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Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

RE: Toddler dies from untreated ear infection after 'parents refused treatment because they don't believe in modern medi

Ohfour · Hooker

Sweetness had horrible ear infections until she got tubes. Her doctor quit giving her antibiotics. And I just asked DD. Her doctor never warned her some something like this. Neither did my kids' doctor.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Despite the recommendations, none of us knows if a doctor would have prescribed antibiotics or not.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Many people choose to allow ear infections to clear on their own. Because usually they will. This complication is rare and could not be foreseen. And in fact, some ear infections are caused by viruses and can't be treated with antibiotics, anyway and sometimes it is hard to tell. Even the medical community debates using antibiotics regularly for ear infections so I do not think parents need to be charged with murder over it.
But they didn't bother to even find out what the situation was. The charges are appropriate.

Are you incapable of knowing what an ear infection is? I know when my kids have an ear infection every single time - I have never been wrong. If you don't want medicine for it - you don't have to go to a doctor.

Did you take your kids to the doctor for every cold? It could have been pneumonia, after all. Did you take your kid to the doctor for every headache? It might have been meninghitis.

People do not have to be clairvoyant. Hindsight is always 20/20.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
I find it amazing that some of the same people who give sympathy to parents who kill their kids by forgetting them in a car are the same ones that think not treating an ear infection with antibiotics is murder.
Two totally different situations. These parents didn't "forget" to take their child to a doctor.
flan
No. They were actually caring for her. She died of a freak spreading of a bacterial infection - not due to the actions of her parents.

With herbal remedies...

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Despite the recommendations, none of us knows if a doctor would have prescribed antibiotics or not.

flan

Believe it or not - parents have the right to decide not to give their kids anti-biotics for every little thing. It's BAD for them.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
I find it amazing that some of the same people who give sympathy to parents who kill their kids by forgetting them in a car are the same ones that think not treating an ear infection with antibiotics is murder.
Two totally different situations. These parents didn't "forget" to take their child to a doctor.
flan
No. They were actually caring for her. She died of a freak spreading of a bacterial infection - not due to the actions of her parents.
With herbal remedies...
flan

So? I treat sore throats with chai tea or honey or salt water gargles. What part of too many anti-biotics are bad for you don't you get? And an ear infection being deadly is virtually unheard of.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Despite the recommendations, none of us knows if a doctor would have prescribed antibiotics or not.

flan
Believe it or not - parents have the right to decide not to give their kids anti-biotics for every little thing. It's BAD for them.

This is a far cry from "every little thing..."

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Despite the recommendations, none of us knows if a doctor would have prescribed antibiotics or not.

flan
Believe it or not - parents have the right to decide not to give their kids anti-biotics for every little thing. It's BAD for them.
This is a far cry from "every little thing..."
flan

No it's not. It was an ear infection. When they realized it was more than that, they sought help.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Despite the recommendations, none of us knows if a doctor would have prescribed antibiotics or not.

flan
Believe it or not - parents have the right to decide not to give their kids anti-biotics for every little thing. It's BAD for them.
This is a far cry from "every little thing..."
flan

An ear infection? Bull. This is not normal.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
I find it amazing that some of the same people who give sympathy to parents who kill their kids by forgetting them in a car are the same ones that think not treating an ear infection with antibiotics is murder.
Two totally different situations. These parents didn't "forget" to take their child to a doctor.
flan
No. They were actually caring for her. She died of a freak spreading of a bacterial infection - not due to the actions of her parents.
With herbal remedies...
flan
So? I treat sore throats with chai tea or honey or salt water gargles. What part of too many anti-biotics are bad for you don't you get? And an ear infection being deadly is virtually unheard of.

Um, too many antibiotics wasn't the issue here. The issue was not enough. She would have LIVED had she gotten them.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Despite the recommendations, none of us knows if a doctor would have prescribed antibiotics or not.

flan
Believe it or not - parents have the right to decide not to give their kids anti-biotics for every little thing. It's BAD for them.

So...it's better to let your child die? Dying is good for them?

