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Farewell to the Rule of Law: Supreme Court Upholds ObamaCare Subsidies

 

 

The rule of law was formally put out to pasture by the Supreme Court on Thursday, as we discovered that the plain text of a law matters less than what the party in power thinks it should mean.

On a 6-3 vote in the King v. Burwell case, with Chief Justice John Roberts and Anthony Kennedy joining the liberal bloc vote of Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan, the Court decided to allow the federal ObamaCare exchanges to continue distributing taxpayer subsidies for health insurance, even though the Affordable Care Act explicitly reserves those subsidies for state exchanges, and there is ample evidence the authors of ObamaCare knew what they were doing when they inserted that language into the law.

They simply changed their minds later, when the political ground shifted. Most states didn’t set up exchanges, several those which did abandoned them, and cutting off the ObamaCare subsidies could have scuttled the entire scheme.

Much of the punditry on both Left and Right leading up to the decision assumed the Court would nix the federal subsidies, sticking congressional Republicans with the outrageous burden of saving a law none of them voted for. (Let’s be honest: after watching the new Republican majority in action, it’s highly likely that they would have done so, with minimal political pain for the Democrats.) If the Internet is running a bit slow today, it’s probably because ten thousand “What the GOP Must Do to Save ObamaCare Now” articles are being deleted.

Justice Antonin Scalia, in dissent, growled that ObamaCare should be called “SCOTUSCare” now, because the Supreme Court has rewritten it twice to keep it alive. It should go without saying that this is not how the American system of government was supposed to work.

The majority decision actually does make it clear this is a pure exercise of political power. Chief Justice John Roberts writes, after reviewing the debate over what the “exchange established by the state” language means:

The upshot of all this is that the phrase “an Exchange established by the State under [42 U. S. C. §18031]” is properly viewed as ambiguous. The phrase may be limited in its reach to State Exchanges. But it is also possible that the phrase refers to all Exchanges—both State and Federal—at least for purposes of the tax credits. If a State chooses not to follow the directive in Section 18031 that it establish an Exchange, the Act tells the Secretary to establish “such Exchange.” §18041. And by using the words “such Exchange,” the Act indicates that State and Federal Exchanges should be the same. But State and Federal Exchanges would differ in a fundamental way if tax credits were available only on State Exchanges—one type of Exchange would help make insurance more affordable by providing billions of dollars to the States’ citizens; the other type of Exchange would not.

What an amazing pile of drivel, so utterly unworthy of the Supreme Court. And what a dangerous precedent to set for the final destruction of the American system of limited powers and equal branches of government. The proper remedy for a poorly-written “ambiguous” law is to send it back to the legislature to fix it, not let a block of liberal justices declare that ambiguous language is the gateway to even greater power.

Writing laws clearly is foolish under this precedent, at least for the acolytes of Big Government. Far better to slip in ambiguous language that can be read however the Party finds expedient down the line.

Also, the Left has strong incentives to pass badly-designed laws that cannot survive the proper interpretation of American constitutional law, because Roberts has twice now demonstrated that the American system will be torn apart and rewritten to keep the bad law alive. Roberts has issued an unlimited Cloward-Piven “orchestrated chaos” hunting license to every Democrat president and their congressional allies. Write your laws to inflict maximum damage on the American system – the most damage possible to freedom of religion, freedom of speech, property rights, and the very rule of law itself – and the Roberts court will make sure your legislative bombs destroy their targets.

If 45 states had set up ObamaCare exchanges, you can bet the exact opposite meaning of the “state exchange” line would have been insisted upon by Democrats… and Justice Roberts would have backed them all the way. The rest of the Roberts decision looks at what other parts of the Affordable Care Act imply about what its drafters probably wanted to happen. All of that language could have easily been reversed to insist that what the architects of the ACA really wanted was to punish state governments for refusing to do their part for the Peoples’ Glorious Health Care Reform by setting up exchanges.

