TOTALLY GEEKED!

just Czech wrote:

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Okay, first of all, I know of one teenager that DID develop Type II adult onset diabetes BEFORE 2008.

Something sounds fishy with the facts..

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 Yeah, I questioned that fact too.  I don't believe that.  I'm sure the rates have gone up drastically though. 

I do believe this is not just an American problem.  And I also believe that the big companies put pressure on the government so they can get what they want.

We cook from scratch here, so sugar is never added to our daily meals.

My biggest downfall is adding sugar to my cup of coffee.....and eating chocolate.

We do need to be careful of what we eat and how much we eat. I hardly ever drink coke anymore but I no longer ever drink diet coke. Hardly ever eat chips or fast food and now when I do eat fast food I can really tell. I didn't gain any weight overseas when I visited my dd the last time and we ate a lot. They don't put preservatives in their food and you go out to eat you don't get very big portions. Kids now don't play like we did when we were little. They are attached to video games and eat chips and junk food all day. A lot of parents don't cook meals at home like our mothers did and when we went to mcdonalds or any other kind of fast food it was very rare.

Mellow Momma wrote:

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There is sugar in just about everything. I have started reading labels and the stuff they put sugar in is disgusting. Also, if something says low fat, they have probably added sugar to it in order to make it taste better. The low fat items have almost double the sugar as the regular items. I have started really watching how much sugar I put in knowingly. I won't be able to avoid it totally, but I want to be at least knowledgeable about where it's coming from.

Down to one Coke a day, and I can't finish it usually. Thinking about going to the mini cans.

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 They addressed the low fat thing.  They pointed out that when you take the fat out it doesn't taste good so you have to add more sugar.  Mostly double it.  Just like you said.

Czech, that is what they recommended.  Cooking from scratch.  Not adding refined sugar.  Just eating natural food.  In the way it's grown.  They said doing that can make a world of difference.

Yogurt and granola. Both have an amazing amount of added sugar.

I have started looking for yogurt with low sugar and high protein. You really have to read the labels carefully to compare. You can eliminate 10 grams of sugar per serving by choosing one yogurt over the other. 

-- Edited by Mellow Momma on Friday 19th of June 2015 05:00:53 PM

Mellow Momma wrote:

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Yogurt and granola. Both have an amazing amount of added sugar.

I have started looking for yogurt with low sugar and high protein. You really have to read the labels carefully to compare. You can eliminate 10 grams of sugar per serving by choosing one yogurt over the other. 

-- Edited by Mellow Momma on Friday 19th of June 2015 05:00:53 PM

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 I hardly ever eat yogurt. You either get a ton of sugar or a ton of artificial sweeteners. It's like pick your poison.

Never heard of that.

Mellow Momma wrote:

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 I will have to look for that. I can't recall seeing it in the yogurt section.

If you have a separate organic or healthy food section, it can be found there too. Our grocery store has a separate refrigerated section for organic milk, etc. Siggis is in that special spot. It's yummy. Noosa is actually my favorite, but that has WAY more sugar than Siggis.

Granola was an eye opener for me. I had no idea it had that much sugar in it. BBQ sauce too. I knew it had sugar, but it has more than you think. And spaghetti sauce from a jar (which I used to use as a base for my own sauce) has a TON of sugar. So do canned tomatoes - just regular diced tomatoes in a can have loads of sugar. So even if you are cooking from scratch, you probably use some ingredients like that and you just have to watch them. I wouldn't have thought it could add up so quickly but it really does.

I knew someone would yell personal responsibility. The whole movie was about personal responsibility. It was about just how important it is to be personally responsible for what you eat and drink in the society we have today where such bad choices are constantly being rammed down our throat. Pun intended. It not abdicate anyone from making better choices. HOWEVER, it did say that as a country we are doing a huge disservice to everyone by allowing big companies to brainwash us into thinking that all this crap isn't dangerous to and for us. It compared it to smoking and how for so long we allowed big tobacco companies to brainwash us that smoking had no side effects whatsoever. But eating huge amounts of sugar is bad for us and does have way more consequences than we even realize. And we need to, as a country, realize that and stand up for ourselves and our children. You can take personal responsibility for yourself while at the same time working to change things for the better. And there is so much hidden sugar. Many times the things people think are "better choices" are actually higher in sugar.