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
I find it amazing that some of the same people who give sympathy to parents who kill their kids by forgetting them in a car are the same ones that think not treating an ear infection with antibiotics is murder.
Two totally different situations. These parents didn't "forget" to take their child to a doctor.
flan
No. They were actually caring for her. She died of a freak spreading of a bacterial infection - not due to the actions of her parents.
With herbal remedies...
flan
So? I treat sore throats with chai tea or honey or salt water gargles. What part of too many anti-biotics are bad for you don't you get? And an ear infection being deadly is virtually unheard of.
Um, too many antibiotics wasn't the issue here. The issue was not enough. She would have LIVED had she gotten them.

So? This is nothing that millions of parents aren't doing every day. People die. It just happens. You can't predict every outcome.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Despite the recommendations, none of us knows if a doctor would have prescribed antibiotics or not.

flan
Believe it or not - parents have the right to decide not to give their kids anti-biotics for every little thing. It's BAD for them.
So...it's better to let your child die? Dying is good for them?

Nobody even thinks their child will die from an ear infection. Unforeseeable things happen sometimes - that doesn't mean it's murder.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
I find it amazing that some of the same people who give sympathy to parents who kill their kids by forgetting them in a car are the same ones that think not treating an ear infection with antibiotics is murder.

Not me. They should be charged in both situations.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Despite the recommendations, none of us knows if a doctor would have prescribed antibiotics or not.

flan
Believe it or not - parents have the right to decide not to give their kids anti-biotics for every little thing. It's BAD for them.
So...it's better to let your child die? Dying is good for them?
Nobody even thinks their child will die from an ear infection. Unforeseeable things happen sometimes - that doesn't mean it's murder.

This was preventable. They didn't even bother to get the situation assessed. I don't believe they ever would have despite what they say after the fact.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Despite the recommendations, none of us knows if a doctor would have prescribed antibiotics or not.

flan
Believe it or not - parents have the right to decide not to give their kids anti-biotics for every little thing. It's BAD for them.
So...it's better to let your child die? Dying is good for them?
Nobody even thinks their child will die from an ear infection. Unforeseeable things happen sometimes - that doesn't mean it's murder.
This was preventable. They didn't even bother to get the situation assessed. I don't believe they ever would have despite what they say after the fact.

Most people now-a-days don't. They did exactly what other have and would have done. This one just got out of control...

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Despite the recommendations, none of us knows if a doctor would have prescribed antibiotics or not.

flan
Believe it or not - parents have the right to decide not to give their kids anti-biotics for every little thing. It's BAD for them.
So...it's better to let your child die? Dying is good for them?
Nobody even thinks their child will die from an ear infection. Unforeseeable things happen sometimes - that doesn't mean it's murder.
This was preventable. They didn't even bother to get the situation assessed. I don't believe they ever would have despite what they say after the fact.
Most people now-a-days don't. They did exactly what other have and would have done. This one just got out of control...

No, they don't. People avoid the doctor's office if they can. They are required to wait forever and it's expensive. For a routine illness - many people don't go.

Ohfour · Hooker

People used to die from Chicken Pox too. That didn't stop MANY people from having Pox Parties, ensuring that their kids got Chicken Pox when it was the best time for them.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I have had my kids at the doctor, the doctor tell me their illness will run its course, give them the medicine. And then had to take them to the ER that night. The "just an ear infection" the doctor diagnosed was way more and the doctor missed it.

Heck, one was being treated monthly for strep throat AFTER tonsils were removed. Turned out it was a staph infection.

I don't blame these parents at all. This was a sad turn of events that anyone with a child has dealt with.

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Despite the recommendations, none of us knows if a doctor would have prescribed antibiotics or not.

flan
Believe it or not - parents have the right to decide not to give their kids anti-biotics for every little thing. It's BAD for them.
So...it's better to let your child die? Dying is good for them?
Nobody even thinks their child will die from an ear infection. Unforeseeable things happen sometimes - that doesn't mean it's murder.
This was preventable. They didn't even bother to get the situation assessed. I don't believe they ever would have despite what they say after the fact.
Most people now-a-days don't. They did exactly what other have and would have done. This one just got out of control...

And that was their mistake.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Despite the recommendations, none of us knows if a doctor would have prescribed antibiotics or not.

flan
Believe it or not - parents have the right to decide not to give their kids anti-biotics for every little thing. It's BAD for them.
So...it's better to let your child die? Dying is good for them?
Nobody even thinks their child will die from an ear infection. Unforeseeable things happen sometimes - that doesn't mean it's murder.
This was preventable. They didn't even bother to get the situation assessed. I don't believe they ever would have despite what they say after the fact.
Most people now-a-days don't. They did exactly what other have and would have done. This one just got out of control...
No, they don't. People avoid the doctor's office if they can. They are required to wait forever and it's expensive. For a routine illness - many people don't go.

