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Mother's horror as her newborn son is taken from her home by deputies and given to adoptive parent despite the fact she changed her mind BEFORE the child's birth

  • Kimberly Rossler, 25, from Mobile, Alabama, fell pregnant in October 2014
  • She agreed for Katherine 'Kate' Sharp to adopt her baby son, James Elliot
  • At time, she says adoption attorney told her 'nothing was final until birth'
  • She was 'led to believe' she had 5 days after delivery to withdraw consent
  • A few months later, Kimberly told Kate and lawyer she wished to keep son
  • Attorney allegedly refused to tell her how she could back out of adoption
  • Three weeks after baby's May 27 birth, deputies handed him over to Kate
  • Now, Kimberly is taking legal action in bid to have her son returned to her

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A new mom has spoken of her horror after her baby son was taken from her home by officials and given to an adoptive mother - despite the fact she had changed her mind before the infant's birth.

Kimberly Rossler, 25, from Mobile, Alabama, decided to contact a local adoption agency after discovering she was pregnant with her 'on-off' boyfriend Greg's baby in October last year.

She reportedly phoned up the non-profit organization, Adoption Rocks, and was put in touch with attorney, Donna Ames, who informed her that she had 'the perfect' mother in mind for her child.

In subsequent days, Kimberly was introduced to the adoptive mother - Katherine 'Kate' Gilliard Sharp, a 'single businesswoman' from Birmingham - and agreed for her to adopt her unborn son.

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Torn apart: Kimberly Rossler, 25, was horrified when her baby son, James Elliott Rossler (pictured with, was taken from her home  and given to an adoptive mother - despite the fact she had changed her mind.

Torn apart: Kimberly Rossler, 25, was horrified when her baby son, James Elliott Rossler, was taken from her home and given to an adoptive mother - despite the fact she had changed her mind before the infant's birth. Above, Kimberly and James Elliot are pictured in hospital in Alabama on May 27 shortly after the baby's birth

Kimberly (pictured), contacted a Mobile-based adoption agency and decided on adoptive mom Katherine 'Kate' Gilliard Sharp after discovering she was pregnant with James Elliott in October 2014
James Elliot is pictured in a Facebook photo
 

Change of heart: Kimberly (left), contacted a Mobile-based adoption agency and decided on adoptive mom Katherine 'Kate' Gilliard Sharp after discovering she was pregnant with James Elliott (right) in October 2014

She claims Donna told her that she would sort out 'all the legal stuff and paperwork', including her 'monthly gift' - a special allowance that would be paid to Kimberly by Kate, as agreed by a judge.

Kimberly says, at the time, the lawyer assured her that 'nothing was final until the baby was born' - and that the pre-birth agreement she signed in court would simply ensure she received her 'gift'.

She was told that she would have five days to withdraw her consent after her son's birth, she says.

Over the next few months, the expectant mother and Kate formed a close friendship, sending daily text messages to each other and chatting about the baby, Kimberly told The Huffington Post.

But at the same time, Kimberly began to change her mind about giving her baby up.

She says she confided in Kate about her concerns.

'I began confiding in her about my emotions. I felt myself growing depressed and found myself sleeping day in and out, crying about what life would look like once I gave my baby away,' she said. 

Tearful: Kimberly (pictured crying in a Fox interview) says adoption attorney Donna Ames assured her that 'nothing was final until the baby was born' -and that she could change her mind up to five days after the birth

Tearful: Kimberly (pictured crying in a Fox interview) says adoption attorney Donna Ames assured her that 'nothing was final until the baby was born' -and that she could change her mind up to five days after the birth

As Kimberly grew close to adoptive mother Kate, she started to have concerns about giving up James Elliot (pictured)
However, Donna would not tell her how to back out of the adoption. Above, baby James Elliott
 

Baby: As Kimberly grew close to adoptive mother Kate, she started to have concerns about giving up James Elliot (pictured left and right). However, Donna would not tell her how to back out of the adoption, she says. Three weeks after James Elliott's May birth, the infant was taken away from Kimberly and handed to Kate

'The conflict within became so intense that I knew I needed help. These weeks were so dark, all I could think was 'I hope I die in labor but my son lives. Kate will be happy and I won't feel the pain.' 

After Donna was also told of Kimberly's worries, she apparently found the pregnant woman a counselor, who helped her to rebuild her self-esteem and enabled her to see herself as a parent.

