TOTALLY GEEKED!

Ohfour wrote:

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Hey, I'm a skinny person in a fat persons body!!! And it causes me mental anguish! I need "free" surgery to make me feel like the person I really am!!!!

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Me, too.   

 

huskerbb wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Hey, I'm a skinny person in a fat persons body!!! And it causes me mental anguish! I need "free" surgery to make me feel like the person I really am!!!!

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Me, too.   

 

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Me three!!

Can I go to Canada and get FREE liposuction, a face lift and a boob job? All would improve MY mental health tremendously. 

just Czech wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Hey, I'm a skinny person in a fat persons body!!! And it causes me mental anguish! I need "free" surgery to make me feel like the person I really am!!!!

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Me, too.   

 

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Me three!!

Can I go to Canada and get FREE liposuction, a face lift and a boob job? All would improve MY mental health tremendously. 

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Except for the funny thing.  I used to live in Buffalo, NY and Canadians routinely came to Buffalo for all kinds of health care.  Go figure. 

weltschmerz wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Hey, I'm a skinny person in a fat persons body!!! And it causes me mental anguish! I need "free" surgery to make me feel like the person I really am!!!!

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You ca always go on a diet. A trans person can't concentrate really hard, change their diet, etc., to be what they were meant to be. 

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Meant to be according to whom? 

I'm truly curious.

A person goes through all the surgey, the hormone treatments for life, change their name and all the legalities.

How do they reconcile that even after all that, they are still, genetically what they were born?

You can't change what you are.

You might be able to change the packaging. But the product is still the same.

It seems like that would cause MORE anguish. More conflict and confusion.

-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Sunday 19th of July 2015 07:41:34 PM

weltschmerz wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Hey, I'm a skinny person in a fat persons body!!! And it causes me mental anguish! I need "free" surgery to make me feel like the person I really am!!!!

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You ca always go on a diet. A trans person can't concentrate really hard, change their diet, etc., to be what they were meant to be. 

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"Meant to be"????  If they were born with a Y chromosome, they were MEANT to be male.  If they weren't, they were MEANT to be female.  

weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Hey, I'm a skinny person in a fat persons body!!! And it causes me mental anguish! I need "free" surgery to make me feel like the person I really am!!!!

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You ca always go on a diet. A trans person can't concentrate really hard, change their diet, etc., to be what they were meant to be. 

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"Meant to be"????  If they were born with a Y chromosome, they were MEANT to be male.  If they weren't, they were MEANT to be female.  

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If you say so. You also said that being gay was a choice. You can believe whatever you want. 

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You can believe in fairy tales too, because that is exactly what those messed up people are doing. 

weltschmerz wrote:

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just Czech wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Hey, I'm a skinny person in a fat persons body!!! And it causes me mental anguish! I need "free" surgery to make me feel like the person I really am!!!!

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You ca always go on a diet. A trans person can't concentrate really hard, change their diet, etc., to be what they were meant to be. 

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"Meant to be"????  If they were born with a Y chromosome, they were MEANT to be male.  If they weren't, they were MEANT to be female.  

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If you say so. You also said that being gay was a choice. You can believe whatever you want. 

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You can believe in fairy tales too, because that is exactly what those messed up people are doing. 

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If you say so. 

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Your opinion bares no more weight than mine. 

weltschmerz wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Hey, I'm a skinny person in a fat persons body!!! And it causes me mental anguish! I need "free" surgery to make me feel like the person I really am!!!!

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You ca always go on a diet. A trans person can't concentrate really hard, change their diet, etc., to be what they were meant to be. 

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"Meant to be"????  If they were born with a Y chromosome, they were MEANT to be male.  If they weren't, they were MEANT to be female.  

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If you say so. You also said that being gay was a choice. You can believe whatever you want. 

