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Practical Tips for Men Distressed by Their Circumcision

Were you shocked to discover you were circumcised?
Post published by Darcia Narvaez Ph.D. on Jun 21, 2015 in Moral Landscapes
 
 

“I am deeply troubled by having been circumcised as an infant. It causes me distress on a daily basis and interferes with my ability to enjoy life. Can you suggest a professional who can help me?”

Those of us who write about circumcision receive notes like this regularly. My colleague, John Geisheker, has suggestions for men in this situation. These are his comments. I hope readers will find them helpful.

"The international physicians’ organization, Doctors Opposing Circumcision (D.O.C.), receives numerous inquiries each month from young men who feel aggrieved by their infant circumcision and who seek legal and medical advice or counseling.

Some young men were never told what happened to them as infants. They assumed during childhood that what they saw when unclothed is what every male sees. Some young men, perhaps when traveling abroad or after an early romantic encounter, discover to their horror that part of them is missing. These ‘late discoverers’ are often the most distressed of all our correspondents.

 

Most of the young men who write us have already begun the ‘obsessive epiphany’ --as we call it— feverishly researching their injury late into the night, and becoming more horrified with each new revelation, perhaps taking months of late nights. The search term ‘male circumcision’ has produced nearly 1.5 million hits halfway through 2015.

Many of the medical professionals who support D.O.C. have –ironically– had the same experience. We mourned the personal loss too and vowed to do something to help others. Even if it proves disconcerting, we believe it is healthy to find out the truth – if only to save the next generation from this historical scourge, a scourge that plagues English-speaking countries (as well as those countries who subscribe to ancient Abrahamic rites.).

Here is what we recommend as therapy for the distressed, and we hope that those of you in current distress will not think we are being heartlessly practical and failing to be sensitive to your unique needs.

FIRST, MAKE YOUR DISCONTENT KNOWN.

By doing so you will clarify your own thoughts as well as provide courage for others to share their experiences. One of the (many) problems with circumcision is that circumcised men often suffer in silence, for fear of being thought weak or weird if they complain.

But it is especially important to inform young parents-to-be. They need to know that circumcision is not benign and that their infant will one day be a man who might not appreciate being sexually ‘de-tuned’ for anti-sexual, cosmetic, 19th-century, cultural-conformity reasons. It is only by a groundswell of discontent that the 150-year momentum of ‘medicalized’ circumcision will be slowed and eventually stopped.

There are numerous places on the net where you might post (anonymously if you need to) your discontent about your own situation. This sharing has genuine therapeutic value, for you and for others.

For example, go to “Men Do Complain (link is external),” a British site, and tell your story.

Then, take the NORM (National Organization of Restoring Men) survey (link is external).

There are many other sites where your story will be welcomed and you may find some measure of solace.

SECOND, CONSIDER NON-SURGICAL FORESKIN RESTORATION.

Over 50,000 U.S. men are restoring, though most do so quietly, without fanfare, as you’d expect. All non-surgical methods rely on the fact that, under gentle tension, skin cells are stimulated to multiply. The result is sometimes called a ‘faux-skin’ since it does not have the muscles and acutely sensitive nerves of the original. Restoration provides, however, a measure of protection and relief, both physical and psychological. Restored men report improved body image and markedly increased sensation, flexibility, comfort and protection from abrasion. They like the fact they were resourceful and ‘fixed’ themselves.

Done properly, non-surgical foreskin restoration is very safe, and we at D.O.C. endorse it heartily. (We strenuously warn against surgical restoration, a bad idea for numerous reasons.) If it hurts, the restorer is proceeding incorrectly, too aggressively, or impatiently. The best advice seems to be to restore (or gently ‘tug’ as restorers say), for some hours each day, and then provide a period without tension for the tissue to ‘relax.’ The process should be entirely painless and you should not even notice you are restoring on any given day.

An easy search on the web (23,000 results in mid-2015) will turn up lots of devices and methods to choose from, and advice from restoration groups who will provide encouragement as well.