As Kimberly became more confident about her skills as a mother, she reportedly approached Donna again and said that she wished to keep her baby - despite feeling bad about 'letting Kate down'.

But the angry attorney would not tell her how she could back out of the adoption, she says. 

'I tried to tell her numerous times and she just brushed it off like this was nothing, like this happens,' Kimberly tearfully told Fox Carolina in an interview at her home on Wednesday.

Nonprofit: Kimberly was reportedly put in touch with Donna via the non-profit organization, Adoption Rocks

Nonprofit: Kimberly was reportedly put in touch with Donna via the non-profit organization, Adoption Rocks

'No involvement': In a statement to Fox Carolina, Chris Kalifeh, a spokesman for Adoption Rocks, said the firm was merely 'a catalyst' at the start - and is not involved in the custody dispute between Kimberly and Kate

'No involvement': In a statement to Fox Carolina, Chris Kalifeh, a spokesman for Adoption Rocks, said the firm was merely 'a catalyst' at the start - and is not involved in the custody dispute between Kimberly and Kate

'I didn't think there was any need to sign anything, because she (Donna) told me that paperwork was not final until after he was born.' 

As her son's birth approached, Kimberly - who was certain by March that she wanted to be a mother to her unborn child - began posting potential baby names and images of baby clothes on Facebook.

In response, Donna allegedly contacted the expectant mother's counselor and told them that Kimberly was mentally unstable and had stolen Kate's money, according to The Huffington Post

Kate herself also became angry at Kimberly, accusing her of stealing her cash, it is reported. Kimberly says that she had spoken to her counselor about a plan to pay Kate back the money.

Distraught: Kimberly (pictured in a Facebook photo) has not seen her son since he was taken away

Distraught: Kimberly (pictured in a Facebook photo) has not seen her son since he was taken away

On May 27, Kimberly went into labor and gave birth to her son, called James Elliot Rossler.

'Nothing had prepared me for the intense love I felt [for him],' Kimberly said.

'I finally had peace in my life... I had this unconditional love I have always wanted.' 

Kimberly then took her son home. However, three weeks later, while she was breastfeeding the infant, sheriff's deputies apparently turned up at her house and took James Elliot away.

The child was then handed over to Kate.

Another three weeks on, Kimberly has not seen her son since he was taken - and says she has been told that she needed to withdraw her pre-birth consent to the adoption in writing before James Elliot's birth, not within five days after it.

If true, this is contrary to Arkansas law, which states a woman has five days to unconditionally withdraw her adoption consent following birth. 

James Elliot was removed from his mother's care at three weeks old because of 'endangerment' due to alleged 'mental instability', it is reported.

But the judge who signed the order apparently did not realize the case was an adoption.

Judge Don Davis, who signed the adoption consent papers, is on the Board of Directors of Adoption Rocks, it is reported.

In a statement to Fox Carolina, Chris Kalifeh, a spokesman for the non-profit organization, said the firm was merely 'a catalyst in the beginning' - and is not involved in the custody dispute.

Meanwhile, Donna said that she worked for Kate as a 'private lawyer' and Adoption Rocks 'has no involvement in the case' - and that she was only told Kimberly had changed her mind on May 20.

'Because it was apparent there might be a problem with the adoption, I withdrew from further representation of the adoptive mother in this matter on May 23,' the attorney added.

Kimberly will attend a pretrial hearing on the case on July 24.

Her friends have recently set up a GoFundMe account called 'Help Bring Baby Elliot Home'.

The page aims to raise a total of $20,000 to help cover Kimberly's legal fees.

Fundraising: Kimberly's friends have recently set up a GoFundMe account (pictured) called 'Help Bring Baby Elliot Home'. The page aims to raise a total of $20,000 to help cover the new mother's legal fees

Fundraising: Kimberly's friends have recently set up a GoFundMe account (pictured) called 'Help Bring Baby Elliot Home'. The page aims to raise a total of $20,000 to help cover the new mother's legal fees

 
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There has GOT to be more to this story.

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 That's what I was thinking.



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I hope she gets her baby back. I can't believe the adoptive mom still took him knowing his birth mother changed her mind.

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Really, if the adoptive mother changed her mind, would you really want to get entangled in a mess?

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I can't believe the authorities too the baby from her. The adoption agency probably did something shady. The final papers aren't usually signed until AFTER baby is born.

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Really, if the adoptive mother changed her mind, would you really want to get entangled in a mess?


 Exaclty, and it makes her look heartless and cruel.