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 That my dear, is science. If you have a Y chromosome, you are male. This is indisputable. This is science. DNA. You like to throw scientific fact around, well this is fact. Period. If you feel like a cow, you are not a cow. You are crazy. If you feel like a tree, you are not a tree. You are crazy. If you have a penis and a Y chromosome, you are a male, not a female. And you are crazy...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Sunday 19th of July 2015 06:03:55 PM

weltschmerz wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Hey, I'm a skinny person in a fat persons body!!! And it causes me mental anguish! I need "free" surgery to make me feel like the person I really am!!!!

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You ca always go on a diet. A trans person can't concentrate really hard, change their diet, etc., to be what they were meant to be. 

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"Meant to be"????  If they were born with a Y chromosome, they were MEANT to be male.  If they weren't, they were MEANT to be female.  

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If you say so. You also said that being gay was a choice. You can believe whatever you want. 

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It's basic biology.  We learn it in about, oh, the fifth grade here in the states. Maybe they don't teach biology in Canada.  

That's because most Canadians are crazy. It begets itself...

You've proven it. By what you accept. You accept mental issues as normal. That's the very definition of crazy.

weltschmerz wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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You've proven it. By what you accept. You accept mental issues as normal. That's the very definition of crazy.

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 And you don't understand mental issues at all.

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 LOL!!!  Neither do you.

 

You just want everyone to accept your OPINION on it. 

Right! What could I possibly know about mental issues? After all, with only a measly degree in psychology and over two decades working in psychiatry, my knowledge and understanding of mental issues must be nonexistent.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 19th of July 2015 06:37:04 PM

Well. Anyone can claim to have degrees in anything.

But please answer my question if you have so much experience and education.

Heck, I minored in biology--but I didn't even need to do that to learn these FACTS:

XX=female
XY=male

Apparently they don't teach that in Canada.

Trans brains are different from straight brains. You may have XY chromosomes, but the brain doesn't mesh with that. So, we fix it. Oh, but what do scientists know?


www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan/

I didn't say all Canadians are loons. I said doctors that encourage this are loons.

weltschmerz wrote:

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Trans brains are different from straight brains. You may have XY chromosomes, but the brain doesn't mesh with that. So, we fix it. Oh, but what do scientists know?


www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan/

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  I love how you always run to "science" as if you have the market on it or something lol.  I think we could say that SCIENCE says that Caitlyn/Bruce is a biological male.  But, oh yeah, in your world of "science" you just bend it to whatever suits you.   

You can put lace on a bowling bowl. But, it's still a bowling ball.

 

 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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I'm truly curious.

A person goes through all the surgey, the hormone treatments for life, change their name and all the legalities.

How do they reconcile that even after all that, they are still, genetically what they were born?

You can't change what you are.

You might be able to change the packaging. But the product is still the same.

It seems like that would cause MORE anguish. More conflict and confusion.

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-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Sunday 19th of July 2015 07:40:34 PM

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 Still waiting.....

weltschmerz wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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I'm truly curious.

A person goes through all the surgey, the hormone treatments for life, change their name and all the legalities.

How do they reconcile that even after all that, they are still, genetically what they were born?

You can't change what you are.

You might be able to change the packaging. But the product is still the same.

It seems like that would cause MORE anguish. More conflict and confusion.

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-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Sunday 19th of July 2015 07:40:34 PM

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You should ask them. I'm sure you can find message boards out there for that very thing. I'm not trans, so I can't answer for them.   I do know a few post-op trans and they seem quite content. I guess each person deals with it differently.

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 You mean with your degree and two decades of experience, you have no answer?

No hypothesis? 

Or could it be that they are more confused, more anguished. 

Because no matter how much you change the outside, the inside is still the same.

And what's really sad, is issue of WHY they have that disconnect has not been addressed.

I do believe, with all my heart, that it is more a chemical malfunction than anything else.

 

As for asking someone who is Transgender or thinks they are, I have. I do.

And you don't see how that isn't a physical condition, but a mental condition?

Whats the difference in this and someone who mutalates themselves?

It's the most severe mutalation there is.

It's a mental illness.

Changing the outside doesn't fix the problem. It's a very extreme band aid at best.