I would not try to force them to accept my beliefs. I would live my life as I do, quietly. I would not try to force someone to accept my lifestyle as normal, if they do not consider it to be.
Why would you be insulted, personally? What stake do you have in this fight?
My beliefs might be insulting to gays, but gays belief that performing unnatural sexual acts is "normal" and "beautiful" is insulting to me. But unlike this movement, I'm not trying to force anyone to accept my beliefs.
I would not try to force them to accept my beliefs. I would live my life as I do, quietly. I would not try to force someone to accept my lifestyle as normal, if they do not consider it to be.
Is the mere fact of them being allowed to get married forcing you to accept their lifestyle as normal? Or would you have to invited to the wedding for the force to be real?
By legalizing gay marriage, they are attempting to make their behavior acceptable and "normal" in society's eyes. By forcing Christians to bake gay marriage cakes, forcing churches to perform gay marriages, etc., they are forcing Christians to act against their beliefs and accept them as normal.
This has been rehashed and reiterated in many different ways. I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending this. I'm through trying to explain.
Interestingly enough, every time this has been put to a vote, it has been voted down. Even in the liberal bastion of California. This is NOT what the people want...
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
By legalizing gay marriage, they are attempting to make their behavior acceptable and "normal" in society's eyes. By forcing Christians to bake gay marriage cakes, forcing churches to perform gay marriages, etc., they are forcing Christians to act against their beliefs and accept them as normal.
This has been rehashed and reiterated in many different ways. I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending this. I'm through trying to explain.
You explain t fine. They just don't want to hear it. They want US to conform to their lifestyle...
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
By legalizing gay marriage, they are attempting to make their behavior acceptable and "normal" in society's eyes. By forcing Christians to bake gay marriage cakes, forcing churches to perform gay marriages, etc., they are forcing Christians to act against their beliefs and accept them as normal.
This has been rehashed and reiterated in many different ways. I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending this. I'm through trying to explain.
I just want to clarify, that I am against anybody being forced against doing something that goes against their religious freedoms. It is wrong that these cases go as far as they do, but people and their lawyers will go for the gaps if they can find them.
What I do want to say is that not all bakers/photographers are christians.
Not all christians who do offer these services will say no.
Not all who get the 'no' will sue.
It seems to always come back to this as though homosexuals only got this law passed so they can sue christians.
By legalizing gay marriage, they are attempting to make their behavior acceptable and "normal" in society's eyes. By forcing Christians to bake gay marriage cakes, forcing churches to perform gay marriages, etc., they are forcing Christians to act against their beliefs and accept them as normal.
This has been rehashed and reiterated in many different ways. I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending this. I'm through trying to explain.
I just want to clarify, that I am against anybody being forced against doing something that goes against their religious freedoms. It is wrong that these cases go as far as they do, but people and their lawyers will go for the gaps if they can find them.
What I do want to say is that not all bakers/photographers are christians.
Not all christians who do offer these services will say no.
Not all who get the 'no' will sue.
It seems to always come back to this as though homosexuals only got this law passed so they can sue christians.
It doesn't matter if you are against it or not. It's happening and will continue to happen. Because of this, my religious rights are being infringed upon.
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
By legalizing gay marriage, they are attempting to make their behavior acceptable and "normal" in society's eyes. By forcing Christians to bake gay marriage cakes, forcing churches to perform gay marriages, etc., they are forcing Christians to act against their beliefs and accept them as normal.
This has been rehashed and reiterated in many different ways. I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending this. I'm through trying to explain.
You explain t fine. They just don't want to hear it. They want US to conform to their lifestyle...
By legalizing gay marriage, they are attempting to make their behavior acceptable and "normal" in society's eyes. By forcing Christians to bake gay marriage cakes, forcing churches to perform gay marriages, etc., they are forcing Christians to act against their beliefs and accept them as normal.
This has been rehashed and reiterated in many different ways. I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending this. I'm through trying to explain.
I just want to clarify, that I am against anybody being forced against doing something that goes against their religious freedoms. It is wrong that these cases go as far as they do, but people and their lawyers will go for the gaps if they can find them.
What I do want to say is that not all bakers/photographers are christians.