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I can't believe the authorities too the baby from her. The adoption agency probably did something shady. The final papers aren't usually signed until AFTER baby is born.


 This.  I have never heard of papers being final until six months post birth.  You can sign them at birth but you have to wait six months JIC.



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Really, if the adoptive mother changed her mind, would you really want to get entangled in a mess?


 Exaclty, and it makes her look heartless and cruel.


 She had her heart set on a baby.  Some people steal babies because they want them so badly.  I feel sorry for both of them.



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It's BS. BUT--if you arent damn sure, then you better not take the money.

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It's BS. BUT--if you arent damn sure, then you better not take the money.


 This is a pretty standard set up husker.  Adoptive parents give the birth mothers money for things like vitamins, doctors visits, new clothes, and a cell phone so she can call.  They do it in the hopes they'll get a child.  It's not illegal.  What's illegal is bidding on a baby.  And when the birth mother changes her mind the adoptive parents lose the money.



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It's BS. BUT--if you arent damn sure, then you better not take the money.


 This is a pretty standard set up husker.  Adoptive parents give the birth mothers money for things like vitamins, doctors visits, new clothes, and a cell phone so she can call.  They do it in the hopes they'll get a child.  It's not illegal.  What's illegal is bidding on a baby.  And when the birth mother changes her mind the adoptive parents lose the money.


 And that's BS.  whether it is legal or not isn't the point.  They are paying in anticipation of getting a baby, otherwise they wouldnt do it.  



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It's BS. BUT--if you arent damn sure, then you better not take the money.


 This is a pretty standard set up husker.  Adoptive parents give the birth mothers money for things like vitamins, doctors visits, new clothes, and a cell phone so she can call.  They do it in the hopes they'll get a child.  It's not illegal.  What's illegal is bidding on a baby.  And when the birth mother changes her mind the adoptive parents lose the money.


 And that's BS.  whether it is legal or not isn't the point.  They are paying in anticipation of getting a baby, otherwise they wouldnt do it.  


 You're correct.  They are paying in hopes of getting a baby.  But they also know up front that the woman can change her mind.  That's a chance the couple takes.



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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
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It's BS. BUT--if you arent damn sure, then you better not take the money.


 This is a pretty standard set up husker.  Adoptive parents give the birth mothers money for things like vitamins, doctors visits, new clothes, and a cell phone so she can call.  They do it in the hopes they'll get a child.  It's not illegal.  What's illegal is bidding on a baby.  And when the birth mother changes her mind the adoptive parents lose the money.


 And that's BS.  whether it is legal or not isn't the point.  They are paying in anticipation of getting a baby, otherwise they wouldnt do it.  


 You're correct.  They are paying in hopes of getting a baby.  But they also know up front that the woman can change her mind.  That's a chance the couple takes.


 That's BS.  She should have to pay It back if she backs out.



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Holy crapola..

I thought baby selling was illegal. If she took money from the adoptive parents, there is a problem. All benefits are suppose to go through the adoption agency. Something is fishy here.

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Kimberly Rossler, 25, from Mobile, Alabama, fell pregnant in October 2014.
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That sounds so ridiculous. 

What, did it sneak up on her in the shower? Or did she trip in a parking lot and land in a pile pregnant?  



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Kimberly Rossler, 25, from Mobile, Alabama, fell pregnant in October 2014.
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That sounds so ridiculous. 

What, did it sneak up on her in the shower? Or did she trip in a parking lot and land in a pile pregnant?  


 I said the same thing.  Like, WOW I tripped over some sperm!



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It's BS. BUT--if you arent damn sure, then you better not take the money.


 This is a pretty standard set up husker.  Adoptive parents give the birth mothers money for things like vitamins, doctors visits, new clothes, and a cell phone so she can call.  They do it in the hopes they'll get a child.  It's not illegal.  What's illegal is bidding on a baby.  And when the birth mother changes her mind the adoptive parents lose the money.


 And that's BS.  whether it is legal or not isn't the point.  They are paying in anticipation of getting a baby, otherwise they wouldnt do it.  


 I agree.  It looks like she just led the adoptive mother along to get money.



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Kimberly Rossler, 25, from Mobile, Alabama, fell pregnant in October 2014.
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That sounds so ridiculous. 

What, did it sneak up on her in the shower? Or did she trip in a parking lot and land in a pile pregnant?  


 I said the same thing.  Like, WOW I tripped over some sperm!