Foreskin restoration is simple, safe, cheap, effective, and therapeutic (and over two-thousand years old), but takes time –upwards of two years– and requires patience. Its peculiar downside is that –since it needs to become a routine like brushing your teeth– it is also a daily reminder of your injury. Restorers need to consider whether they are prepared for that challenge.

(And a final caveat: the typical medical provider in your area will be both unaware of non-surgical foreskin restoration and –very likely– hostile to the idea as an affront to his or her profession. Plunge on anyway, despite this disapproval. You do not need medical permission –or guidance– to restore.)

THIRD, GET INVOLVED IN THE ‘INTACTIVIST’ CAUSE.

This can be done anonymously online by joining a national group, or by donating to the major organizations like NOCIRC, (the National Organization of Circumcision Information Resource Centers); NORM, (the National Organization of Restoring Men); D.O.C.; A.R.C., (Attorneys for the Rights of the Child); or Intact America. It might be as simple as a regular donation, or more intensive, like studying the issue carefully so that you become a credible resource for other people in your community.

Or –if it suits your temperament– as ‘in-your-face’ as performing as one of the ‘Blood-Stained Men (link is external)’ at a public appearance in your region.

We at D.O.C. wish aggrieved, young, circumcised men the very best of luck in their recovery, and hope that it will be speedy, restorative, and ultimately calming. Of course we also hope that young families will remember to protect their children from non-therapeutic, unnecessary, merely cultural, genital reduction surgeries, and encourage others to protect children too.

--John V. Geisheker, JD, LL.M

Executive Director, General Counsel

Doctors Opposing Circumcision

Seattle, Washington, USA

June 2015

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201506/practical-tips-men-distressed-their-circumcision



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Is this an "April Fool"?

 

The BS meter is reading very high.

 

It seems to have been written by an attorney. This leads me to think that he's looking for clients, who will label themselves as "victims" and then look for someone to sue.

The article's link indicates that it's somehow from or related to or approved by Psychology Today.

Possibly from their crackpot section?

 

 



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what a load of garbage--probably some AA phd straining to create an issue where there is none


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I just asked my SO if he has these issues and his eyes welled up.

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I just asked my SO if he has these issues and his eyes welled up.

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What? 



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Sike ed. It means just kidding in kid language

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I have a practical tip for someone feeling these things.

NUT UP.



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Sike ed. It means just kidding in kid language


 

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Nah, psych is too predictable

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Thank you for explaining,

 

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Ed, I just found out the other day that in kid talk LOSER is good and SMART (or something similar to it) is bad. They have turned them into acronyms so the teachers don't know that they are calling names now.

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I am not distressed by DH's circ...and that's ALL that matters! LOL

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Ed, I just found out the other day that in kid talk LOSER is good and SMART (or something similar to it) is bad. They have turned them into acronyms so the teachers don't know that they are calling names now.


Is there an acronym for uncircumcised penis?

 

I've seen a few done on men while they were getting their penile implants.

 

 



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If you are "distressed" by your circumcision done before you can remember anything, you need psychiatric help.

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If you are distressed by your circumcision then check with your girlfriend or wife. I'm pretty sure most prefer it that way.

 

eta to add "most" as NJN has a good point.



-- Edited by Tinydancer on Tuesday 23rd of June 2015 07:37:36 AM

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This has got to be one of the most hilarious articles ever!

I'm am absolutely positive this guy remembers what his penis felt like BEFORE he was circumcised as newborn. What a load of CrAp.

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I just sent DS16 a text asking if he was mad that he was circumcised. I will wait for the response and if he is blame it on his dad who he is visiting right now.

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I just sent DS16 a text asking if he was mad that he was circumcised. I will wait for the response and if he is blame it on his dad who he is visiting right now.


um ... sure you did ... blankstare



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If there are actually men that feel this way, they should just kill themselves now because they are too stupid to continue breathing.

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If there are actually men that feel this way, they should just kill themselves now because they are too stupid to continue breathing.


No, they can still reproduce. 



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If there are actually men that feel this way, they should just kill themselves now because they are too stupid to continue breathing.


No, they can still reproduce. 


 Cause that sounds like a great idea.

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If you are distressed by your circumcision then check with your girlfriend or wife. I'm pretty they prefer it that way.


