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RE: Practical Tips for Men Distressed by Their Circumcision

Tinydancer · Guru

It was a camper but it did not pop up. It was not a mobile home but that's what people called it to be nice. Sweeping statements are definitely wrong though so I'm sorry I was so flip about uncircumcised penises.

I grew up in a camper (yes a camper) and I had wonderful, hard working parents so...

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Tuesday 23rd of June 2015 03:28:43 PM

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Well, I lived in a mobile home for a few years with my kids. So no, I don't look down on them.

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Oh, and since we're dredging up old stuff. My point was originally about people in general. Not at the couple who had the kid with the ear infection. My point was, and I still stand by it, that if you are living in a camper with no job, no car, and five kids you can't feed, you SHOULD NOT be having more. If that is offensive then so be it.

Tinydancer · Guru

Again, there is a huge difference between a camper and a mobile home as you say and you did look down on those parents of the child who died from an ear infection because they lived in a camper with no electricity or running water even though the articles never said any such thing.

Tinydancer · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Oh, and since we're dredging up old stuff. My point was originally about people in general. Not at the couple who had the kid with the ear infection. My point was, and I still stand by it, that if you are living in a camper with no job, no car, and five kids you can't feed, you SHOULD NOT be having more. If that is offensive then so be it.

Except the article never said any of that other stuff you just added it like that's what they were doing.

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Tinydancer wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Oh, and since we're dredging up old stuff. My point was originally about people in general. Not at the couple who had the kid with the ear infection. My point was, and I still stand by it, that if you are living in a camper with no job, no car, and five kids you can't feed, you SHOULD NOT be having more. If that is offensive then so be it.
Except the article never said any of that other stuff you just added it like that's what they were doing.

And I said from the very beginning this statement had nothing to do with THAT couple. I said that SEVERAL times. I also said I didn't know anything about ear infections which I was pretty much called a liar about. I also said my opinion has nothing to do with this article at all but I just wanted to say that I was tired of people continuing to have kids they couldn't take care of. So apparently you have selective reading because I stated that several times. I never once accused those parents of doing that. I said over and over this was just a general you situation. I mean do I have to send it by telegraph to get it across? I didn't accuse those people of a thing. I was just adding an aside to some comments made about them living in a camper.

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I'm sorry you're so sensitive about this subject but the truth of the matter is that where I live people do chit like this all the time. It's frustrating to see a pregnant lady with five kids on welfare. I said this too. I see them begging all the time. And they get pregnant on purpose and not on accident. I get tired of people having kids they can't take care of. This is a general statement. If it hurts your feelings I don't know what to say because it was not pointed at you directly.

Tinydancer · Guru

No one would disagree that people who can't afford children shouldn't keep having them but you did say "living in a camper" like that was bad in a thread about this couple so my reading comprehension is fine. I guess sweeping statements made by you are fine but I can't say that women prefer a circumcised penis without being chastised for making a sweeping statement.

Tinydancer · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I'm sorry you're so sensitive about this subject but the truth of the matter is that where I live people do chit like this all the time. It's frustrating to see a pregnant lady with five kids on welfare. I said this too. I see them begging all the time. And they get pregnant on purpose and not on accident. I get tired of people having kids they can't take care of. This is a general statement. If it hurts your feelings I don't know what to say because it was not pointed at you directly.

This would not hurt my feelings because I have never had 5 kids or been on welfare. What did rankle me is that you said "living in a camper" like that made them bad people. Like I said sweeping statements are wrong whether it's you or I and if you can't see how you did the exact same thing then I guess we'll agree to disagree.

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Tuesday 23rd of June 2015 03:49:32 PM

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

It doesn't make them bad people. It does mean they are breaking the law because a camper doesn't meet the basic requirements that CPS sets out for having a child living with you. It makes them guilty of making bad choices as I stated in the thread. And where your parents were hard working, the parents in the ear infection case had multiple warrant out for DUI.

