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flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

RE: Dear White Friends, If You Like The Confederate Flag, Then You Hate Me

chef · Guru

flan327 wrote:
chef wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
chef wrote:
The idea that we should get rid of something just because someone's feelings got hurt is ridiculous. If the jerk that shot up the Charleston Church was posed with the American flag, would there be calls for the banning of that flag? What if he had posed with a bottle of booze? A dog? A teddy bear? We have to ban something because a killer posed with it? Absurd.

Newsflash: That jerk would've shot up the Church anyway regardless of what symbols/objects he posed with, wore, whatever. He had it in his mind to kill and he accomplished that.

As to the article in the OP: Grow a thicker skin. Life hurts. I get that. But, the world doesn't exist to pat your back and give you kudos. Sometimes you will see something you don't like. Sometimes you will take it personally. But, the answer is to realize that whatever it is isn't personal and use that realization to grow as a person. That flag was probably hanging in that fraternity long before you walked in that room and will probably hang there long after you leave that University.

White privilege? Really? White people are not exempt from racism. You just don't hear about it.
Examples?
flan
Affirmative Action
UNCF
There are many but those two spring to mind.
Thanks, Lily.
Also, the article in the OP. So, just because you're black, I must hate you because I like the Confederate flag and am white? Really? If you were Indian, would I still hate you? What about if you were French? Japanese? How about not bringing my skin color into your world of hate? Better yet, what about the black people who don't give a rip about the Confederate flag? Do they hate you too? Or does the hating you only apply if the Confederate flag liker is white?
Personally, I refuse to buy into the idea of racism, sexism, whatever. Succeed on your own merit or don't. If a person is qualified for a job, it should not matter what race they are.
So neither racism nor sexism exists?
I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone make that statement before.
flan

Did I say that it doesn't? No. I said I refuse to buy into the idea.

Racism, sexism, and all the other -isms will continue to exist as long as people acknowledge and use them. This is 2015. How about we just be people instead of drawing lines because of class, race, whatever?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

chef, I'm not trying to be dense, but what if you "refuse" to buy into the idea of gravity? It doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

Just because we don't judge people by the color of their skin, does not mean that others don't.

I wish it were different.

flan

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I think more black people are responsible for racism nowadays than white people. They are always throwing down the race card. When a black thug gets shot by the police it's not because he robbed a store it's because he was black. Stop with the race thing. I think white people would take the race thing more seriously if it was only used when there really was racism. But in today's world racism is all over when it's not.

burns07 · Guru

Succeed on your own merit or don't. If a person is qualified for a job, it should not matter what race they are.
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precisely--but unfortunately we left the merit system in this country long ago--with the advent of AA and all the lawsuits over " diversity " it no longer matter if you were the most qualified, the best candidate for the position--what mattered instead was your skin color, your ethnic background, your gender ( in some cases )--if you couldn't measure up to the standards in place ( based on the merit system ) well, we'd just have to LOWER the standards so you could get into the program--and we can all cite examples of this across the entire employment / education / job / profession spectrum in this country--one of the fundamental changes for the worse that lowered the standards of American products and institutions ( both in reality and in perception ) here in this country and throughout the rest of the world

chef · Guru

flan327 wrote:
chef, I'm not trying to be dense, but what if you "refuse" to buy into the idea of gravity? It doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

Just because we don't judge people by the color of their skin, does not mean that others don't.

I wish it were different.

flan

My personal decision to not buy into it doesn't mean they don't exist. I never said otherwise.

-- Edited by chef on Friday 10th of July 2015 04:21:17 PM

chef · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I think more black people are responsible for racism nowadays than white people. They are always throwing down the race card. When a black thug gets shot by the police it's not because he robbed a store it's because he was black. Stop with the race thing. I think white people would take the race thing more seriously if it was only used when there really was racism. But in today's world racism is all over when it's not.

This.

JPT · Senior Member

So, you live in AZ, the last state that was "forced" to acknowledge the Martin Luther King holiday. AZ, and Idaho, where all the white cops go to retire!

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Racism and sexist are both perceived notions these days.

I'm sure there are individuals, of EVERY RACE, who truly are racist. But I really don't believe either exists on a wide scale.

No more than any other perceived slight a person would encounter in a normal day.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lily has spoken...

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Yes. I have.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

The Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of this world are not helping racism one bit.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

No they are not. I think they should have gag orders. They do anything but stir up trouble.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
The Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of this world are not helping racism one bit.

Have to agree with you there.

flan

chef · Guru

JPT wrote:
So, you live in AZ, the last state that was "forced" to acknowledge the Martin Luther King holiday. AZ, and Idaho, where all the white cops go to retire!

My state has nothing to do with my thoughts on -isms. I would think the same way regardless of where I lived.

AZ does tend to be a rebel though so I'm not surprised to learn that we had to be forced to acknowledge the MLK holiday.

Frankly, the ilk of Sharpton and Jackson could learn a few things from MLK. From what I've learned about him, he was a great man who was ahead of his time. It's sad that he was assassinated.

WYSIWYG · Guru

The letter in the OP is, indeed, well written - from a grammatical or literary sense.

The problem with it is that it's full of one-sided issues that make it about his feelings and ignores the feelings of the person or people with the flag. Does the person with the flag not deserve respect of his or her feelings and beliefs as well?

WYSIWYG · Guru

The Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of this world are not helping racism one bit. - Nobody Just Nobody

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You can say that again.