Yeah. expensive. Apparently a child is not very valuable.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Despite the recommendations, none of us knows if a doctor would have prescribed antibiotics or not.

flan
Believe it or not - parents have the right to decide not to give their kids anti-biotics for every little thing. It's BAD for them.
So...it's better to let your child die? Dying is good for them?
Nobody even thinks their child will die from an ear infection. Unforeseeable things happen sometimes - that doesn't mean it's murder.
This was preventable. They didn't even bother to get the situation assessed. I don't believe they ever would have despite what they say after the fact.
Most people now-a-days don't. They did exactly what other have and would have done. This one just got out of control...
And that was their mistake.

A totally innocent one.

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Despite the recommendations, none of us knows if a doctor would have prescribed antibiotics or not.

flan
Believe it or not - parents have the right to decide not to give their kids anti-biotics for every little thing. It's BAD for them.
So...it's better to let your child die? Dying is good for them?
Nobody even thinks their child will die from an ear infection. Unforeseeable things happen sometimes - that doesn't mean it's murder.
This was preventable. They didn't even bother to get the situation assessed. I don't believe they ever would have despite what they say after the fact.
Most people now-a-days don't. They did exactly what other have and would have done. This one just got out of control...
And that was their mistake.
A totally innocent one.

The child died and it was wholly preventable. It wasnt some split second lapse,either. Not remotely innocent.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

My parents never took me to the doctor for an ear infection. Mom treated our ear aches with warm olive oil. Worked every single time. Did that make my parents negligent? Hell no.

I repeat, the AMA is recommending that anti-biotic's NOT be given for ear aches.

This was a RARE infection. What part of RARE is so hard to understand? Heck, a doctor would probably have missed it in the first place as a RARE infection. Good grief people.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

A child is dead so people just want someone to blame.

Ohfour · Hooker

My grandmother used to make me pee in a cup and then she poured it in my ear. I never went to the dr for an ear infection either...

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Despite the recommendations, none of us knows if a doctor would have prescribed antibiotics or not.

flan
Believe it or not - parents have the right to decide not to give their kids anti-biotics for every little thing. It's BAD for them.
So...it's better to let your child die? Dying is good for them?
Nobody even thinks their child will die from an ear infection. Unforeseeable things happen sometimes - that doesn't mean it's murder.
This was preventable. They didn't even bother to get the situation assessed. I don't believe they ever would have despite what they say after the fact.
Most people now-a-days don't. They did exactly what other have and would have done. This one just got out of control...
And that was their mistake.
A totally innocent one.
The child died and it was wholly preventable. It wasnt some split second lapse,either. Not remotely innocent.

Children die all the time from "wholly preventable" things. It's called life. Car accidents, trampolines, swimming pools, bicycles, the flu (even if they got a flu shot), asthsma attacks, getting strangled by cords from the blinds, smothering in the blankets.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

The chances of dying from an ear infection is less than 1 in one million WORLDWIDE. Worldwide being important because it shows it is still extremely rare even in countries without medical care.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Despite the recommendations, none of us knows if a doctor would have prescribed antibiotics or not.

flan
Believe it or not - parents have the right to decide not to give their kids anti-biotics for every little thing. It's BAD for them.
So...it's better to let your child die? Dying is good for them?
Nobody even thinks their child will die from an ear infection. Unforeseeable things happen sometimes - that doesn't mean it's murder.
This was preventable. They didn't even bother to get the situation assessed. I don't believe they ever would have despite what they say after the fact.
Most people now-a-days don't. They did exactly what other have and would have done. This one just got out of control...
And that was their mistake.
A totally innocent one.
The child died and it was wholly preventable. It wasnt some split second lapse,either. Not remotely innocent.

THEY NEVER TOOK THE CHILD TO A DOCTOR...EVER...not for vaccines, not for checkups.

That speaks to cause.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Let me get this straight, on one, mind your own business but on the other other hand tell them what they should have done.

Let's use common sense. How many deaths have you heard of due to ear infection?

This is the one and only time I have ever heard of.

And it wasn't the typical ear infection.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Let me get this straight, on one, mind your own business but on the other other hand tell them what they should have done.