Not all christians who do offer these services will say no.
Not all who get the 'no' will sue.
It seems to always come back to this as though homosexuals only got this law passed so they can sue christians.
It doesn't matter if you are against it or not. It's happening and will continue to happen. Because of this, my religious rights are being infringed upon.
By legalizing gay marriage, they are attempting to make their behavior acceptable and "normal" in society's eyes. By forcing Christians to bake gay marriage cakes, forcing churches to perform gay marriages, etc., they are forcing Christians to act against their beliefs and accept them as normal.
This has been rehashed and reiterated in many different ways. I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending this. I'm through trying to explain.
I just want to clarify, that I am against anybody being forced against doing something that goes against their religious freedoms. It is wrong that these cases go as far as they do, but people and their lawyers will go for the gaps if they can find them.
What I do want to say is that not all bakers/photographers are christians.
Not all christians who do offer these services will say no.
Not all who get the 'no' will sue.
It seems to always come back to this as though homosexuals only got this law passed so they can sue christians.
It doesn't matter if you are against it or not. It's happening and will continue to happen. Because of this, my religious rights are being infringed upon.
Has anyone forced you to bake them a cake?
No, but they wanted MY county clerk, (an elected official) to perform a gay wedding. Now no one can be married by the country clerk...
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
I would not try to force them to accept my beliefs. I would live my life as I do, quietly. I would not try to force someone to accept my lifestyle as normal, if they do not consider it to be.
Is the mere fact of them being allowed to get married forcing you to accept their lifestyle as normal? Or would you have to invited to the wedding for the force to be real?
It's all the lawsuits forcing people to do what the movement wants them to do.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
By legalizing gay marriage, they are attempting to make their behavior acceptable and "normal" in society's eyes. By forcing Christians to bake gay marriage cakes, forcing churches to perform gay marriages, etc., they are forcing Christians to act against their beliefs and accept them as normal.
This has been rehashed and reiterated in many different ways. I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending this. I'm through trying to explain.
I just want to clarify, that I am against anybody being forced against doing something that goes against their religious freedoms. It is wrong that these cases go as far as they do, but people and their lawyers will go for the gaps if they can find them.
What I do want to say is that not all bakers/photographers are christians.
Not all christians who do offer these services will say no.
Not all who get the 'no' will sue.
It seems to always come back to this as though homosexuals only got this law passed so they can sue christians.
It doesn't matter if you are against it or not. It's happening and will continue to happen. Because of this, my religious rights are being infringed upon.
Has anyone forced you to bake them a cake?
She's not a baker--but they have forced people out of business over their perversion.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Some of you will not be happy unless every gay person was rounded up and executed...
And this is 2015.
flan
That has to be the most retarded statement on this board. Give me ONE example where ANY CHRISTIAN (not the Westboro people), a REAL Christian has said that.
That REALLY pisses me off that you would even go there.
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
By legalizing gay marriage, they are attempting to make their behavior acceptable and "normal" in society's eyes. By forcing Christians to bake gay marriage cakes, forcing churches to perform gay marriages, etc., they are forcing Christians to act against their beliefs and accept them as normal.
This has been rehashed and reiterated in many different ways. I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending this. I'm through trying to explain.
I just want to clarify, that I am against anybody being forced against doing something that goes against their religious freedoms. It is wrong that these cases go as far as they do, but people and their lawyers will go for the gaps if they can find them.
What I do want to say is that not all bakers/photographers are christians.
Not all christians who do offer these services will say no.
Not all who get the 'no' will sue.
It seems to always come back to this as though homosexuals only got this law passed so they can sue christians.
It doesn't matter if you are against it or not. It's happening and will continue to happen. Because of this, my religious rights are being infringed upon.
Has anyone forced you to bake them a cake?
She's not a baker--but they have forced people out of business over their perversion.
You mean some of them. Just like some men have raped and gotten away with it on some stupid technicality... Does that mean all men are culpable now??
Some of you will not be happy unless every gay person was rounded up and executed...
And this is 2015.
flan
That has to be the most retarded statement on this board. Give me ONE example where ANY CHRISTIAN (not the Westboro people), a REAL Christian has said that.