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You really believe raising five kids in a camper is a great responsible way to raise kids? In the other article the guy had a DUI and they had no money. So no, they were not the most responsible parent. And I also said there is a huge difference between a pop up camper and an RV. But you didn't read that either. And yes, I do happen to believe that if you're going to bring a whole slew of kids into the world you might want to think of getting decent housing, a job, and a car. Hell, parents can raise their kids in the woods if they so choose. Does it make them BAD parents? No. But is that honestly what you think is a great idea of circumstances for bringing children into the world? I never asked anyone to buy a mansion to raise kids in. But for pete's sake you're acting like expecting parents to provide the little tiniest basics is asking for too much.

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Mellow Momma wrote:
It doesn't make them bad people. It does mean they are breaking the law because a camper doesn't meet the basic requirements that CPS sets out for having a child living with you. It makes them guilty of making bad choices as I stated in the thread. And where your parents were hard working, the parents in the ear infection case had multiple warrant out for DUI.

THANK YOU! There is a world of difference between someone with one or two kids who falls on hard times and is actively working to make life better. THEY ARE WORKING HARD. I'm talking about couples who continue to make bad choice after bad choice after bad choice and yes that DOES make them bad parents.

I will say it again, if you live in a camper, with anything number of children be it one or five, and you have no job, no car, and no food the NOW is not the time to have more kids. That is NOT responsible parenting. The fact that you can't see that is not my problem.

Tinydancer · Guru

I was talking about what NJN said not what you said. I'm quite aware of how you felt about the parents and seeing as I GREW UP IN A CAMPER and was never visited by CPS I'm pretty sure you don't know the laws in every state. The father was listed as having 1 DUI (not parents with multiple) but just continue to make stuff up so you can judge them and feel better.

Tinydancer · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
You really believe raising five kids in a camper is a great responsible way to raise kids? In the other article the guy had a DUI and they had no money. So no, they were not the most responsible parent. And I also said there is a huge difference between a pop up camper and an RV. But you didn't read that either. And yes, I do happen to believe that if you're going to bring a whole slew of kids into the world you might want to think of getting decent housing, a job, and a car. Hell, parents can raise their kids in the woods if they so choose. Does it make them BAD parents? No. But is that honestly what you think is a great idea of circumstances for bringing children into the world? I never asked anyone to buy a mansion to raise kids in. But for pete's sake you're acting like expecting parents to provide the little tiniest basics is asking for too much.

Where did I ever say this? I read all that you said and I agreed with most of it but I guess because I don't agree about living in a camper you'll just say what you will and pretend I'm saying all kinds of things I never said.

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Because YOU keep saying that living in a camper does not make them bad people. And MM and I are saying No, it doesn't. But their continued bad choices do. You don't seem to separate the two.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

The CPS rules for housing are pretty generic for all states. There are some differences, but the basics apply to all states. You have to have a separate bedroom with a closing door and a closet for a child. Only 2 children can share a room and those children must be of the same sex if they are older than 2 years old. Children cannot sleep in a living room and cannot sleep in the same room as parents if they are past the newborn age.

So no one called CPS on you because your parents were hard working and doing their best. The parents in the ear infection case were not doing their best. That's the difference. I am sorry if you can't see that. And for the record, I think you deserved better.

Ohfour · Hooker

Mellow Momma wrote:
It doesn't make them bad people. It does mean they are breaking the law because a camper doesn't meet the basic requirements that CPS sets out for having a child living with you. It makes them guilty of making bad choices as I stated in the thread. And where your parents were hard working, the parents in the ear infection case had multiple warrant out for DUI.

I didn't see where they were being cited for living in a camper that didn't meet the basic requirements nor where that was even an issue with CPS. It's obviously not a law in KY, cause there are all kinds of kids living in campers there...

I also didn't see where it said that they were unemployed.

And are you saying that anyone with a DUI should not be a parent/have their children taken away?

Ohfour · Hooker

Mellow Momma wrote:
The CPS rules for housing are pretty generic for all states. There are some differences, but the basics apply to all states. You have to have a separate bedroom with a closing door and a closet for a child. Only 2 children can share a room and those children must be of the same sex if they are older than 2 years old. Children cannot sleep in a living room and cannot sleep in the same room as parents if they are past the newborn age.

