You know, I keep my mouth shut a lot and on a lot of subjects but now I'm going to say something. I 100% agree with MM. I am so sick and damn tired of you two. I like you both. I honestly do. But every single thread turns into an argument. And flan, don't tell me you don't like arguing with TD. If you didn't you just wouldn't do it. I don't care who likes who and who doesn't. The arguing is old. You're both at fault. If I were browsing this board I wouldn't want to join all this fighting. You two need to just ignore each other. Honestly, you can. If you want.
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You know, I keep my mouth shut a lot and on a lot of subjects but now I'm going to say something. I 100% agree with MM. I am so sick and damn tired of you two. I like you both. I honestly do. But every single thread turns into an argument. And flan, don't tell me you don't like arguing with TD. If you didn't you just wouldn't do it. I don't care who likes who and who doesn't. The arguing is old. You're both at fault. If I were browsing this board I wouldn't want to join all this fighting. You two need to just ignore each other. Honestly, you can. If you want.
And I told you that I was NOT responding to her. I can't help what she does.
And trust me, there are people here who make me cringe when I read their crap. I just want to tear them a new one sometimes. 99.9% of the time I have learned to keep my mouth shut. The other .01% I am human and chalk it up to being a failure at controlling my temper when people make personal insults. It has taken a long time to get to this point. It's not easy. I think some people on here live to annoy others. Just don't give them the satisfaction.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
And trust me, there are people here who make me cringe when I read their crap. I just want to tear them a new one sometimes. 99.9% of the time I have learned to keep my mouth shut. The other .01% I am human and chalk it up to being a failure at controlling my temper when people make personal insults. It has taken a long time to get to this point. It's not easy. I think some people on here live to annoy others. Just don't give them the satisfaction.
Very true! And your last point is valid as well.
I've disagreed with everyone on here at one time or another. But in the end, trust is an important factor for me.
But as we mature as a community, we have to learn to get along and trust each other. We can agree to be "friends" who don't always agree on things. If someone seems to be here simply to stir the pot and cause negative feelings I think the rest of us have an obligation to call that person out and let them know their actions, while technically not against the rules, are not welcomed.
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I think so MM. I remember when Rabbit posted the White Elephant in the Room post when the great thou shall not be named was here.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
But as we mature as a community, we have to learn to get along and trust each other. We can agree to be "friends" who don't always agree on things. If someone seems to be here simply to stir the pot and cause negative feelings I think the rest of us have an obligation to call that person out and let them know their actions, while technically not against the rules, are not welcomed.
I'm trying to let this go but when you post something like that I feel the need to reply. Again I say it takes two people and just because one has been here forever does not mean they aren't stirring the pot just to cause trouble. Also if you don't post directly to me but post about me to others that's still not ignoring no matter how many times you say it.
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Well you could always be the bigger person and just quit causing trouble. But you LIKE to cause trouble. That's what I, and some others, cannot stand. You enjoy dragging every thread into the muck. That is sad. And sick. Flan would have nothing to say to anyone else if you didn't dump your bile onto every thread. If you stopped, she would have nothing to complain about. But then you would have nothing to complain about. And you enjoy it too much. Forget the fact that the rest of us are sick to death of it.
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Out of all the lies I have told, "just kidding" is my favorite !
I like arguing, it's my favorite. You guys are lucky DG keeps me in line off the boards because I could wreak a lot more havoc on a regular basis if I was left unchecked!
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Was it a bad day?
Or was it a bad five minutes that you milked all day?
I like arguing, it's my favorite. You guys are lucky DG keeps me in line off the boards because I could wreak a lot more havoc on a regular basis if I was left unchecked!
I like arguing, it's my favorite. You guys are lucky DG keeps me in line off the boards because I could wreak a lot more havoc on a regular basis if I was left unchecked!
Arguing a point of debate and being a nasty pain in the behind are two different behaviors. One is normal and a form of social interaction. The other is sad and pathetic.
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This is the last I'll say on this unless I feel the need to defend myself again. flan started this whole feud and while she keeps saying she's trying and that she's ignoring me she continues to do exactly what she's always done and you keep telling me that I am full of bile. Unless and until you say the same things to her I call bullchit.