That REALLY pisses me off that you would even go there.
It shows ignorance toward our feelings.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
By legalizing gay marriage, they are attempting to make their behavior acceptable and "normal" in society's eyes. By forcing Christians to bake gay marriage cakes, forcing churches to perform gay marriages, etc., they are forcing Christians to act against their beliefs and accept them as normal.
This has been rehashed and reiterated in many different ways. I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending this. I'm through trying to explain.
I just want to clarify, that I am against anybody being forced against doing something that goes against their religious freedoms. It is wrong that these cases go as far as they do, but people and their lawyers will go for the gaps if they can find them.
What I do want to say is that not all bakers/photographers are christians.
Not all christians who do offer these services will say no.
Not all who get the 'no' will sue.
It seems to always come back to this as though homosexuals only got this law passed so they can sue christians.
It doesn't matter if you are against it or not. It's happening and will continue to happen. Because of this, my religious rights are being infringed upon.
Has anyone forced you to bake them a cake?
She's not a baker--but they have forced people out of business over their perversion.
You mean some of them. Just like some men have raped and gotten away with it on some stupid technicality... Does that mean all men are culpable now??
You are not this dense...I know this. If it becomes law (and in many [places it already has) that you MUST serve contrary to your religious beliefs, then it's not like some men getting away with rape. It's EVERYONE that owns a business has to comply. Don't be stupid...
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
Some of you will not be happy unless every gay person was rounded up and executed...
And this is 2015.
flan
That has to be the most retarded statement on this board. Give me ONE example where ANY CHRISTIAN (not the Westboro people), a REAL Christian has said that.
That REALLY pisses me off that you would even go there.
Fine.
Homosexuals have been around since the dawn of time. They are BORN that way.
Some of you will not be happy unless every gay person was rounded up and executed...
And this is 2015.
flan
That has to be the most retarded statement on this board. Give me ONE example where ANY CHRISTIAN (not the Westboro people), a REAL Christian has said that.
That REALLY pisses me off that you would even go there.
By legalizing gay marriage, they are attempting to make their behavior acceptable and "normal" in society's eyes. By forcing Christians to bake gay marriage cakes, forcing churches to perform gay marriages, etc., they are forcing Christians to act against their beliefs and accept them as normal.
This has been rehashed and reiterated in many different ways. I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending this. I'm through trying to explain.
I just want to clarify, that I am against anybody being forced against doing something that goes against their religious freedoms. It is wrong that these cases go as far as they do, but people and their lawyers will go for the gaps if they can find them.
What I do want to say is that not all bakers/photographers are christians.
Not all christians who do offer these services will say no.
Not all who get the 'no' will sue.
It seems to always come back to this as though homosexuals only got this law passed so they can sue christians.
It doesn't matter if you are against it or not. It's happening and will continue to happen. Because of this, my religious rights are being infringed upon.
Has anyone forced you to bake them a cake?
She's not a baker--but they have forced people out of business over their perversion.
You mean some of them. Just like some men have raped and gotten away with it on some stupid technicality... Does that mean all men are culpable now??
That is simply a retarded comparison. No one is suggesting that rape becomes legal--but these lawsuits are legalizing religious persecution. no, I don't mean "some" of them. This is what the movement wants, and you support the movement. NO ONE is supporting some rapist movement.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Some of you will not be happy unless every gay person was rounded up and executed...
And this is 2015.
flan
That has to be the most retarded statement on this board. Give me ONE example where ANY CHRISTIAN (not the Westboro people), a REAL Christian has said that.
That REALLY pisses me off that you would even go there.
Fine.
Homosexuals have been around since the dawn of time. They are BORN that way.
flan
What does that have to do my request?
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
Some of you will not be happy unless every gay person was rounded up and executed...
And this is 2015.
flan
That has to be the most retarded statement on this board. Give me ONE example where ANY CHRISTIAN (not the Westboro people), a REAL Christian has said that.
That REALLY pisses me off that you would even go there.
It shows ignorance toward our feelings.
No, your feelings come through loud and clear.
YOU WILL NEVER ACCEPT HOMOSEXUALS.
flan
Wrong. I will never accept that homosexuality is normal, beautiful, and should be celebrated.