So no one called CPS on you because your parents were hard working and doing their best. The parents in the ear infection case were not doing their best. That's the difference. I am sorry if you can't see that. And for the record, I think you deserved better.

most DEFINITLY not in KY or TN. Two states where I absolutely know the housing rules...

My kids shared a room until they were 5 and 9.

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One of the articles said the father had several warrants. I don't remember which one. Does that mean you're a bad parent? Depends on what it's for. Also, the fact that they were warrants mean he didn't take care of them in the first place or they wouldn't have turned into warrants.

Basically I think what MM is trying to say is that no one thing in the list makes you a bad parent. But when you start adding up all the things it doesn't look so good.

Kind of like dating someone. They can have one flaw that's not so bad but then you find out they have ten other things that annoy you too and it's too much to deal with.

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Ohfour wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
The CPS rules for housing are pretty generic for all states. There are some differences, but the basics apply to all states. You have to have a separate bedroom with a closing door and a closet for a child. Only 2 children can share a room and those children must be of the same sex if they are older than 2 years old. Children cannot sleep in a living room and cannot sleep in the same room as parents if they are past the newborn age.

So no one called CPS on you because your parents were hard working and doing their best. The parents in the ear infection case were not doing their best. That's the difference. I am sorry if you can't see that. And for the record, I think you deserved better.
most DEFINITLY not in KY or TN. Two states where I absolutely know the housing rules...
My kids shared a room until they were 5 and 9.

MM's laws are the same laws for TX. I know because whenever we sign a lease we have to make sure we have the right combo of kids in the room.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

People would be surprised the things that they do in their own home that are not approved by CPS. Unless someone turns you in, CPS isn't going to find out. They don't troll for things like that.

The info I got was from googling the names in the original Op and reading the articles I found. The articles stated the dad had multiple warrants for DUI and they lived in a camper parked at the end of a residential road.

And no...someone with multiple DUI's who has multiple warrants is not my choice for a good parent.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Mellow Momma wrote:
People would be surprised the things that they do in their own home that are not approved by CPS. Unless someone turns you in, CPS isn't going to find out. They don't troll for things like that.

The info I got was from googling the names in the original Op and reading the articles I found. The articles stated the dad had multiple warrants for DUI and they lived in a camper parked at the end of a residential road.

And no...someone with multiple DUI's who has multiple warrants is not my choice for a good parent.

Thanks for the clarification. As I said on the original thread, enough money for booze but not enough for a doctor...

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

There are no laws in TN or any other state regarding boys and girls sharing the same bedroom (actually this question is frequently asked and the issue of there being state laws on these matters is really more of an old wives tale). The only thing child protection, if called, or the courts, if the matter is in the courts, look at is whether or not it is reasonable based upon the ages of the children and whether they are siblings or non-siblings and whether or not there are separate beds in the same room. However, there is no actual law on it, this is a subjective decision made upon what is reasonable (meaning that as the children hit their teen years the courts would tend to frown upon it more that when the children are younger).

Read more: www.justanswer.com/law/2ulh0-tn-laws-concerning-boys-girls-sharing.html

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
One of the articles said the father had several warrants. I don't remember which one. Does that mean you're a bad parent? Depends on what it's for. Also, the fact that they were warrants mean he didn't take care of them in the first place or they wouldn't have turned into warrants.

Basically I think what MM is trying to say is that no one thing in the list makes you a bad parent. But when you start adding up all the things it doesn't look so good.

Kind of like dating someone. They can have one flaw that's not so bad but then you find out they have ten other things that annoy you too and it's too much to deal with.

Thank you! Yes that's exactly my point. Live in a camper but you are working hard to improve your situation - fine. Live in a camper with multiple warrants for DUI...don't expect me to think you are making good choices when it comes to your kids.

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
People would be surprised the things that they do in their own home that are not approved by CPS. Unless someone turns you in, CPS isn't going to find out. They don't troll for things like that.

The info I got was from googling the names in the original Op and reading the articles I found. The articles stated the dad had multiple warrants for DUI and they lived in a camper parked at the end of a residential road.

And no...someone with multiple DUI's who has multiple warrants is not my choice for a good parent.
Thanks for the clarification. As I said on the original thread, enough money for booze but not enough for a doctor...
flan

You don't know that the DUI was 10 days ago or 10 years ago. Maybe he had money then...