This is the first generation that is supposed to live shorter life spans than their parents.

And if you think because you're thin that you're safe, you're not. They followed four kids. One boy cried because all his brothers were really thin and he was fat. They all ate the same food. When they tested all four boys body fat they came to find out the boys are all what they now call TOFI. Thin on the outside and fat on the inside. While the fat boy had a body fat content of something like 63% his other brothers fat content ranged from 28% to 48%. So they all had high fat ratios too.

Tang, that's kind of what they were saying. That we have been fed this whole line of there's no other way. We've just swallowed that we have to eat bad. And we don't.

And yes, they talked about yogurt and how much sugar is in it. And now we have yogurt for kids that has cookies, granola, and candy pieces in it.

We're making an effort to go back to basics as much as possible with our eating. Not there yet.

I add lime,cucumbers and mint to a picture of water sometimes.

I don't drink a lot of soda - maybe 2-3 cans per month. I prefer water or iced tea (plain - no sugar, no lemon). I have decaf tea to make at home.

I am all about the iced tea as well. No sugar, no calories. It's better than water but not as good as the soda I am giving up.

I really liked this movie because it wasn't about removing personal responsibility. It was all about the government should be encouraging big corporations to give us all the information we need to make the best informed choices we possibly can. Believe it or not a LOT of people really aren't that smart when it comes to nutrition.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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I really liked this movie because it wasn't about removing personal responsibility. It was all about the government should be encouraging big corporations to give us all the information we need to make the best informed choices we possibly can. Believe it or not a LOT of people really aren't that smart when it comes to nutrition.

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 And doctors don't have to take any nutrition classes so they are basically no help. 

DH's brother is a certified nutritionist. He got his masters in nutrition. He is passionate about portion sizes as well as sugar. I figured I could probably only conquer one thing at a time so I am working on sugar first. But my BIL will be the first to say, don't make too many changes at once because you won't stick to them. Change one habit, then another. 

I could use some help on portion sizes. I know what they're supposed to be and sometimes I care. Today I don't care and, quite frankly, I want a huge bowl of pasta with meatballs followed by a huge slice of chocolate cake. Won't happen because that stuff isn't in the kitchen (except the meatballs) and I'm not going out but I want comfort food and that's comfort food to me.

My biggest downfall is not eating at appropriate times. I get sick if I eat too early and often don't get all that hungry during the day. It's hard for me to eat anything because I'm not feeling any hunger cues. One of my doctors wants me to eat a small breakfast (she suggested eggs and bacon) but I don't see the point in eating just to throw it up. It doesn't help that I'm one of those people who can look at a shake and gain 10 pounds.

I'm so excited about trying my water tomorrow. It's blackberry sage and it's made and in the fridge infusing. I told DH I was going to try to give up soda and he said he'd support me.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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So this has sparked me to try to give up soda. I'm not doing this cold turkey but I'm going to start making infused water. Anyone do this?

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 I gave up diet coke over a month ago.  I drink naturally flavored seltzer instead.  No artificial sweeteners, sugars, or chemicals.  Sometimes I squeeze the juice from a wedge of a citrus fruit into it.  Best tasting drink ever!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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just Czech wrote:

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Okay, first of all, I know of one teenager that DID develop Type II adult onset diabetes BEFORE 2008.

Something sounds fishy with the facts..

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Yeah, that jumped out at me too.   

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 Yeah most studies are flawed and articles written that represent non facts as fact.  I don't give credence to any of these types of articles.

 

Weight gain is due to not any one factor; rather its a whole life style issues.  Calories are indeed a factor, amount of fat consume and sugars and carbs are all factors.  exercise and general activity throughout the day are factors.  No one needs a study to know this.  We all know this.  We just have to make better choices.