Some of you will not be happy unless every gay person was rounded up and executed...
And this is 2015.
flan
That has to be the most retarded statement on this board. Give me ONE example where ANY CHRISTIAN (not the Westboro people), a REAL Christian has said that.
That REALLY pisses me off that you would even go there.
It shows ignorance toward our feelings.
No, your feelings come through loud and clear.
YOU WILL NEVER ACCEPT HOMOSEXUALS.
flan
??? Duh. Nor should we have to accept such perversion. This is exactly what we are talking about. You don't really want rights--you want everyone to think exactly the way you do. A group think mentality where no one can offer a differing belief. All power to the state.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Some of you will not be happy unless every gay person was rounded up and executed...
And this is 2015.
flan
That has to be the most retarded statement on this board. Give me ONE example where ANY CHRISTIAN (not the Westboro people), a REAL Christian has said that.
That REALLY pisses me off that you would even go there.
Fine.
Homosexuals have been around since the dawn of time. They are BORN that way.
flan
So have pedophiles.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Some of you will not be happy unless every gay person was rounded up and executed...
And this is 2015.
flan
That has to be the most retarded statement on this board. Give me ONE example where ANY CHRISTIAN (not the Westboro people), a REAL Christian has said that.
That REALLY pisses me off that you would even go there.
Fine.
Homosexuals have been around since the dawn of time. They are BORN that way.
flan
What does that have to do my request?
It's one logical conclusion. Over the years, I've read many angry & ugly posts.
Some of you will not be happy unless every gay person was rounded up and executed...
And this is 2015.
flan
That has to be the most retarded statement on this board. Give me ONE example where ANY CHRISTIAN (not the Westboro people), a REAL Christian has said that.
That REALLY pisses me off that you would even go there.
It shows ignorance toward our feelings.
No, your feelings come through loud and clear.
YOU WILL NEVER ACCEPT HOMOSEXUALS.
flan
Wrong. I will never accept that homosexuality is normal, beautiful, and should be celebrated.
Some of you will not be happy unless every gay person was rounded up and executed...
And this is 2015.
flan
That has to be the most retarded statement on this board. Give me ONE example where ANY CHRISTIAN (not the Westboro people), a REAL Christian has said that.
That REALLY pisses me off that you would even go there.
Fine.
Homosexuals have been around since the dawn of time. They are BORN that way.
flan
What does that have to do my request?
It's one logical conclusion. Over the years, I've read many angry & ugly posts.
flan
As have I. You cannot even IMAGINE the Facebook posts this last week. Saying all churches should be burned, saying they intend to wipe out religion. Just read the comments on a HuffPo article. These are the meanest, vilest people out there. MOST of the vitriol is coming from the gays....
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
I accept that they exist. I have a couple gay relatives. I love them as I do my straight relatives. But I do not think their "orientation" is something to be proud of or celebrated.
Some of you will not be happy unless every gay person was rounded up and executed...
And this is 2015.
flan
That has to be the most retarded statement on this board. Give me ONE example where ANY CHRISTIAN (not the Westboro people), a REAL Christian has said that.
That REALLY pisses me off that you would even go there.
Fine.
Homosexuals have been around since the dawn of time. They are BORN that way.
flan
What does that have to do my request?
It's one logical conclusion. Over the years, I've read many angry & ugly posts.
flan
As have I. You cannot even IMAGINE the Facebook posts this last week. Saying all churches should be burned, saying they intend to wipe out religion. Just read the comments on a HuffPo article. These are the meanest, vilest people out there. MOST of the vitriol is coming from the gays....
As we have said time and time again, there are AZZHOLES in every group.
And Reason #319,445 why I don't have Facebook. It lends itself to this CRAP.
flan
-- Edited by flan327 on Wednesday 1st of July 2015 10:34:10 AM
Some of you will not be happy unless every gay person was rounded up and executed...
And this is 2015.
flan
That has to be the most retarded statement on this board. Give me ONE example where ANY CHRISTIAN (not the Westboro people), a REAL Christian has said that.
That REALLY pisses me off that you would even go there.