LOTS of assuming going around here...

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Ohfour wrote:
There are no laws in TN or any other state regarding boys and girls sharing the same bedroom (actually this question is frequently asked and the issue of there being state laws on these matters is really more of an old wives tale). The only thing child protection, if called, or the courts, if the matter is in the courts, look at is whether or not it is reasonable based upon the ages of the children and whether they are siblings or non-siblings and whether or not there are separate beds in the same room. However, there is no actual law on it, this is a subjective decision made upon what is reasonable (meaning that as the children hit their teen years the courts would tend to frown upon it more that when the children are younger).

Read more: www.justanswer.com/law/2ulh0-tn-laws-concerning-boys-girls-sharing.html

If you google CPS regs for children living in your home, you will get conflicting info. As NJN stated, Texas has the same laws that I stated.

There is no law per se about having food in your fridge either, but if you don't have food in your fridge, they can take your kids away.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
People would be surprised the things that they do in their own home that are not approved by CPS. Unless someone turns you in, CPS isn't going to find out. They don't troll for things like that.

The info I got was from googling the names in the original Op and reading the articles I found. The articles stated the dad had multiple warrants for DUI and they lived in a camper parked at the end of a residential road.

And no...someone with multiple DUI's who has multiple warrants is not my choice for a good parent.
Thanks for the clarification. As I said on the original thread, enough money for booze but not enough for a doctor...
flan
You don't know that the DUI was 10 days ago or 10 years ago. Maybe he had money then...
LOTS of assuming going around here...

Yeah, it's kinda what we do here!

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

Mellow Momma wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
There are no laws in TN or any other state regarding boys and girls sharing the same bedroom (actually this question is frequently asked and the issue of there being state laws on these matters is really more of an old wives tale). The only thing child protection, if called, or the courts, if the matter is in the courts, look at is whether or not it is reasonable based upon the ages of the children and whether they are siblings or non-siblings and whether or not there are separate beds in the same room. However, there is no actual law on it, this is a subjective decision made upon what is reasonable (meaning that as the children hit their teen years the courts would tend to frown upon it more that when the children are younger).

Read more: www.justanswer.com/law/2ulh0-tn-laws-concerning-boys-girls-sharing.html
If you google CPS regs for children living in your home, you will get conflicting info. As NJN stated, Texas has the same laws that I stated.
There is no law per se about having food in your fridge either, but if you don't have food in your fridge, they can take your kids away.

I have looked and I cannot find it. Really. If you have a source, I would love to see it because EVERYTHING I pull up says there are no laws. Now there may be landlord RULES, but there are no laws...

Ohfour · Hooker

This is really interesting to me because I, like many others had heard the same false information. I just did a quick google search and look at that! There are NO laws, state or federal about children sharing bedrooms. The ONLY rules about it lie with CPS or related agencies including foster homes and those are RULES not LAWS.

answers.yahoo.com/question/index

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I am on my iPad when I get home I will get on the computer and look. It is not an actual LAW per se, but it is what CPS looks for before they will place a child in your custody. If you don't have it, they will not give you a child. Just like there is not law saying you can't have booze on the counter within a kid's reach, if you DO have it there, CPS won't hand you a kid!

Again, there is a lot that most of us do without thinking that really isn't acceptable as far as CPS is concerned. You would be shocked to learn of all the regs. You have to have 2 weeks worth of food in the pantry too. I know I don't. I shop weekly.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Ohfour wrote:
This is really interesting to me because I, like many others had heard the same false information. I just did a quick google search and look at that! There are NO laws, state or federal about children sharing bedrooms. The ONLY rules about it lie with CPS or related agencies including foster homes and those are RULES not LAWS.

answers.yahoo.com/question/index

I said it was CPS related! From the start I said it was wnat CPS required.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

She did say CPS from the start.