Mellow Momma wrote:

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chef wrote:

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I could use some help on portion sizes. I know what they're supposed to be and sometimes I care. Today I don't care and, quite frankly, I want a huge bowl of pasta with meatballs followed by a huge slice of chocolate cake. Won't happen because that stuff isn't in the kitchen (except the meatballs) and I'm not going out but I want comfort food and that's comfort food to me.

My biggest downfall is not eating at appropriate times. I get sick if I eat too early and often don't get all that hungry during the day. It's hard for me to eat anything because I'm not feeling any hunger cues. One of my doctors wants me to eat a small breakfast (she suggested eggs and bacon) but I don't see the point in eating just to throw it up. It doesn't help that I'm one of those people who can look at a shake and gain 10 pounds.

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 Eggs and bacon is not a small breakfast to me. A small breakfast is a bagel and maybe a banana. Eggs and bacon is a huge breakfast for me. 

Portion sizes is a struggle for my DH. I know your meat should only be the size of a deck of cards. That's really small compared to what some people are used to. 

I am not a fan of breakfast either. I get nauseous eating it, but if I do, it starts my metabolism rolling faster and I am hungry at appropriate times. I was like you, I didn't eat breakfast so my body thought I was starving. So it slowed down my metabolism, and then I wasn't hungry during the day. It was a vicious cycle. It sounds counter intuitive but eating breakfast helps me get hungry. Lol 

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 A bagel and a banana is triple the calories of an egg and two pieces of bacon. And it would be only carbs vs protein and fat. Eggs and bacon is actually better for you to eat for breakfast. 

I like to eat an egg and a piece of fruit or some oatmeal for breakfast. 

This is the workbook we used in the class I took.

The Appetite Awareness Workbook: How to Listen to Your Body and Overcome Bingeing, Overeating, and Obsession with Food

www.amazon.com/The-Appetite-Awareness-Workbook-Overeating/dp/1572243988

Tangerine wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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chef wrote:

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I could use some help on portion sizes. I know what they're supposed to be and sometimes I care. Today I don't care and, quite frankly, I want a huge bowl of pasta with meatballs followed by a huge slice of chocolate cake. Won't happen because that stuff isn't in the kitchen (except the meatballs) and I'm not going out but I want comfort food and that's comfort food to me.

My biggest downfall is not eating at appropriate times. I get sick if I eat too early and often don't get all that hungry during the day. It's hard for me to eat anything because I'm not feeling any hunger cues. One of my doctors wants me to eat a small breakfast (she suggested eggs and bacon) but I don't see the point in eating just to throw it up. It doesn't help that I'm one of those people who can look at a shake and gain 10 pounds.

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 Eggs and bacon is not a small breakfast to me. A small breakfast is a bagel and maybe a banana. Eggs and bacon is a huge breakfast for me. 

Portion sizes is a struggle for my DH. I know your meat should only be the size of a deck of cards. That's really small compared to what some people are used to. 

I am not a fan of breakfast either. I get nauseous eating it, but if I do, it starts my metabolism rolling faster and I am hungry at appropriate times. I was like you, I didn't eat breakfast so my body thought I was starving. So it slowed down my metabolism, and then I wasn't hungry during the day. It was a vicious cycle. It sounds counter intuitive but eating breakfast helps me get hungry. Lol 

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 A bagel and a banana is triple the calories of an egg and two pieces of bacon. And it would be only carbs vs protein and fat. Eggs and bacon is actually better for you to eat for breakfast. 

I like to eat an egg and a piece of fruit or some oatmeal for breakfast. 

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 True about the calories I am sure, but it's the fat/protein in the eggs and bacon I could not tolerate. Eggs and bacon is way more filling and I could never eat an egg and 2 pieces of bacon for breakfast - it's too much. I wouldn't be able to get it down. When I eat a bagel, I eat only one part of it. So half a bagel I guess is the way I eat a bagel. And I can barely get that down. Sometimes, if I am really starving or if I have been up for awhile I can eat a piece of fruit in addition to the bagel. But to eat eggs and bacon for breakfast, that's just way too rich and too filling for me. It's a "big breakfast" for me.