes....

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 No one said it did.

What do you suggest? You know, since you've raised a daughter.

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 Is she on birth control.  That would be my first suggestion.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Rings don't plug holes....

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 No one said it did.

What do you suggest? You know, since you've raised a daughter.

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 Is she on birth control.  That would be my first suggestion.

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 Yes. What else high and mighty? 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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If you think educating your children about stuff stops at age ten you're delusional. I feel really sorry for you. When my best friend was twenty she was walking down a highway to get to another friends house. A man in a very nice car offered her a ride. She said no and he gave her his business card. Showed her his phone and said if she was needing a ride she could always call someone. She tucked the business card in her pocket because the nice guy in the suit and nice car was nice. He locked her in, drove her to a secluded spot, and raped her twice. When he was done he pushed her out of the car and she walked to a gas station and called the police. Apparently this guy had a history of doing stuff like this. They called him the Business Card Rapist. Nothing on the business card was true. They never found him.

If you think you can stop educating your children at ten good luck. I wish you the best but you're delusional.

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 Ummm... ok.

So a 20 something friend of yours got in the car with a stranger but I'm crazy for thinking a 10 yr old these days would have a cell phone or know to go to a police officer or store clerk? 

Ok. Whatever.

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 I seriously doubt that a twenty year old today would not have a cell phone.  

 

Look, people do get hurt, raped, kidnapped or whatever by strangers--but it's not common.

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 I know, right? Of course that 20 something should have been taught at 10 not to get in the car with a stranger. 

Parenting 101 right there.

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 Yes Lily, it's all the parents fault.  They were bad parents unlike you who is perfect.

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 Well someone failed. 

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 Everyone makes mistakes.  We all failed at some time in our life. You have made mistakes in your life too.   A horrible incident in a young womans life does not mean the parents failed at being parents nor should the victim be condemned for  for the rest of her life.   I'm sure not one of us has always listen to everything our parents told us to.