Let's use common sense. How many deaths have you heard of due to ear infection?

This is the one and only time I have ever heard of.

And it wasn't the typical ear infection.

Excellent point, Lily.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Despite the recommendations, none of us knows if a doctor would have prescribed antibiotics or not.

flan
Believe it or not - parents have the right to decide not to give their kids anti-biotics for every little thing. It's BAD for them.
So...it's better to let your child die? Dying is good for them?
Nobody even thinks their child will die from an ear infection. Unforeseeable things happen sometimes - that doesn't mean it's murder.
This was preventable. They didn't even bother to get the situation assessed. I don't believe they ever would have despite what they say after the fact.
Most people now-a-days don't. They did exactly what other have and would have done. This one just got out of control...
And that was their mistake.
A totally innocent one.
The child died and it was wholly preventable. It wasnt some split second lapse,either. Not remotely innocent.
THEY NEVER TOOK THE CHILD TO A DOCTOR...EVER...not for vaccines, not for checkups.
That speaks to cause.
flan

They did not die of that. The kid did not get an ear infection because it wasn't vaccinated or hadn't had a well visit. The child died from an ear infection - which is virtually unheard of.

Ohfour · Hooker

They did not die of that. The kid did not get an ear infection because it wasn't vaccinated or hadn't had a well visit. The child died from an ear infection - which is virtually unheard of.

And something that 99.9% of ALL children get. Whether they see a doctor or not.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

My kids have had ear infections, complete with fever, dizziness and throwing up and the doctor not give antibiotic.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

DS1 had a few ear infections, DS2 never had one.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Ohfour wrote:
They did not die of that. The kid did not get an ear infection because it wasn't vaccinated or hadn't had a well visit. The child died from an ear infection - which is virtually unheard of.
And something that 99.9% of ALL children get. Whether they see a doctor or not.

And something that 99.9% of all children recover from without issue - whether they see a doctor or not.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
They did not die of that. The kid did not get an ear infection because it wasn't vaccinated or hadn't had a well visit. The child died from an ear infection - which is virtually unheard of.
And something that 99.9% of ALL children get. Whether they see a doctor or not.
And something that 99.9% of all children recover from without issue - whether they see a doctor or not.

Do you have a source for that statement?

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

Otitis media is an infection inside the ear caused by a bacteria. Occuring mainly in children often after catching a cold, otitis media can cause earache and temporary deafness. Sometimes treatment with antibiotics is needed. Severe recurrent infections can permanently damage the hearing mechanism. Sometimes infection gets into the nearby bone (mastoiditis) and occassionally this is a cause of meningitis, which can be fatal.

Otitis media caused 0.0063% of all deaths worldwide in 2002, an average of 1 death per million people per year.

Ohfour · Hooker

That's ONE DEATH PER MILLION. Have you ever known a person that never had an ear infection? Do you not see how rare this is?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
That's ONE DEATH PER MILLION. Have you ever known a person that never had an ear infection? Do you not see how rare this is?

I just said that DS2 never had one.

flan

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
They did not die of that. The kid did not get an ear infection because it wasn't vaccinated or hadn't had a well visit. The child died from an ear infection - which is virtually unheard of.
And something that 99.9% of ALL children get. Whether they see a doctor or not.
And something that 99.9% of all children recover from without issue - whether they see a doctor or not.
Do you have a source for that statement?
flan

Have you ever heard of a child dying from an ear infection before today?

I know I never have before today.

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
They did not die of that. The kid did not get an ear infection because it wasn't vaccinated or hadn't had a well visit. The child died from an ear infection - which is virtually unheard of.
And something that 99.9% of ALL children get. Whether they see a doctor or not.
And something that 99.9% of all children recover from without issue - whether they see a doctor or not.
Do you have a source for that statement?
flan
Have you ever heard of a child dying from an ear infection before today?
I know I never have before today.

Neither have I because they are EASILY TREATABLE with antibiotics.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
They did not die of that. The kid did not get an ear infection because it wasn't vaccinated or hadn't had a well visit. The child died from an ear infection - which is virtually unheard of.
And something that 99.9% of ALL children get. Whether they see a doctor or not.
And something that 99.9% of all children recover from without issue - whether they see a doctor or not.
Do you have a source for that statement?
flan
Have you ever heard of a child dying from an ear infection before today?
I know I never have before today.
Neither have I because they are EASILY TREATABLE with antibiotics.