 You don't speak for all women...



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If there are actually men that feel this way, they should just kill themselves now because they are too stupid to continue breathing.


No, they can still reproduce. 


 Unfortunately.



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If you are distressed by your circumcision then check with your girlfriend or wife. I'm pretty they prefer it that way.


 You don't speak for all women...


 She speaks for every woman I know.



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Yes but I think it is cultural. You probably prefer what you know.

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If you are distressed by your circumcision then check with your girlfriend or wife. I'm pretty they prefer it that way.


 You don't speak for all women...


 She speaks for every woman I know.


 If you prefer it that way NJN I can't judge because everyone has their own preference but you're the first I've heard say they prefer it uncircumcised.



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Yes but I think it is cultural. You probably prefer what you know.


 Yes.  It is cultural.  We're programmed in the country to think it's the absolute best and right thing to do.  Other countries don't see it that way.  I've heard all the stats and yet other countries men are not dying at alarming rates of anything that the AMA or APA suggests.  It's just not happening in other countries. 

I think this whole debate is silly.  I can't believe someone would not want to be in a relationship with a man because of this. 



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DS asked me what I was talking about and lol'd. I am assuming he is fine with it. I wouldn't say I have a preference either way, but I am enjoying the hell out of my uncut one.

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DS asked me what I was talking about and lol'd. I am assuming he is fine with it. I wouldn't say I have a preference either way, but I am enjoying the hell out of my uncut one.


 Yeah, I just can't imagine meeting a super nice guy in this day and age and going, nope.  Can't do it.  You still have a foreskin.



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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
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DS asked me what I was talking about and lol'd. I am assuming he is fine with it. I wouldn't say I have a preference either way, but I am enjoying the hell out of my uncut one.


 Yeah, I just can't imagine meeting a super nice guy in this day and age and going, nope.  Can't do it.  You still have a foreskin.


 I cannot be bursting into laughter at work!!!!

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I have never seen an uncircumcised penis in person.

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I have never seen an uncircumcised penis in person.


I've seen one.  Well, actually 2 I guess if you count my son for the first 24 hours of his life.

I didn't like it... 



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DS asked me what I was talking about and lol'd. I am assuming he is fine with it. I wouldn't say I have a preference either way, but I am enjoying the hell out of my uncut one.


 Yeah, I just can't imagine meeting a super nice guy in this day and age and going, nope.  Can't do it.  You still have a foreskin.


 I cannot be bursting into laughter at work!!!!

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 Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.  But I'm glad you laughed.  People make way more of this subject than they need too.  Oh, and the guy in the op is an idiot.  What's done is done.  There is no "suffering" now.

I am not sure what people expect an uncircumcised penis to look like.  It's no scarier or nasty than a regular one.



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I have never seen an uncircumcised penis in person.


I've seen one.  Well, actually 2 I guess if you count my son for the first 24 hours of his life.

I didn't like it... 


 It's cultural.  Americans are taught to attach bad to the uncircumcised penis.



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DS asked me what I was talking about and lol'd. I am assuming he is fine with it. I wouldn't say I have a preference either way, but I am enjoying the hell out of my uncut one.


 Yeah, I just can't imagine meeting a super nice guy in this day and age and going, nope.  Can't do it.  You still have a foreskin.


 I cannot be bursting into laughter at work!!!!

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 Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.  But I'm glad you laughed.  People make way more of this subject than they need too.  Oh, and the guy in the op is an idiot.  What's done is done.  There is no "suffering" now.

I am not sure what people expect an uncircumcised penis to look like.  It's no scarier or nasty than a regular one.


 Yeah, a penis is not exactly a thing of beauty...

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Lawyerlady wrote:

I have never seen an uncircumcised penis in person.


 Neither have I.

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
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I have never seen an uncircumcised penis in person.


I've seen one.  Well, actually 2 I guess if you count my son for the first 24 hours of his life.

I didn't like it... 


 It's cultural.  Americans are taught to attach bad to the uncircumcised penis.


I agree.  It was just different to me, so I didn't like it.  It's not that I thought of it as bad, I just didn't think of it was pretty.  But that's totally because of what I had been conditioned to... 



