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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Walmart announces it is to remove all Confederate flag merchandise from its stores and website

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

So, is this just more of the PC crowd trying to tear things down or should the flag be removed?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I vote to remove it.

flan

TrudyML · Guru

flan327 wrote:
I vote to remove it.

flan

+2

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I really dont' care either way so much. I am not from the South so I dont' understand what that means to them. But, fine if you want to remove flags, then don't be flying the LGBT flag or the Mexican flag or whatever either.

TrudyML · Guru

Can I fly the Irish flag?

burns07 · Guru

we fly the stars & stripes, the texas flag and the southern cross regularly at the house--alternate them a bit

have never flown the stars&bars there--not that would bother us, just have never really bought one ( though own smaller ensigns and have for years )

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I think that a bunch of redneck racists have turned the confedate flag into a symbol of hate when that is not what it originally stood for, just like the Nazis turned a peaceful religious symbol into a symbol of hate. It's sad when that is allowed to happen.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Let's just completely rewrite history to suit the PC crappers of the world.

When I quit hearing the "N" word come out black people's mouths, I'll take the anti racist outrage more seriously.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
Let's just completely rewrite history to suit the PC crappers of the world.

When I quit hearing the "N" word come out black people's mouths, I'll take the anti racist outrage more seriously.

One has nothing to do with the other.

flan

burns07 · Guru

had a guest & his wife come to see us from Europe--older relatives of my lady--he was a sailor during the war--in his honor, flew the Royal Navy battle ensign for the couple of days they stayed with us--he was touched and thanked us sincerely

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Let's just completely rewrite history to suit the PC crappers of the world.

When I quit hearing the "N" word come out black people's mouths, I'll take the anti racist outrage more seriously.
One has nothing to do with the other.
flan

Oh yes it does.

Want to taken seriously? Walk the walk, don't just talk the talk.

Ohfour · Hooker

I think the false outcry of racism is OUT OF CONTROL.

Take Kim Kardashian (I know, I know, but bear with me)...

She was at the Vienna Opera Ball, HIRED (like a prostitute) to escort the host of the ball. She was giving an interview and the interviewer asked her if the band was going to play "N****r in Paris". She was just "so" upset that he had used that word that she had to leave the party. She couldn't believe someone still used that word. But that's is the name of one of her husband's songs. One that made them a schitt ton of money.

And it's not just her. It a LOT of people. I'm sick of the double standard.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Let's just completely rewrite history to suit the PC crappers of the world.

When I quit hearing the "N" word come out black people's mouths, I'll take the anti racist outrage more seriously.
One has nothing to do with the other.
flan
Oh yes it does.
Want to taken seriously? Walk the walk, don't just talk the talk.

So how many of those 9 people killed used the "N" word?

And rappers and thugs use the word...How in the world is the average Black person responsible for that?

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Let's just completely rewrite history to suit the PC crappers of the world.

When I quit hearing the "N" word come out black people's mouths, I'll take the anti racist outrage more seriously.
One has nothing to do with the other.
flan
Oh yes it does.
Want to taken seriously? Walk the walk, don't just talk the talk.
So how many of those 9 people killed used the "N" word?
And rappers and thugs use the word...How in the world is the average Black person responsible for that?
flan

I'd be willing to bet each and every one of them.

And when you don't say anything, you are agreeing.

burns07 · Guru

don't really give a damn what walmart decided to sell / not sell--absolutely irrelevant as it doesn't matter a bit--what does matter is this--go for yourself to Antietam, Gettysburg or any of the many other Civil War battlefields--walk the ground and see with your mind what happened in those places--walk over the ground of Pickett's Charge and consider what those men did ( the majority of them ordinary citizens not wealthy plantation owners and many were very young with their whole lives ahead of them )--see if you can feel, even for a moment, what those men must have felt and maybe you'll understand--nothing the pc crowd, the liberal apologists, the " white guilt " purveyors, the talking heads even the real racists say or do will ever diminish the courage and sacrifice of those brave men--ever