Ohfour · Hooker

Mellow Momma wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
This is really interesting to me because I, like many others had heard the same false information. I just did a quick google search and look at that! There are NO laws, state or federal about children sharing bedrooms. The ONLY rules about it lie with CPS or related agencies including foster homes and those are RULES not LAWS.

answers.yahoo.com/question/index
I said it was CPS related! From the start I said it was wnat CPS required.

you said it was a law:

If you google CPS regs for children living in your home, you will get conflicting info. As NJN stated, Texas has the same laws that I stated.

I was just saying that it wasn't. And unless you want a child PLACED with you, then it's not even a rule with CPS. You can't call and report it (well you CAN, but they won't come out). If you have 5 kids in a 1 bedroom camper, it may not be ideal, but it's not against the law nor is it against CPS rules...

Ohfour · Hooker

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
She did say CPS from the start.

And then you and her started talking about LAWS. I simply contradicted that there are NO Laws that bar you form having and number of mixed aged, gender kids in a bedroom...

Tinydancer · Guru

I wasn't even trying to bring up the stupid camper other than to point out that NJN told me I shouldn't make sweeping statements about women and how they like their penises. Both NJN and MM keep making sweeping statements about people who live in campers so I'm calling attention to THAT and not to this other thread where you keep trying to have me saying things I NEVER said.

huskerbb · Guru

The term trailer trash didn't come from nowhere. My wife grew up in a trailer and she said if she ever had to go back to one that was grounds for divorce.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
The term trailer trash didn't come from nowhere. My wife grew up in a trailer and she said if she ever had to go back to one that was grounds for divorce.

That doesn't mean she should have been taken away from her parents...

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Tinydancer wrote:
I wasn't even trying to bring up the stupid camper other than to point out that NJN told me I shouldn't make sweeping statements about women and how they like their penises. Both NJN and MM keep making sweeping statements about people who live in campers so I'm calling attention to THAT and not to this other thread where you keep trying to have me saying things I NEVER said.

The ONLY sweeping generalization I made is that if you live in a trailer, have five kids you can't afford to feed, no car, and no job then you should not be having more kids. THAT was the generalization I made and I fully and completely stand behind it. It's a pretty rudimentary concept.

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Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
The term trailer trash didn't come from nowhere. My wife grew up in a trailer and she said if she ever had to go back to one that was grounds for divorce.
That doesn't mean she should have been taken away from her parents...

I don't think anyone said the kids should be taken from the parents. But surely even you can admit that if you have no job, no car, and no income, plus you have some legal issues, you're probably NOT the most responsible person in the world.

How many times does husker say people make bad decisions? A ton. Don't keep making them. Especially if you have kids involved.

Ohfour · Hooker

Hm...where did it say they had no car, no job, no income?

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Ohfour wrote:
Hm...where did it say they had no car, no job, no income?

Again, MY STATEMENT wasn't about THAT couple. The statement TD keeps referring to was a statement I made in general. I stated that the first time and every time thereafter. I said AROUND HERE I see this all the damn time. People continuing to have kids when they really shouldn't. I said I didn't know the details of the OP and I didn't have an opinion on ear infections. When I said I didn't have an opinion on ear infections I was told I couldn't possibly be a nurse. OTHER PEOPLE were debating about where the OP lived. I made a GENERAL statement and people are saying I said it about the OP or certain posters or whatever.

So I will say it again, for like the millionth time, THIS IS A GENERAL STATEMENT NOT DIRECTED ATANYONE, around here where I live people have kids they can't afford all the time. I see them every day posting on FB that they have no job, no car, and no food, and they are having yet another kid.

Was that clear enough or do I need to say it again?

Ohfour · Hooker

OK...just that that has nothing whatsoever to do with the OP, so it got a little confusing.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Ohfour wrote:
OK...just that that has nothing whatsoever to do with the OP, so it got a little confusing.

And in my ORIGINAL POST I said as much. In fact, I said it every time I said what I felt. That this was just my opinion and I see it a lot. I shared it because it related in the sense that these parents were living in a camper. Not that it makes the parents in the camper bad parents. I don't know. I don't really know anything about them. And I don't know a single thing about ear infections either. And yes, I really AM a nurse. I just expressed my opinion about people IN GENERAL having kids that they couldn't take care of.