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I think so MM. I remember when Rabbit posted the White Elephant in the Room post when the great thou shall not be named was here.
That was ME, thank you!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!
I think I remember...but I'm NOT sure.
flan
Sorry, I thought it was Rabbit. But that thread was EPIC.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
Well TD, and this is directed at you, there are times I look at something a poster typed and I THINK "You're delusional". But I leave it at the the THINK point. I don't type it. And if I really feel the need to vent I have a few people here who will listen to me vent about how insane I think a poster is. TRUST ME. LL has gotten many rants of mine. Not asking for action but just listening to me gripe. There are people here who like you. Find one of us to talk to when you feel frustrated. It's kind of the new version of the old saying that if you have nothing good to say then don't type anything at all.
I'm not trying to lecture you or anything but I think we all sometimes look at posters and think "OMG THEY'RE INSANE."
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
Well TD, and this is directed at you, there are times I look at something a poster typed and I THINK "You're delusional". But I leave it at the the THINK point. I don't type it. And if I really feel the need to vent I have a few people here who will listen to me vent about how insane I think a poster is. TRUST ME. LL has gotten many rants of mine. Not asking for action but just listening to me gripe. There are people here who like you. Find one of us to talk to when you feel frustrated. It's kind of the new version of the old saying that if you have nothing good to say then don't type anything at all.
I'm not trying to lecture you or anything but I think we all sometimes look at posters and think "OMG THEY'RE INSANE."
Exactly.
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Ok, so let me make sure I have this straight. I am mean. I need therapy. I have a sad, lonely life. I need to be the bigger person. It's only me arguing on these threads. If and when you all start talking to flan the same way you're talking to me I'll take what you say to heart. Not once has flan been told she needs therapy or that she must be sad or unhappy in life. Sounds fair and unbiased to me.
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I've already addressed flan. Both here and in private. So I'm not sure what more you want from me personally. I don't think either of you need therapy. I think you're two people that get under each others skin. I also never sad you're mean, sad, or lonely. And yes, be the bigger person. I've also said that to flan too. So I'VE said the same thing to her as I did to you.
Now, I did add in a part to you about just venting in private. Why? Because I've found that helps me when I feel like I'm either being ganged up on or just want to lose it on the board. Several people here have gotten PM's from me saying "I just need to yell and scream so I don't get banned for saying something I really want to say but don't need to!" That is how I personally deal with it and I thought you might find it helpful. If you don't then discard my advice.
I will say that last post sounded pretty bad. I don't know what you hoped to accomplish by it but it didn't endear you to anyone I'm sure.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
Ok, so let me make sure I have this straight. I am mean. I need therapy. I have a sad, lonely life. I need to be the bigger person. It's only me arguing on these threads. If and when you all start talking to flan the same way you're talking to me I'll take what you say to heart. Not once has flan been told she needs therapy or that she must be sad or unhappy in life. Sounds fair and unbiased to me.
Honestly, There are only a few people here that HAVEN'T been told that. I know I have. I've also told people that in a fit of anger.
But you want to know what's funny...there are a couple of Geeks that I used to HATE. I mean HATE with a vengeance. We have actually become friends. As in talk on the phone, cry to each other friends. You say it won't happen...but you never know...
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NJN, It wasn't you who said those things to me. As far as how the last post sounded that's exactly how I feel I'm being treated. If people are telling flan she needs therapy or that her life is sad and lonely it's sure not on the thread for everyone to read. I don't need to endear myself to anyone so I'll say what I mean. I am going to try to ignore that no one wants to say these things to flan but they have no trouble saying to me. I'm a big girl and I can take it...lol
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Ok, so let me make sure I have this straight. I am mean. I need therapy. I have a sad, lonely life. I need to be the bigger person. It's only me arguing on these threads. If and when you all start talking to flan the same way you're talking to me I'll take what you say to heart. Not once has flan been told she needs therapy or that she must be sad or unhappy in life. Sounds fair and unbiased to me.
Honestly, There are only a few people here that HAVEN'T been told that. I know I have. I've also told people that in a fit of anger.
