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lilyofcourse wrote:

The only thing I can think of is where it talks about being evenly yolked. But I don't think that is what it means.


Nor I. I always thought it referred to marrying a fellow Christian. 



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I read this good article my sister posted on Facebook about the mental illness people have who want to cut off their own limbs/become paraplegic, etc, and how wanting to cut off your own penis is no different. And yet people who want to cut off/mutilate their reproductive organs are brave and inspiring, but people who want to cut off their legs or arms are sick and need help. It brought up some thought provoking points.

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"Body integrity identity disorder"

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Your race and sex are not a choice but choosing to sleep/marry someone of the same sex or different race are both choices.

At the time acceptance of interracial marriage was argued as against religious freedom.

Who gets to decide, what is a religious reason.

I see arguments against other religious freedom the Amish thread comes to mind as well as non picture drivers license.

It is always a balance the a compelling interest and least intrusion.

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I think when the Bible comes right out and calls something a sin, it's a sin.

You know that whole "if a man lays with another man, as he would a woman, he is an abomination and his own blood shall be upon his head" thing pretty much sums it up.

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Those who bring race into the argument against homosexual marriage ignore the fact that it is not a sin to marry someone of a different race. At least, I've never seen anything in the Bible stating that interracial marriage is a sin.


There isn't.   



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Thanks, Husker :)

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You know that whole "if a man lays with another man, as he would a woman, he is an abomination and his own blood shall be upon his head" thing pretty much sums it up.
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I agree with you that the Bible sums that up quite nicely. Are all Americans Christian though? That's the test for law in this country: Does it impose one set of religious beliefs on people that don't believe the same?

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No. But sin is sin.

There is only one God. No matter how much someone wants to argue that. The fact is there is only one God. And one day, sooner than later, everyone will stand before Him.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

No. But sin is sin.

There is only one God. No matter how much someone wants to argue that. The fact is there is only one God. And one day, sooner than later, everyone will stand before Him.


 No, that's what you BELIEVE.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

No. But sin is sin.

There is only one God. No matter how much someone wants to argue that. The fact is there is only one God. And one day, sooner than later, everyone will stand before Him.


 No, that's what you BELIEVE.

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What if what she believes is actually the Truth? 



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God exists apart from our belief in Him. God doesn't change his ways based on how we think things should be.

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You know that whole "if a man lays with another man, as he would a woman, he is an abomination and his own blood shall be upon his head" thing pretty much sums it up.
- lilyofcourse

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I agree with you that the Bible sums that up quite nicely. Are all Americans Christian though? That's the test for law in this country: Does it impose one set of religious beliefs on people that don't believe the same?


It has now.   



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The sad thing about all those who don't believe, is when it is all said and done, and they are in their eternal afterlife, they will remember each and every time someone tried to tell them about God and refused Him.



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A pastor said something that has stuck with me since then: (paraphrased) "What if God doesn't exist? What have I lost for believing in Him? Nothing. What do I stand to lose if I don't believe in God? Everything. I'd rather spend my life believing in a God that doesn't exist than not believing in one who does."

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I don't know. I don't see that as a basis for believing. Because if He doesn't exist, then maybe I would push the envelope a lot more so I wouldn't want to have wasted my life being too conservative either.

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I don't know. I don't see that as a basis for believing. Because if He doesn't exist, then maybe I would push the envelope a lot more so I wouldn't want to have wasted my life being too conservative either.


????  That makes no sense.   



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It has now. - huskerbb

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How? Are you forced to believe that gay marriage isn't a sin anymore?

We must accept that it's legal for them to marry and for them to get all the legal benefits that come with it, but that doesn't mean we must accept the rightness of marrying in that fashion for ourselves.

This is no different than being forced to accept that Muslims believe differently from Christians or that Jews believe differently from Christians. It's even no different from believing that Catholics and Lutherans don't believe the same things. Just because one of the other beliefs exists does not mean we cannot believe as we want to.

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Believing is one thing.

Putting into practice is another.

That's where things begin to change.

Now, practicing or following your beliefs, if you are a Christian, is called discrimination.

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It has now. - huskerbb

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How? Are you forced to believe that gay marriage isn't a sin anymore?

We must accept that it's legal for them to marry and for them to get all the legal benefits that come with it, but that doesn't mean we must accept the rightness of marrying in that fashion for ourselves.

This is no different than being forced to accept that Muslims believe differently from Christians or that Jews believe differently from Christians. It's even no different from believing that Catholics and Lutherans don't believe the same things. Just because one of the other beliefs exists does not mean we cannot believe as we want to.


 Yes, it does.  If you don't conform you risk a lawsuit.  We've seen it many times, latley.  Where have you been?  If you are forcing people to act against their beliefs, you are throwing out freedom of religion.



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I'm not quite sure how that response of yours ties in with what you quoted from me.

I do agree that we have seen many lawsuits against people that were discriminating in violation of the law.

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I'm not quite sure how that response of yours ties in with what you quoted from me.

I do agree that we have seen many lawsuits against people that were discriminating in violation of the law.


They are being discriminated against for their beliefs. 

 

If they don't conform to the group think mentality--they get sued.  The government is forcing people to go against their beliefs.   



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