The one sure bet is that every ambiguous law will be interpreted in a way that expands government power and reduces personal freedom – in this case, the freedom to keep your own money and spend it as you see fit, since those subsidies amount to forcing some people to pay for part of other peoples’ health insurance premiums.

Roberts writes that: “The combination of no tax credits and an ineffective coverage requirement could well push a State’s individual insurance market into a death spiral,” citing several studies to that effect. This becomes a reason for the judiciary to legislate by once again rewriting a bad law to save it from the consequences of its drafters’ foolishness.

It’s increasingly difficult to see what we need Congress for, at least in its current large and expensive incarnation – why not go with the model used by totalitarian countries such as Iran, with a small “council” that drafts legislation in accordance with the ruler’s wishes (after the ruler has wisely divined what the public wants and needs, of course) and a mighty judiciary to make long-term fixes that the ruler can’t easily implement by executive decree?

We spend a gigantic amount of money on electing Congress and the Senate, and keeping them in high style while they live in Washington and accumulate ridiculous fortunes wildly out of proportion to their salaries. What’s the point of that expense, if their only purpose is to enable unlimited powers for the executive and judiciary? That’s a pretense of republican representation, a theft of moral authority our new endlessly mutating super-laws do not deserve.

Justice Scalia begins his dissent by noting, “This case requires us to decide whether someone who buys insurance on an Exchange established by the Secretary gets tax credits. You would think the answer would be obvious – so obvious there would hardly be a need for the Supreme Court to hear a case about it.” Of course, six of his colleagues reached the opposite conclusion by putting politics over the rule of law, so Scalia goes nuclear – and makes a very cogent point about how Roberts’ analysis of what the ACA authors “really meant” makes no attempt to explain why they inserted the language Roberts judges to be meaningless:

Words no longer have meaning if an Exchange that is not established by a State is “established by the State.” It is hard to come up with a clearer way to limit tax credits to state Exchanges than to use the words “established by the State.” And it is hard to come up with a reason to include the words “by the State” other than the purpose of limiting credits to state Exchanges.

“[T]he plain, obvious, and rational meaning of a statute is always to be preferred to any curious, narrow, hidden sense that nothing but the exigency of a hard case and the ingenuity and study of an acute and powerful intellect would discover.” Lynch v. Alworth-Stephens Co., 267 U. S. 364, 370 (1925) (internal quotation marks omitted.)

Under all the usual rules of interpretation, in short, the Government should lose this case. But normal rules of interpretation seem always to yield to the overriding principle of the present Court: The Affordable Care Act must be saved.

As to the business of seeking hidden meaning by considering the political “context” of a law, Scalia growls, “I wholeheartedly agree with the Court that sound interpretation requires paying attention to the whole law, not homing in on isolated words or even isolated sections. Context always matters. Let us not forget, however, why context matters: It is a tool for understanding the terms of the law, not an excuse for rewriting them.”

Not any more, Justice Scalia. A new post-Republic age has dawned, in which laws are merely vessels for gigantic grants of raw power, which the State will never surrender, no matter how clearly it fails to live up to the premises under which the power was seized. ObamaCare lives. The rule of law is dead.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/25/farewell-to-the-rule-of-law-supreme-court-upholds-obamacare-subsidies/

 



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Nobody wants to deal with the fallout of undoing it now.

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They're scrambling to pay for it now.

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You mean they are scrambling to find ways to make you and me pay for it.

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This subsidy thing is crap. It's just health insurance welfare.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

You mean they are scrambling to find ways to make you and me pay for it.


 Yes, that's what I mean.  



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Well, there is going to stunned amazement when people find out that Health INSURANCE is not the same thing as health CARE. And, that having some ACA laminated card that says you are insured doesn't actually mean you will receive health CARE. 2 completely different things people. And, if you think doctors and other medical professionals are going to lay down and become indentured servants of the State, that ain't happening.

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This subsidy thing is crap. It's just health insurance welfare.


To me, "health insurance welfare" means something like the Canadian and British systems, where the government TELLS PEOPLE what health care they are allowed to have, which doctors to go to, what life saving services they're NOT going to get because they're "redundant" / retired / too old / not productive / not worth keeping alive. 