But you want to know what's funny...there are a couple of Geeks that I used to HATE. I mean HATE with a vengeance. We have actually become friends. As in talk on the phone, cry to each other friends. You say it won't happen...but you never know...
I've already addressed flan. Both here and in private. So I'm not sure what more you want from me personally. I don't think either of you need therapy. I think you're two people that get under each others skin. I also never sad you're mean, sad, or lonely. And yes, be the bigger person. I've also said that to flan too. So I'VE said the same thing to her as I did to you.
Now, I did add in a part to you about just venting in private. Why? Because I've found that helps me when I feel like I'm either being ganged up on or just want to lose it on the board. Several people here have gotten PM's from me saying "I just need to yell and scream so I don't get banned for saying something I really want to say but don't need to!" That is how I personally deal with it and I thought you might find it helpful. If you don't then discard my advice.
I will say that last post sounded pretty bad. I don't know what you hoped to accomplish by it but it didn't endear you to anyone I'm sure.
And there have been many threads where other posters have gotten into heated arguments: husker, LGS, ohfour, Lily...
At the end of the day, we are accountable to ourselves.
Here's the thing that gets glossed over way too much here when it comes to Flan.
You can go back through the different threads, and I'd say on more than half of them, the first post Flan makes on them are digs at another poster.
And Flan is the usually the first one to start with the insults.
Takes everything personally and calls anyone who disagrees a bully, a hater or drags things from past posts into it. Their families and such.
Or, she flat out calls them ugly names.
Yes. This is a public message board. And to me, that means a person can post freely.
But don't get all pissy when someone else does the same thing or calls you on your post.
-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Tuesday 14th of July 2015 03:07:06 PM
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Lily, I'll call you out on that one. You love to spar with flan just as much as she does with you. And you, Lily, are by no means innocent in throwing the first insult down. For a poster who claims to want peace you poke and prod as much as the next one you cry about.
TD, here's what it comes down to. We all have posters we dislike. ALL OF US. Even the mods. If you don't like someone then do your best to ignore them. There is a certain poster on here that make me want to puke sometimes. I've learned to ignore their posts most of the time. And sometimes when I do respond then I just drop it because the next post is right back to the meanness I'm used to. I don't think you're going to be happy until everyone on this board sides with you and not flan. I don't think that's going to happen. I think you kind of hope she'll get banned for treating you badly. Again, that's probably not going to happen unless she goes bat chit crazy. Sometimes in life we have to just resign ourselves that things are the way they are and we have to work around them.
I'm going to say this again. NOT EVERYONE ON HERE LOVES EVERYONE. Some of us aren't into the kissy feely stuff either. For some it's just a way to pass time. For others it's near and dear to their heart. I don't know where you fall or what you expect. But speaking for myself I know that I don't personally like everyone here.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
Lily, I'll call you out on that one. You love to spar with flan just as much as she does with you. And you, Lily, are by no means innocent in throwing the first insult down. For a poster who claims to want peace you poke and prod as much as the next one you cry about.
TD, here's what it comes down to. We all have posters we dislike. ALL OF US. Even the mods. If you don't like someone then do your best to ignore them. There is a certain poster on here that make me want to puke sometimes. I've learned to ignore their posts most of the time. And sometimes when I do respond then I just drop it because the next post is right back to the meanness I'm used to. I don't think you're going to be happy until everyone on this board sides with you and not flan. I don't think that's going to happen. I think you kind of hope she'll get banned for treating you badly. Again, that's probably not going to happen unless she goes bat chit crazy. Sometimes in life we have to just resign ourselves that things are the way they are and we have to work around them.
I'm going to say this again. NOT EVERYONE ON HERE LOVES EVERYONE. Some of us aren't into the kissy feely stuff either. For some it's just a way to pass time. For others it's near and dear to their heart. I don't know where you fall or what you expect. But speaking for myself I know that I don't personally like everyone here.
flannie! You are supposed to be minding your own business!
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
Lily, I'll call you out on that one. You love to spar with flan just as much as she does with you. And you, Lily, are by no means innocent in throwing the first insult down. For a poster who claims to want peace you poke and prod as much as the next one you cry about.
