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Pro-swastika group again flies banner over beaches, seeks alien embassy

July 12, 2015 by TED PHILLIPS / ted.phillips@newsday.com

A swastika banner flown over South Shore beaches on Saturday by a group claiming it wants to rehabilitate the symbol has sparked outrage.

A small plane pulled the banner that depicted a swastika inside a Jewish Star of David, as well as symbols of peace and love across a cloudless blue sky, just as it did a year earlier, in what a religious group called the Raelians branded the sixth annual Swastika Rehabilitation Day.

The swastika was adopted by Nazi Germany, which killed 6 million Jews during World War II. The Raelians, who also seek to build an embassy for alien visitors, say on their website the group wants to reclaim an ancient religious symbol.

 

But Rabbi Leslie Schotz, of the Bay Shore Jewish Center, said that regardless of the group's intentions, "the action itself is offensive."

The symbol remains "very raw and painful," she said, especially for those who like her who grew up with Holocaust survivors in her family and face Holocaust deniers.

Schotz, who last year authored a letter to the editor in Newsday criticizing the group's actions, said the removal last week of the Confederate flag from the South Carolina State Capitol showed how potent -- and painful -- symbols can be.

"There needs to be some sort of compassion and a realization that people are still trying to heal from this horrible occurrence that is really one of the low points in humanity," Schotz said.

Thomas Kaenzig, a religious guide for the Raelians and president of the ProSwastika Alliance in Las Vegas, said in an interview the group flew or displayed the swastika Saturday in several U.S. cities, including Chicago.

The Star of David with a swastika in the middle has been the Raelian symbol since its founder met with "people from another planet" who wore the symbol on their clothing in an "encounter" in 1973, Kaenzig said.

Asked about the offense the symbol caused, he said it was an issue of religious freedom and showed the need to reclaim its history.

"If people feel offended by me displaying my religious symbol, then I feel offended," he said. He added, "Hitler stole a beautiful symbol, so that's why it's so important to rehabilitate this symbol."

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regardless of the group's intentions, "the action itself is offensive."

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First and foremost I do not support anything Nazi. Are we completely clear on this? I hope so.

Now. This one line has become the general mantra of anyone and everyone who is offended these days.

This is still America, right? And no where in our Declaration of Independence or the Constitution or the Bill of rights does it state that we have the right to NOT be offended.

The only things we are guaranteed are life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness.

This group has the first amendment on their side. Period.

We really need to do all we can to protect that right, even if we don't agree with what is being said.

It affects ALL of us. Every last one of us enjoys being able to speak freely.

But with lines and phrases like the one I C&P, we are going to lose our rights.

Not only to speak FOR something, but to speak AGAINST it as well.

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Lily, you're right, of course.

They have the right to fly the banner, and they have a right to request an embassy for alien (non-Earth) governments.

I think that it can be GOOD for things like this to happen, because it gives parents a talking point to use with children,

to discuss what symbols mean, and what they've meant historically.

 

A "born again" neighbor once did me a "favor" by subscribing for me to some of what she called "Jewish magazines".

All gave me a way to show my kids that "The best liars tell mostly the truth."

They were very carefully written ...

and clearly written by, in one case, Nazi sympathizers, two others by "Jews for Jesus" people.

Once I showed the kids how these publications were misleading, I could also explain that people who claim to be

"Jews for Jesus" are not Jews in any way, shape or form, they are Christians who are trying to trick Jews into becoming Christians.

 

 



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And I can be offended or annoyed by people who wave Nazi flags, whether they claim that Jews should be exterminated or not.

But I won't deny their right to voice their opinions, until they start advocating or using violence.

 



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Well. If you really want to educate kids about symbols and right they have meant historically, then you need to include when the swastika was used as a benign symbol of Christianity.

It wasn't always a symbol of hate.

But notice how Satan changed that permanently.

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Well. If you really want to educate kids about symbols and right they have meant historically, then you need to include when the swastika was used as a benign symbol of Christianity.

It wasn't always a symbol of hate.

But notice how Satan changed that permanently.

 Sort of like the rainbow, isn't it.  

The rainbow is a symbol of God's promise and it has been hijacked by the homosexuals.



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lilyofcourse wrote:

Well. If you really want to educate kids about symbols and right they have meant historically, then you need to include when the swastika was used as a benign symbol of Christianity.

It wasn't always a symbol of hate.

But notice how Satan changed that permanently.

 Sort of like the rainbow, isn't it.  

The rainbow is a symbol of God's promise and it has been hijacked by the homosexuals.

 Yep. Just like it.



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