 

This is not like that at all. This is insurance purchased from private insurance companies, each with it's own plans and coverage, it's own provider networks.

Just like the insurance coverage my employer provides (and sells me for my spouse / family), the insurance company has in-network providers whose charges are set by contract.

I can go out of plan and pay for that myself. This is NOT "welfare".

And the ACA coverage is subsidized based on income level, and it COULD provide "welfare" coverage through Medicaid. But the buyer gets to make choices.

 

In England and Canada, only the wealthy get to make choices.

 

 



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That's what is happening with Ocare.


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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Well, there is going to stunned amazement when people find out that Health INSURANCE is not the same thing as health CARE. And, that having some ACA laminated card that says you are insured doesn't actually mean you will receive health CARE. 2 completely different things people. And, if you think doctors and other medical professionals are going to lay down and become indentured servants of the State, that ain't happening.


This sounds JUST LIKE the arguments before Medicare started. 

"No good doctor will take Medicare".

"No one will get to see a doctor".

"No doctors will take this stupid insurance."

"The doctors will all go broke and quit practicing medicine".

 

Guess what ...

some doctors did retire.

And a lot more got filthy rich, by limiting the time spent with each patient (not good), seeing a lot MORE patients, and doing a lot MORE STUFF they could get paid for.

The doctors adapted, and the elderly patients are living longer.

 

 



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True. But we are reaching limits to how fast u can process pts. Doctors adjusted by increasing volume . That is really maxxed out now. Oh they will see pts. But they wont bust their arses to do it if the financial incentives arent there.

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I have to admit, I was completely flummoxed when I heard of this ruling.

As Justice Scalia said in his rebuttal: "Under all the usual rules of interpretation, in short, the Government should lose this case. But normal rules of interpretation seem always to yield to the overriding principle of the present Court: The Affordable Care Act must be saved."

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True. But we are reaching limits to how fast u can process pts. Doctors adjusted by increasing volume . That is really maxed out now. Oh they will see pts. But they wont bust their arses to do it if the financial incentives arent there.


This has been impacted by the use of computers. 

Used to be someone in the doctor's office had to file paper forms for Medicare and Medicaid patients visits and treatment. Some told me that it cost them $16 to do the paperwork, and then reimbursement was $6.

Now it's done online, in seconds. And reimbursement has gone up, it's no longer $6.

 



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None of my doctors are taking any of the new Obamacare plans.

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None of my doctors are taking any of the new Obamacare plans.


 deja vu all over again.



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Scalia had this one right. His dissent is correct. Of course, he's one of the justices that cares more about upholding the law and the constitution than giving into political pressure.

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I have a real issue with the fines for not having insurance.

And there are exceptions to having it.

Why not have a form with taxes that itemize your health care for the year, what you have paid, and if you have paid the bills, you don't pay the fine.

And there are millions who don't even file taxes. How are they going to enforce with them?

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None of my doctors are taking any of the new Obamacare plans.


 deja vu all over again.


 Are you telling me I'm lying?



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I have a real issue with the fines for not having insurance.

And there are exceptions to having it.

Why not have a form with taxes that itemize your health care for the year, what you have paid, and if you have paid the bills, you don't pay the fine.

And there are millions who don't even file taxes. How are they going to enforce with them?


 My ex doesn't file tax returns.  He would get money back every year if he did and that money would go to me so he just doesn't file.  It's really stupid on his part because his debt would be paid off faster but he doesn't see it that way.



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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

None of my doctors are taking any of the new Obamacare plans.


 deja vu all over again.


 Are you telling me I'm lying?


NO !!! 

I would NEVER say that!

I'm saying these are the same arguments I heard over and over when Medicare was being introduced. THAT's the "deja vu"



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lilyofcourse wrote:

I have a real issue with the fines for not having insurance.

And there are exceptions to having it.

Why not have a form with taxes that itemize your health care for the year, what you have paid, and if you have paid the bills, you don't pay the fine.