What part of "do not treat with antibiotics" do you not understand? Or are you above the AMA.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
They did not die of that. The kid did not get an ear infection because it wasn't vaccinated or hadn't had a well visit. The child died from an ear infection - which is virtually unheard of.
And something that 99.9% of ALL children get. Whether they see a doctor or not.
And something that 99.9% of all children recover from without issue - whether they see a doctor or not.
Do you have a source for that statement?
flan
Have you ever heard of a child dying from an ear infection before today?
I know I never have before today.
Neither have I because they are EASILY TREATABLE with antibiotics.

They don't treat them all with antibiotics, anymore. Less and less all the time because too many antibiotics are bad and ear infections clear on their own. You are stubbornly choosing to ignore that fact.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
They did not die of that. The kid did not get an ear infection because it wasn't vaccinated or hadn't had a well visit. The child died from an ear infection - which is virtually unheard of.
And something that 99.9% of ALL children get. Whether they see a doctor or not.
And something that 99.9% of all children recover from without issue - whether they see a doctor or not.
Do you have a source for that statement?
flan
Have you ever heard of a child dying from an ear infection before today?
I know I never have before today.
Neither have I because they are EASILY TREATABLE with antibiotics.
They don't treat them all with antibiotics, anymore. Less and less all the time because too many antibiotics are bad and ear infections clear on their own. You are stubbornly choosing to ignore that fact.

So that means you do treat SOME.

flan

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
They did not die of that. The kid did not get an ear infection because it wasn't vaccinated or hadn't had a well visit. The child died from an ear infection - which is virtually unheard of.
And something that 99.9% of ALL children get. Whether they see a doctor or not.
And something that 99.9% of all children recover from without issue - whether they see a doctor or not.
Do you have a source for that statement?
flan
Have you ever heard of a child dying from an ear infection before today?
I know I never have before today.
Neither have I because they are EASILY TREATABLE with antibiotics.
What part of "do not treat with antibiotics" do you not understand? Or are you above the AMA.

so its better that this child died. Got it.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
They did not die of that. The kid did not get an ear infection because it wasn't vaccinated or hadn't had a well visit. The child died from an ear infection - which is virtually unheard of.
And something that 99.9% of ALL children get. Whether they see a doctor or not.
And something that 99.9% of all children recover from without issue - whether they see a doctor or not.
Do you have a source for that statement?
flan
Have you ever heard of a child dying from an ear infection before today?
I know I never have before today.
Neither have I because they are EASILY TREATABLE with antibiotics.
They don't treat them all with antibiotics, anymore. Less and less all the time because too many antibiotics are bad and ear infections clear on their own. You are stubbornly choosing to ignore that fact.

You are stubbornly ignoring the fact that this case should have been treated.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
They did not die of that. The kid did not get an ear infection because it wasn't vaccinated or hadn't had a well visit. The child died from an ear infection - which is virtually unheard of.
And something that 99.9% of ALL children get. Whether they see a doctor or not.
And something that 99.9% of all children recover from without issue - whether they see a doctor or not.
Do you have a source for that statement?
flan
Have you ever heard of a child dying from an ear infection before today?
I know I never have before today.
Neither have I because they are EASILY TREATABLE with antibiotics.
What part of "do not treat with antibiotics" do you not understand? Or are you above the AMA.
so its better that this child died. Got it.

More children are dying BECAUSE of the antibiotics than are dying from ear infections. What can't you grasp about that?

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
I find it amazing that some of the same people who give sympathy to parents who kill their kids by forgetting them in a car are the same ones that think not treating an ear infection with antibiotics is murder.
Two totally different situations. These parents didn't "forget" to take their child to a doctor.
flan
No. They were actually caring for her. She died of a freak spreading of a bacterial infection - not due to the actions of her parents.
With herbal remedies...
flan
So? I treat sore throats with chai tea or honey or salt water gargles. What part of too many anti-biotics are bad for you don't you get? And an ear infection being deadly is virtually unheard of.
Um, too many antibiotics wasn't the issue here. The issue was not enough. She would have LIVED had she gotten them.
So? This is nothing that millions of parents aren't doing every day. People die. It just happens. You can't predict every outcome.

This one was predictable.