Fine.
Homosexuals have been around since the dawn of time. They are BORN that way.
flan
What does that have to do my request?
It's one logical conclusion. Over the years, I've read many angry & ugly posts.
flan
As have I. You cannot even IMAGINE the Facebook posts this last week. Saying all churches should be burned, saying they intend to wipe out religion. Just read the comments on a HuffPo article. These are the meanest, vilest people out there. MOST of the vitriol is coming from the gays....
As we have said time and time again, there are AZZHOLES in every group.
And Reason #319,445 why I don't have Facebook. It lends itself to this CRAP.
flan
-- Edited by flan327 on Wednesday 1st of July 2015 10:34:10 AM
The problem is that the azzholes on "your" side are winning...and forcing everyone to comply to their *******ry...
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
Sometimes I am... dense that is. Had my widom's removed when I was 14, so sometimes it misfires... specially when it gets cold.
If it's law, then you are in a pickle. Glad it's not my pickle. I have read though that some places have signed it in that discrimination is ok. I'll see if I can find the article.
Like I said in an earlier post, seems our laws make it easier for everyone. Business entities are impersonal. It cannot discriminate, regardless of the owner or the employees stance. Some find ways around it citing schedule conflicts, or stock shortages or whatever to get around it without getting sued. But most companies here know it's suicide to turn work away, (not because they'd get sued, but because the market is very competitive). If you as an employee have an issue, you either work it out with the employer, most will try to help you out. There are times you'd have to suck it up or look for another job. Unemployment is at about 23-ish% here, so work is work.
Some of you will not be happy unless every gay person was rounded up and executed...
And this is 2015.
flan
That has to be the most retarded statement on this board. Give me ONE example where ANY CHRISTIAN (not the Westboro people), a REAL Christian has said that.
That REALLY pisses me off that you would even go there.
Fine.
Homosexuals have been around since the dawn of time. They are BORN that way.
flan
What does that have to do my request?
It's one logical conclusion. Over the years, I've read many angry & ugly posts.
flan
As have I. You cannot even IMAGINE the Facebook posts this last week. Saying all churches should be burned, saying they intend to wipe out religion. Just read the comments on a HuffPo article. These are the meanest, vilest people out there. MOST of the vitriol is coming from the gays....
As we have said time and time again, there are AZZHOLES in every group.
And Reason #319,445 why I don't have Facebook. It lends itself to this CRAP.
flan
-- Edited by flan327 on Wednesday 1st of July 2015 10:34:10 AM
The problem is that the azzholes on "your" side are winning...and forcing everyone to comply to their *******ry...
They are winning because they have the tacit support of everyone.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
By legalizing gay marriage, they are attempting to make their behavior acceptable and "normal" in society's eyes. By forcing Christians to bake gay marriage cakes, forcing churches to perform gay marriages, etc., they are forcing Christians to act against their beliefs and accept them as normal.
This has been rehashed and reiterated in many different ways. I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending this. I'm through trying to explain.
I just want to clarify, that I am against anybody being forced against doing something that goes against their religious freedoms. It is wrong that these cases go as far as they do, but people and their lawyers will go for the gaps if they can find them.
What I do want to say is that not all bakers/photographers are christians.
Not all christians who do offer these services will say no.
Not all who get the 'no' will sue.
It seems to always come back to this as though homosexuals only got this law passed so they can sue christians.
It doesn't matter if you are against it or not. It's happening and will continue to happen. Because of this, my religious rights are being infringed upon.
Has anyone forced you to bake them a cake?
She's not a baker--but they have forced people out of business over their perversion.
You mean some of them. Just like some men have raped and gotten away with it on some stupid technicality... Does that mean all men are culpable now??
That is simply a retarded comparison. No one is suggesting that rape becomes legal--but these lawsuits are legalizing religious persecution. no, I don't mean "some" of them. This is what the movement wants, and you support the movement. NO ONE is supporting some rapist movement.
By legalizing gay marriage, they are attempting to make their behavior acceptable and "normal" in society's eyes. By forcing Christians to bake gay marriage cakes, forcing churches to perform gay marriages, etc., they are forcing Christians to act against their beliefs and accept them as normal.