TD, here's what it comes down to. We all have posters we dislike. ALL OF US. Even the mods. If you don't like someone then do your best to ignore them. There is a certain poster on here that make me want to puke sometimes. I've learned to ignore their posts most of the time. And sometimes when I do respond then I just drop it because the next post is right back to the meanness I'm used to. I don't think you're going to be happy until everyone on this board sides with you and not flan. I don't think that's going to happen. I think you kind of hope she'll get banned for treating you badly. Again, that's probably not going to happen unless she goes bat chit crazy. Sometimes in life we have to just resign ourselves that things are the way they are and we have to work around them.
I'm going to say this again. NOT EVERYONE ON HERE LOVES EVERYONE. Some of us aren't into the kissy feely stuff either. For some it's just a way to pass time. For others it's near and dear to their heart. I don't know where you fall or what you expect. But speaking for myself I know that I don't personally like everyone here.
I don't care if anyone sides with me or not because I know what happened. I also don't want flan banned even if I thought I had that kind of power. What I do want is for flan to get the same treatment that I get when we argue but that doesn't happen. Somehow flan doesn't get the same rude and mean spirited comments for the feud that I do. Is it because she's been here longer or because she has more friends here? It really doesn't matter as it is a double standard I'll never accept.
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Lily, I'll call you out on that one. You love to spar with flan just as much as she does with you. And you, Lily, are by no means innocent in throwing the first insult down. For a poster who claims to want peace you poke and prod as much as the next one you cry about.
TD, here's what it comes down to. We all have posters we dislike. ALL OF US. Even the mods. If you don't like someone then do your best to ignore them. There is a certain poster on here that make me want to puke sometimes. I've learned to ignore their posts most of the time. And sometimes when I do respond then I just drop it because the next post is right back to the meanness I'm used to. I don't think you're going to be happy until everyone on this board sides with you and not flan. I don't think that's going to happen. I think you kind of hope she'll get banned for treating you badly. Again, that's probably not going to happen unless she goes bat chit crazy. Sometimes in life we have to just resign ourselves that things are the way they are and we have to work around them.
I'm going to say this again. NOT EVERYONE ON HERE LOVES EVERYONE. Some of us aren't into the kissy feely stuff either. For some it's just a way to pass time. For others it's near and dear to their heart. I don't know where you fall or what you expect. But speaking for myself I know that I don't personally like everyone here.
I don't care if anyone sides with me or not because I know what happened. I also don't want flan banned even if I thought I had that kind of power. What I do want is for flan to get the same treatment that I get when we argue but that doesn't happen. Somehow flan doesn't get the same rude and mean spirited comments for the feud that I do. Is it because she's been here longer or because she has more friends here? It really doesn't matter as it is a double standard I'll never accept.
TD, I love you. I TRULY DO! But you DO NOT want people to treat you two equally. You want everyone to jump to YOUR defense and to tell flan she is hateful and mean. THAT is what you want. And you honestly won't be happy until that happens.
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flannie! You are supposed to be minding your own business!
I'm bored..................
flan
Practice behaving then!
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
I will use an interaction between Flan and myself. I forget the thread and I'm not going to search for it but it was one about abortion. I said (paraphrased) that I was amazed at how much a 10 week old fetus resembles a human. Flan said (paraphrased) that I can find images in any textbook or on the Internet. Something like that. I wish I could remember her exact phrasing because the words she used left the impression that she thought I was stupid for being amazed at such a thing. For me, seeing an image of a fetus in a book doesn't leave a lasting impression. Seeing MY baby on that ultrasound made an impression.
The biggest thing I have observed with Flan is that she rarely answers questions. This confuses me but I've come to expect it. I have also observed the snide remarks (such as making Chicken Little remarks towards Lily when Lily points out a slippery slope). Never mind the frequent use of the headshaking emotion which one poster (I forget who) pointed out as being disparaging (I forget the word the poster used).
I do wish the bickering would stop but TD should not always have to be the one to take the high road. The onus should be on the one who feels the need to make the initial snarky remark (regardless of who it is) to take the high road.
While we all butt heads, we all come together at times too.
I vote this thread die.