I guess the reason I brought it up was because the day that article was posted here on TG I saw a post on FB for our local mom group. The mom posted that she baby daddy number three were sleeping in the backyard of her parents house because of some drama. She is eight months pregnant. Her life was filled with drama. She gave her sob story. It just drove me nuts because you could tell she made a series of really poor choices in her life. So I guess the camper part of the story reminded me of so many others in similar situations. If that makes any sense.

About two days ago there was a 19 year old boy dating a 14 year old girl and they decided to move out on their own because their parents didn't approve of their relationship. She was six months pregnant. They, again, had nothing. No car, no jobs, nothing. I don't know how but they had gotten an apartment and they were asking that people bring them food and furniture for their place. Honestly, maybe you should think long and hard about playing grown up before you actually play it.

And no, none of this has to do with the parents in the camper.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Oh, and since we're dredging up old stuff. My point was originally about people in general. Not at the couple who had the kid with the ear infection. My point was, and I still stand by it, that if you are living in a camper with no job, no car, and five kids you can't feed, you SHOULD NOT be having more. If that is offensive then so be it.

You're talking about your in laws right?

The same ones that lost their house in a fire recently?

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lilyofcourse wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Oh, and since we're dredging up old stuff. My point was originally about people in general. Not at the couple who had the kid with the ear infection. My point was, and I still stand by it, that if you are living in a camper with no job, no car, and five kids you can't feed, you SHOULD NOT be having more. If that is offensive then so be it.
You're talking about your in laws right?
The same ones that lost their house in a fire recently?

No idea what you're talking about.

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Ah, my BROTHER did not lose his house in a fire. Again you have taken parts of about five different stories, merged them together and made up your own scenario. My BROTHER lost his LAUNDRY room in a fire. So no, not his whole house. And yes, he does have a bunch of kids. And yes, they could afford them when they had them. Since then she has run up millions of dollars of credit card debt but they could absolutely afford the kids they had.

My SIL and BIL had their second child in a camper. That's where they lived when she got pregnant. They were trying to have a baby. It enabled her to get on WIC, Medicaid, and food stamps. And no, I don't think that's smart. Now they have a house and they a third baby but they really can't afford this one either. Well, they probably could if they managed their money better but their priorities are all messed up so their always broke.

Now, I'm sure you had a point by dragging my family into this so please get to it.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ah, my BROTHER did not lose his house in a fire. Again you have taken parts of about five different stories, merged them together and made up your own scenario. My BROTHER lost his LAUNDRY room in a fire. So no, not his whole house. And yes, he does have a bunch of kids. And yes, they could afford them when they had them. Since then she has run up millions of dollars of credit card debt but they could absolutely afford the kids they had.

My SIL and BIL had their second child in a camper. That's where they lived when she got pregnant. They were trying to have a baby. It enabled her to get on WIC, Medicaid, and food stamps. And no, I don't think that's smart. Now they have a house and they a third baby but they really can't afford this one either. Well, they probably could if they managed their money better but their priorities are all messed up so their always broke.

Now, I'm sure you had a point by dragging my family into this so please get to it.

Yeah...not holding my breath.

flan

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Sin City Girl wrote:
DS asked me what I was talking about and lol'd. I am assuming he is fine with it. I wouldn't say I have a preference either way, but I am enjoying the hell out of my uncut one.
Yeah, I just can't imagine meeting a super nice guy in this day and age and going, nope. Can't do it. You still have a foreskin.
I cannot be bursting into laughter at work!!!!
flan
Not sure if that's a good or bad thing. But I'm glad you laughed. People make way more of this subject than they need too. Oh, and the guy in the op is an idiot. What's done is done. There is no "suffering" now.
I am not sure what people expect an uncircumcised penis to look like. It's no scarier or nasty than a regular one.

It really does not look that different. And it is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more fun to play with.

I honestly prefer it, although I would never let it be a major factor in a relationship either way.

Tinydancer · Guru

I've never been with a guy who wasn't circumcised. The one time I ever saw an uncircumcised one I almost laughed (I didn't but I wanted to). I don't think I'd like an uncircumcised one just like I don't like hairy guys or guys with beards. Luckily we all have different preferences so there's someone out there for everybody no matter what you like.