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My MIL in Spain was shocked when she found out they routinely do it. She couldn't believe it.

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We should make a movie: Attack of the Foreskins...

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DS asked me what I was talking about and lol'd. I am assuming he is fine with it. I wouldn't say I have a preference either way, but I am enjoying the hell out of my uncut one.


 Yeah, I just can't imagine meeting a super nice guy in this day and age and going, nope.  Can't do it.  You still have a foreskin.


 I cannot be bursting into laughter at work!!!!

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 Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.  But I'm glad you laughed.  People make way more of this subject than they need too.  Oh, and the guy in the op is an idiot.  What's done is done.  There is no "suffering" now.

I am not sure what people expect an uncircumcised penis to look like.  It's no scarier or nasty than a regular one.


 Yeah, a penis is not exactly a thing of beauty...

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 I said that in a thread awhile ago and everyone told me I was nuts that penises were SO attractive! Lol. Whatever! I think they are downright ugly looking cut or uncut. It makes no difference to me if a man has a circ or not. I have had sex with both and the only difference was NOT in the penis, but in how it was used. 

And my DH is actually half and half due to a surgical error during his circ. The doc told his mom he didn't have enough foreskin to circ on one side, but a urologist told him the doc just made a mistake and didn't want to admit it. It still works just fine! 



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I will never understand why the look of a penis is such a big deal. Hooded or not, the function is the same.

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I have never seen an uncircumcised penis in person.


I've seen one.  Well, actually 2 I guess if you count my son for the first 24 hours of his life.

I didn't like it... 


 I've only ever seen 1 uncircumcised penis and I have to say it did not inspire me to want to see more. I realize it's a cultural thing but that's my culture...lol



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I will never understand why the look of a penis is such a big deal. Hooded or not, the function is the same.


 Exactly! And to be honest, I don't exactly want to stare at it anyway...



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I will never understand why the look of a penis is such a big deal. Hooded or not, the function is the same.


 Exactly! And to be honest, I don't exactly want to stare at it anyway...


 Amen!  And honestly, when I was looking for a husband I wrote down qualities like hard worker, ambitiousness, loyal, loving, good father, honest.  Foreskin removal didn't even make my list.



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I will never understand why the look of a penis is such a big deal. Hooded or not, the function is the same.


 Exactly! And to be honest, I don't exactly want to stare at it anyway...


 Amen!  And honestly, when I was looking for a husband I wrote down qualities like hard worker, ambitiousness, loyal, loving, good father, honest.  Foreskin removal didn't even make my list.


 I don't remember anyone saying it would be a deal breaker.  I would HOPE you would get to know the man well enough to overcome such a thing by the time you see THAT. 



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I will never understand why the look of a penis is such a big deal. Hooded or not, the function is the same.


 Exactly! And to be honest, I don't exactly want to stare at it anyway...


 Amen!  And honestly, when I was looking for a husband I wrote down qualities like hard worker, ambitiousness, loyal, loving, good father, honest.  Foreskin removal didn't even make my list.


 I don't remember anyone saying it would be a deal breaker.  I would HOPE you would get to know the man well enough to overcome such a thing by the time you see THAT. 


 Well, seeing as how we got married after only 86 days I didn't know much about him at all!  But then again, I wouldn't trade him for the world.  He's definitely not perfect but he's perfect to me.



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I never said it was a deal breaker but I do know I prefer a circumcised penis. Only ever having experienced it that way I'm glad I'm happily married and don't need to worry about whether the next guy is snipped or not.

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Here's what you said...

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If you are distressed by your circumcision then check with your girlfriend or wife. I'm pretty they prefer it that way.

You said we prefer it that way. YOU prefer it that way and I'm sure there are many that do. But there are also a whole heck of a lot of us out there who either prefer it the other way or just don't care either way. I'm just saying that you can't make a broad sweeping statement for all women.

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I went back and changed my statement once I realized there were women who preferred it uncut. Until you said it I'd never heard any other woman say that. It could be because I don't know any men who are not cut so of course their wives would also say they like it that way. Oh and it's just like when people make broad sweeping comments about children who grew up in campers...lol

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