This has been rehashed and reiterated in many different ways. I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending this. I'm through trying to explain.
I just want to clarify, that I am against anybody being forced against doing something that goes against their religious freedoms. It is wrong that these cases go as far as they do, but people and their lawyers will go for the gaps if they can find them.
What I do want to say is that not all bakers/photographers are christians.
Not all christians who do offer these services will say no.
Not all who get the 'no' will sue.
It seems to always come back to this as though homosexuals only got this law passed so they can sue christians.
It doesn't matter if you are against it or not. It's happening and will continue to happen. Because of this, my religious rights are being infringed upon.
Has anyone forced you to bake them a cake?
She's not a baker--but they have forced people out of business over their perversion.
You mean some of them. Just like some men have raped and gotten away with it on some stupid technicality... Does that mean all men are culpable now??
That is simply a retarded comparison. No one is suggesting that rape becomes legal--but these lawsuits are legalizing religious persecution. no, I don't mean "some" of them. This is what the movement wants, and you support the movement. NO ONE is supporting some rapist movement.
So all gay people are suing christian businesses?
???? No, it's a stupid comparison. however, they are supporting such nonsense.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
By legalizing gay marriage, they are attempting to make their behavior acceptable and "normal" in society's eyes. By forcing Christians to bake gay marriage cakes, forcing churches to perform gay marriages, etc., they are forcing Christians to act against their beliefs and accept them as normal.
This has been rehashed and reiterated in many different ways. I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending this. I'm through trying to explain.
I just want to clarify, that I am against anybody being forced against doing something that goes against their religious freedoms. It is wrong that these cases go as far as they do, but people and their lawyers will go for the gaps if they can find them.
What I do want to say is that not all bakers/photographers are christians.
Not all christians who do offer these services will say no.
Not all who get the 'no' will sue.
It seems to always come back to this as though homosexuals only got this law passed so they can sue christians.
It doesn't matter if you are against it or not. It's happening and will continue to happen. Because of this, my religious rights are being infringed upon.
Has anyone forced you to bake them a cake?
She's not a baker--but they have forced people out of business over their perversion.
You mean some of them. Just like some men have raped and gotten away with it on some stupid technicality... Does that mean all men are culpable now??
That is simply a retarded comparison. No one is suggesting that rape becomes legal--but these lawsuits are legalizing religious persecution. no, I don't mean "some" of them. This is what the movement wants, and you support the movement. NO ONE is supporting some rapist movement.
So all gay people are suing christian businesses?
???? No, it's a stupid comparison. however, they are supporting such nonsense.
Support? When the majority of them also only read about the suits in the news when we do? And also have the same reactions we do...
By legalizing gay marriage, they are attempting to make their behavior acceptable and "normal" in society's eyes. By forcing Christians to bake gay marriage cakes, forcing churches to perform gay marriages, etc., they are forcing Christians to act against their beliefs and accept them as normal.
This has been rehashed and reiterated in many different ways. I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending this. I'm through trying to explain.
I just want to clarify, that I am against anybody being forced against doing something that goes against their religious freedoms. It is wrong that these cases go as far as they do, but people and their lawyers will go for the gaps if they can find them.
What I do want to say is that not all bakers/photographers are christians.
Not all christians who do offer these services will say no.
Not all who get the 'no' will sue.
It seems to always come back to this as though homosexuals only got this law passed so they can sue christians.
It doesn't matter if you are against it or not. It's happening and will continue to happen. Because of this, my religious rights are being infringed upon.
Has anyone forced you to bake them a cake?
She's not a baker--but they have forced people out of business over their perversion.
You mean some of them. Just like some men have raped and gotten away with it on some stupid technicality... Does that mean all men are culpable now??
That is simply a retarded comparison. No one is suggesting that rape becomes legal--but these lawsuits are legalizing religious persecution. no, I don't mean "some" of them. This is what the movement wants, and you support the movement. NO ONE is supporting some rapist movement.
So all gay people are suing christian businesses?
???? No, it's a stupid comparison. however, they are supporting such nonsense.
Support? When the majority of them also only read about the suits in the news when we do? And also have the same reactions we do...