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Well, the point is flan was chastised, so to speak, by several of us. She said she realized she needed to stop. TD said there was nothing wrong with her behavior basically. That is why we, or at least I, was addressing her. So now it's become a bash flan thread?
I swear, ya'll are never happy unless there's bickering and fighting. You ALL enjoy it.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
Lily, I'll call you out on that one. You love to spar with flan just as much as she does with you. And you, Lily, are by no means innocent in throwing the first insult down. For a poster who claims to want peace you poke and prod as much as the next one you cry about.
TD, here's what it comes down to. We all have posters we dislike. ALL OF US. Even the mods. If you don't like someone then do your best to ignore them. There is a certain poster on here that make me want to puke sometimes. I've learned to ignore their posts most of the time. And sometimes when I do respond then I just drop it because the next post is right back to the meanness I'm used to. I don't think you're going to be happy until everyone on this board sides with you and not flan. I don't think that's going to happen. I think you kind of hope she'll get banned for treating you badly. Again, that's probably not going to happen unless she goes bat chit crazy. Sometimes in life we have to just resign ourselves that things are the way they are and we have to work around them.
I'm going to say this again. NOT EVERYONE ON HERE LOVES EVERYONE. Some of us aren't into the kissy feely stuff either. For some it's just a way to pass time. For others it's near and dear to their heart. I don't know where you fall or what you expect. But speaking for myself I know that I don't personally like everyone here.
I don't care if anyone sides with me or not because I know what happened. I also don't want flan banned even if I thought I had that kind of power. What I do want is for flan to get the same treatment that I get when we argue but that doesn't happen. Somehow flan doesn't get the same rude and mean spirited comments for the feud that I do. Is it because she's been here longer or because she has more friends here? It really doesn't matter as it is a double standard I'll never accept.
TD, I love you. I TRULY DO! But you DO NOT want people to treat you two equally. You want everyone to jump to YOUR defense and to tell flan she is hateful and mean. THAT is what you want. And you honestly won't be happy until that happens.
Please quote where I have ever said this. I really don't give a rats arse whether anyone comes to my defense. I don't need defending. My point is that only I seem to be the one told I need therapy and live a sad life because obviously flan doing the exact same thing doesn't warrant being called names. I really wish people would stop telling me what will make me happy. Just so you know what will make me happy - fair treatment - something that's not going to happen because it's flan after all...lol. And one more time for the record I DO NOT WANT flan banned. Just make sure if you're calling me crazy for arguing with her then flan should get the same treatment.
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Well, the point is flan was chastised, so to speak, by several of us. She said she realized she needed to stop. TD said there was nothing wrong with her behavior basically. That is why we, or at least I, was addressing her. So now it's become a bash flan thread?
I swear, ya'll are never happy unless there's bickering and fighting. You ALL enjoy it.
Chatised so to speak...lol. Did any one tell her to get therapy? Did someone try to say she had a sad lonely life? Nope it's all me all the time so I'm guessing flan is untouchable and I will be the scapegoat. Please stop trying to say it's a bash flan thread when she hasn't been bashed one little bit.
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Here's the thing. At one time or another, we have ALL been told we need treatment, have a sad life, been called crazy. I've been called a drunk, an uneducated yokel, a liar, and many other things. All of us have had something said about us.
You let it run off your back. We fight here, that's what we do. And at the end of the day, we kiss each other goodnight and go to bed.
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Please pass the dark chocolate with almonds. I am not sure why but I've had a craving for it lately. And no. I am NOT pregnant.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
Well, the point is flan was chastised, so to speak, by several of us. She said she realized she needed to stop. TD said there was nothing wrong with her behavior basically. That is why we, or at least I, was addressing her. So now it's become a bash flan thread?
I swear, ya'll are never happy unless there's bickering and fighting. You ALL enjoy it.
Chatised so to speak...lol. Did any one tell her to get therapy? Did someone try to say she had a sad lonely life? Nope it's all me all the time so I'm guessing flan is untouchable and I will be the scapegoat. Please stop trying to say it's a bash flan thread when she hasn't been bashed one little bit.
I've said those exact words to Flan before. I admit it. And I've said them to many other friends on this board at one time or another...
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