And there are millions who don't even file taxes. How are they going to enforce with them?


 My ex doesn't file tax returns.  He would get money back every year if he did and that money would go to me so he just doesn't file.  It's really stupid on his part because his debt would be paid off faster but he doesn't see it that way.


I don't like your ex. He turned out to be a real jerk, imho. 



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Just a quick note here, and that is all, but DS could not get private insurance for years. Their reasoning was due to his stroke. They told him it would be six months before he was eligible for private insurance, last month. (note, he has been trying to get insurance for quite awhile) Okay, fine, but the state wouldn't cover him because he made to much money. Okay, fine, so he's left in limbo which is not suppose to happen, right?
He was notified today that he can get insurance now. What the heck happened?
It will be Wednesday before I'm back. I don't have a clue as to why he is suddenly eligible to get private insurance.
Sorry for the interruption. And if you have any ideas, throw them out there, please. :)

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ed11563 wrote:
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lilyofcourse wrote:

I have a real issue with the fines for not having insurance.

And there are exceptions to having it.

Why not have a form with taxes that itemize your health care for the year, what you have paid, and if you have paid the bills, you don't pay the fine.

And there are millions who don't even file taxes. How are they going to enforce with them?


 My ex doesn't file tax returns.  He would get money back every year if he did and that money would go to me so he just doesn't file.  It's really stupid on his part because his debt would be paid off faster but he doesn't see it that way.


I don't like your ex. He turned out to be a real jerk, imho. 


 He can be a jerk all he wants.  I haven't talked to him in five years.  Last time we went to court he owed $60,000 in child support and is paying it back at a rate so small it will take the rest of his life to pay off.  But I don't have to deal with him.  The state garnished his disability check and sends it to me.



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None of my doctors are taking any of the new Obamacare plans.


 deja vu all over again.


 Are you telling me I'm lying?


NO !!! 

I would NEVER say that!

I'm saying these are the same arguments I heard over and over when Medicare was being introduced. THAT's the "deja vu"


 Being a nurse, what I have found is when we call around for referrals the doctors will take a small handful of patients on whatever the new plan is.  That way they can't be accused of not taking any at all.  But they keep the number small and once they are full of those patients you get the same line from everyone.  "We're not taking any new Medicare patients right now."



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Just a quick note here, and that is all, but DS could not get private insurance for years. Their reasoning was due to his stroke. They told him it would be six months before he was eligible for private insurance, last month. (note, he has been trying to get insurance for quite awhile) Okay, fine, but the state wouldn't cover him because he made to much money. Okay, fine, so he's left in limbo which is not suppose to happen, right?
He was notified today that he can get insurance now. What the heck happened?
It will be Wednesday before I'm back. I don't have a clue as to why he is suddenly eligible to get private insurance.
Sorry for the interruption. And if you have any ideas, throw them out there, please. :)


Possibly something caused by ObamaCare? They cannot exclude people from coverage due to pre-existing conditions. 

 

 



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Just a quick note here, and that is all, but DS could not get private insurance for years. Their reasoning was due to his stroke. They told him it would be six months before he was eligible for private insurance, last month. (note, he has been trying to get insurance for quite awhile) Okay, fine, but the state wouldn't cover him because he made to much money. Okay, fine, so he's left in limbo which is not suppose to happen, right?
He was notified today that he can get insurance now. What the heck happened?
It will be Wednesday before I'm back. I don't have a clue as to why he is suddenly eligible to get private insurance.
Sorry for the interruption. And if you have any ideas, throw them out there, please. :)


Possibly something caused by ObamaCare? They cannot exclude people from coverage due to pre-existing conditions. 

 

 


Sorry to burst the bubble, ed, but yes, private insurance still excludes. They find creative ways to exclude now.

Anyway, DS told me why he suddenly has insurance. Since he and his DGF are in a domestic relationship, her insurance (thru employer) is now forced to cover him. Otherwise it would be considered discrimination toward straight domestic relationships.

I about died laughing. 



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