I have seen no evidence of that.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Every single gay person I know IRL and on fb wants to strangle someone every time a lawsuit gets going. Apparently it wasn't on their copy of the agenda at all...
I accept that they exist. I have a couple gay relatives. I love them as I do my straight relatives. But I do not think their "orientation" is something to be proud of or celebrated.
Exactly. I can accept the person without accepting their lifestyle.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
By legalizing gay marriage, they are attempting to make their behavior acceptable and "normal" in society's eyes. By forcing Christians to bake gay marriage cakes, forcing churches to perform gay marriages, etc., they are forcing Christians to act against their beliefs and accept them as normal.
This has been rehashed and reiterated in many different ways. I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending this. I'm through trying to explain.
I just want to clarify, that I am against anybody being forced against doing something that goes against their religious freedoms. It is wrong that these cases go as far as they do, but people and their lawyers will go for the gaps if they can find them.
What I do want to say is that not all bakers/photographers are christians.
Not all christians who do offer these services will say no.
Not all who get the 'no' will sue.
It seems to always come back to this as though homosexuals only got this law passed so they can sue christians.
It doesn't matter if you are against it or not. It's happening and will continue to happen. Because of this, my religious rights are being infringed upon.
Has anyone forced you to bake them a cake?
She's not a baker--but they have forced people out of business over their perversion.
You mean some of them. Just like some men have raped and gotten away with it on some stupid technicality... Does that mean all men are culpable now??
That is simply a retarded comparison. No one is suggesting that rape becomes legal--but these lawsuits are legalizing religious persecution. no, I don't mean "some" of them. This is what the movement wants, and you support the movement. NO ONE is supporting some rapist movement.
So all gay people are suing christian businesses?
???? No, it's a stupid comparison. however, they are supporting such nonsense.
Support? When the majority of them also only read about the suits in the news when we do? And also have the same reactions we do...
We've seen tons of support on this forum for such lawsuits. The one against the bakers, in particular.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
It only takes ONE suit for ALL business to have to change their rules. What do you not understand about that????
I completely understand. That one case goes both ways for everything. Sometimes it happens sometimes it doesn't. As I've said, I've seen the discrimination being ok'ed as well. So there's one of those too. All it takes is one.
By legalizing gay marriage, they are attempting to make their behavior acceptable and "normal" in society's eyes. By forcing Christians to bake gay marriage cakes, forcing churches to perform gay marriages, etc., they are forcing Christians to act against their beliefs and accept them as normal.
This has been rehashed and reiterated in many different ways. I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time comprehending this. I'm through trying to explain.
I just want to clarify, that I am against anybody being forced against doing something that goes against their religious freedoms. It is wrong that these cases go as far as they do, but people and their lawyers will go for the gaps if they can find them.
What I do want to say is that not all bakers/photographers are christians.
Not all christians who do offer these services will say no.
Not all who get the 'no' will sue.
It seems to always come back to this as though homosexuals only got this law passed so they can sue christians.
It doesn't matter if you are against it or not. It's happening and will continue to happen. Because of this, my religious rights are being infringed upon.
Has anyone forced you to bake them a cake?
She's not a baker--but they have forced people out of business over their perversion.
You mean some of them. Just like some men have raped and gotten away with it on some stupid technicality... Does that mean all men are culpable now??
That is simply a retarded comparison. No one is suggesting that rape becomes legal--but these lawsuits are legalizing religious persecution. no, I don't mean "some" of them. This is what the movement wants, and you support the movement. NO ONE is supporting some rapist movement.
So all gay people are suing christian businesses?
???? No, it's a stupid comparison. however, they are supporting such nonsense.
Support? When the majority of them also only read about the suits in the news when we do? And also have the same reactions we do...
We've seen tons of support on this forum for such lawsuits. The one against the bakers, in particular.
Some of you will not be happy unless every gay person was rounded up and executed...
And this is 2015.
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That has to be the most retarded statement on this board. Give me ONE example where ANY CHRISTIAN (not the Westboro people), a REAL Christian has said that.
That REALLY pisses me off that you would even go there.
Fine.
Homosexuals have been around since the dawn of time. They are BORN that way.