I'm with you two. 'Fell pregnant' is such a ridiculous expression. That must've been a pretty big sperm she tripped on wink

As to her son being taken away ... I feel for her but she should've waited till he was born before making a decision. Holding your baby for the first time is an incredibly powerful experience. I will never forget the first time I saw my son, first time I held him, first time he wrapped his tiny hand around my finger, etc. 



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Kimberly Rossler, 25, from Mobile, Alabama, fell pregnant in October 2014.
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That sounds so ridiculous. 

What, did it sneak up on her in the shower? Or did she trip in a parking lot and land in a pile pregnant?  


 I said the same thing.  Like, WOW I tripped over some sperm!


I'm with you two. 'Fell pregnant' is such a ridiculous expression. That must've been a pretty big sperm she tripped on wink

As to her son being taken away ... I feel for her but she should've waited till he was born before making a decision. Holding your baby for the first time is an incredibly powerful experience. I will never forget the first time I saw my son, first time I held him, first time he wrapped his tiny hand around my finger, etc. 


 I think that is one of the reasons why they give time to the birth  mom to change her mind. Giving birth and seeing your baby is miraculous. It's not uncommon either. Adoptive mom would have known that if they were using a reputable agency. I think it's something close to 50/50.



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Kimberly Rossler, 25, from Mobile, Alabama, fell pregnant in October 2014.
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That sounds so ridiculous. 

What, did it sneak up on her in the shower? Or did she trip in a parking lot and land in a pile pregnant?  


 I said the same thing.  Like, WOW I tripped over some sperm!


I'm with you two. 'Fell pregnant' is such a ridiculous expression. That must've been a pretty big sperm she tripped on wink

As to her son being taken away ... I feel for her but she should've waited till he was born before making a decision. Holding your baby for the first time is an incredibly powerful experience. I will never forget the first time I saw my son, first time I held him, first time he wrapped his tiny hand around my finger, etc. 


 I think that is one of the reasons why they give time to the birth  mom to change her mind. Giving birth and seeing your baby is miraculous. It's not uncommon either. Adoptive mom would have known that if they were using a reputable agency. I think it's something close to 50/50.


 I do too NAOW.  I have never heard of a woman signing papers BEFORE giving birth.  And even when the papers are signed they are usually not OFFICIAL until six months.  So a birth mother can change her mind any time up until then.  But after six months when the judge signs them the birth mother has no rights.



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I think this girl has a case actually. Here's the deal, in Alabama she can sign her baby away while she is pregnant. BUT, and this is the big but, when the judge signs the papers he makes it clear that the adoption isn't final until five days post birth. So the woman has five days to change her mind. So if this girl can prove, through texts or FB posts or whatever, that she changed her mind prior to those five days she can most definitely keep the baby. It sounds to me like the adoption agency was paying her to keep quiet. The MINUTE she told the adoption agency she had second thoughts they should have done something. The agency sounds bad if they continued to "brush off her concerns".

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Where the hell is the information regarding the father's rights?

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I think this girl has a case actually. Here's the deal, in Alabama she can sign her baby away while she is pregnant. BUT, and this is the big but, when the judge signs the papers he makes it clear that the adoption isn't final until five days post birth. So the woman has five days to change her mind. So if this girl can prove, through texts or FB posts or whatever, that she changed her mind prior to those five days she can most definitely keep the baby. It sounds to me like the adoption agency was paying her to keep quiet. The MINUTE she told the adoption agency she had second thoughts they should have done something. The agency sounds bad if they continued to "brush off her concerns".


This sounds like some money changed hands under the table. 



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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
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Kimberly Rossler, 25, from Mobile, Alabama, fell pregnant in October 2014.
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That sounds so ridiculous. 

What, did it sneak up on her in the shower? Or did she trip in a parking lot and land in a pile pregnant?  


 I said the same thing.  Like, WOW I tripped over some sperm!


 This made me think of an old Wood Allen movie.



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Kimberly Rossler, 25, from Mobile, Alabama, fell pregnant in October 2014.
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That sounds so ridiculous. 

What, did it sneak up on her in the shower? Or did she trip in a parking lot and land in a pile pregnant?  


 I said the same thing.  Like, WOW I tripped over some sperm!


 This made me think of an old Wood Allen movie.


My grandparents' generation would sometimes use the expression "fell ill" in talking about people. 



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Where the hell is the information regarding the father's rights?


 Yeah, where is that info?  Perhaps that is part of the issue.  I really hate the media for their reporting that leaves out details just to slant a story.



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