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

burns07 wrote:

don't really give a damn what walmart decided to sell / not sell--absolutely irrelevant as it doesn't matter a bit--what does matter is this--go for yourself to Antietam, Gettysburg or any of the many other Civil War battlefields--walk the ground and see with your mind what happened in those places--walk over the ground of Pickett's Charge and consider what those men did ( the majority of them ordinary citizens not wealthy plantation owners and many were very young with their whole lives ahead of them )--see if you can feel, even for a moment, what those men must have felt and maybe you'll understand--nothing the pc crowd, the liberal apologists, the " white guilt " purveyors, the talking heads even the real racists say or do will ever diminish the courage and sacrifice of those brave men--ever

Beautifully said Burns. I live very near a Civil war battlefield. Generally we used it for dog walking & enjoying but we've visited the landmarks & the museum. There are a few ruins of houses that were taken by one side or the other. When I see the ruin & read the plaques it does bring it home. There is also a graveyard I've visited.

Sadly the rednecks around here flying the rebel flag are bigots & use it as a hate sign.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Let's just completely rewrite history to suit the PC crappers of the world.

When I quit hearing the "N" word come out black people's mouths, I'll take the anti racist outrage more seriously.
One has nothing to do with the other.
flan
Oh yes it does.
Want to taken seriously? Walk the walk, don't just talk the talk.
So how many of those 9 people killed used the "N" word?
And rappers and thugs use the word...How in the world is the average Black person responsible for that?
flan
I'd be willing to bet each and every one of them.
And when you don't say anything, you are agreeing.

And you "know" this HOW?

DH1 hated the word, he said that it could never be redeemed.

flan

burns07 · Guru

lord, the word " n y g g e r " pre-dates the civil war by over a century--originally used to identify peoples / tribes living in proximity to the Niger River in western Africa

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

burns07 wrote:

lord, the word " n y g g e r " pre-dates the civil war by over a century--originally used to identify peoples / tribes living in proximity to the Niger River in western Africa

And, as has already been stated, the connotation now is NOT a positive one.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Let's just completely rewrite history to suit the PC crappers of the world.

When I quit hearing the "N" word come out black people's mouths, I'll take the anti racist outrage more seriously.
One has nothing to do with the other.
flan
Oh yes it does.
Want to taken seriously? Walk the walk, don't just talk the talk.
So how many of those 9 people killed used the "N" word?
And rappers and thugs use the word...How in the world is the average Black person responsible for that?
flan
I'd be willing to bet each and every one of them.
And when you don't say anything, you are agreeing.
And you "know" this HOW?
DH1 hated the word, he said that it could never be redeemed.
flan

She didn't say she "knew" said she'd be willing to bet and what your DH1 thought has nothing to do with it.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Those who KNOW me know that my first husband was Black.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

I've heard FAR more black people than white use the term. They use it in casual conversation. Much like Denzel did in Training Day. That's how it's used around here...

Tinydancer · Guru

So he speaks for all black people? I'm not sure why that matters.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Honestly, I have never heard a white person use that word. I have only heard black people use it. I am talking about people using it in front of me, in person. Not talking about TV or movies.

FNW · Guru

My grandfather used to use it to reference the race. He wasn't trying to be derogatory, but I would cringe and correct him each time. He would have been 100 last Sunday.

Ohfour · Hooker

My mother says it. All The Time. We grew up hearing it from her, but we didn't hear it from anyone else. Except black people...
Really, here, it's used as a term of endearment. It's either OK or its not.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I've never heard either of my sons use it.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
I've never heard either of my sons use it.

flan

I am happy to hear that. smile

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I don't want to be a stereotypical white girl and say "I have a black friend" but I actually DO and he and his family do NOT use that word. I worked with several people of all different races and that word was not used in my presence. Maybe they used it amongst themselves, but even if you said it in the break room it was grounds for termination.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I've never heard either of my sons use it.

flan
I am happy to hear that.

I don't care how old they are, I'd likely smack them.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Mellow Momma wrote:
I don't want to be a stereotypical white girl and say "I have a black friend" but I actually DO and he and his family do NOT use that word. I worked with several people of all different races and that word was not used in my presence. Maybe they used it amongst themselves, but even if you said it in the break room it was grounds for termination.

You are relating your experience, just as I was relating mine.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
My mother says it. All The Time. We grew up hearing it from her, but we didn't hear it from anyone else. Except black people...
Really, here, it's used as a term of endearment. It's either OK or its not.

That's interesting.

Do you see more men using the word or more women?

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
My mother says it. All The Time. We grew up hearing it from her, but we didn't hear it from anyone else. Except black people...
Really, here, it's used as a term of endearment. It's either OK or its not.
That's interesting.
Do you see more men using the word or more women?
flan

Definitely more men. Come to think of it, I've rarely heard a black woman say it. And when I have, she was talking about a man...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
My mother says it. All The Time. We grew up hearing it from her, but we didn't hear it from anyone else. Except black people...
Really, here, it's used as a term of endearment. It's either OK or its not.
That's interesting.
Do you see more men using the word or more women?
flan
Definitely more men. Come to think of it, I've rarely heard a black woman say it. And when I have, she was talking about a man...

So it means "bro" or "bud?"

flan

FNW · Guru

I've heard it used by black men as a term of endearment. Usually busting each other's chops sort of way.

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
My mother says it. All The Time. We grew up hearing it from her, but we didn't hear it from anyone else. Except black people...
Really, here, it's used as a term of endearment. It's either OK or its not.
That's interesting.
Do you see more men using the word or more women?
flan
Definitely more men. Come to think of it, I've rarely heard a black woman say it. And when I have, she was talking about a man...
So it means "bro" or "bud?"
flan

It doesn't matter what it means. It's either acceptable or its not...

And when it's a black woman using it, it definitely doesn't mean bro or bud...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Oh, I definitely DON'T think it's acceptable.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Like I said, when it becomes bad for everyone to use it, I'll take the racism comments seriously.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Racism exists, whether or not you choose to believe it.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Racism exists, whether or not you choose to believe it.

flan

Yes, it does. But when the loudest screamers are racists themselves like Sharpton and Jackson, it's hard to take them seriously.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Oh I didn't say it didnt. I am well aware it does.

I also see the double standard.

So you, general you, want me to take you seriously when you squawk about racism, then you better make sure you ain't guilty of it yourself.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

But just because those two men are idiots doesn't mean racism doesn't exist elsewhere. Just because a man uses the N word with his friends (I think it's wrong but whatever) doesn't mean he doesn't experience racism in his life.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

You're right.

But don't call another out for the very thing you are doing.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
But just because those two men are idiots doesn't mean racism doesn't exist elsewhere. Just because a man uses the N word with his friends (I think it's wrong but whatever) doesn't mean he doesn't experience racism in his life.

No one said otherwise. But, if someone is REALLY the victim of racism, they should not be wanting to use those terms. There is a difference between actually being a victim of racism, and using racism as an excuse.

Tinydancer · Guru

I'm with lily. If you use the n word even if it's to joke with a friend then I can't take it serious when you start crying about racism. Either it's a racist word for all or a racist word for none and we all know it's racist at this point in history.

burns07 · Guru

Yes, it does. But when the loudest screamers are racists themselves like Sharpton and Jackson, it's hard to take them seriously.
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amen--have always taken issue with the double-standard and will normally not tolerate racist / sexist remarks of any kind ( especially in a business environment )-- if someone ( outside of our business environment ) is foolish enough to call me a " cracker " I usually respond by calling them a " nygger "--sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander

you wouldn't tolerate me behaving as a racist, am damn sure not going to tolerate you behaving like one

Ohfour · Hooker

Yeah, Jesse Jackson was caught calling Obama a n****r. He apologized. If ANYONE from Fox News had called him that, there would have been blood...

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Tinydancer wrote:
I'm with lily. If you use the n word even if it's to joke with a friend then I can't take it serious when you start crying about racism. Either it's a racist word for all or a racist word for none and we all know it's racist at this point in history.

I partially agree with you. I think it's either a good word or a bad word, it shouldn't depend on who uses it. That said, what a man calls his friend has no bearing on whether or not he experiences actual racism and we should take him seriously when he says he experiences it.

Ohfour · Hooker

And then you have Nashville...where, as you enter the city is a 25 foot statue of Nathan Bedford Forest.

Not only is it race inciting, its ugly...

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