District Attorney Thomas Spota details drivers' actions in crash that killed 4 young women
Updated July 20, 2015 9:01 PM By ALISON FOX, MARK HARRINGTON, JIMIN KIM, ANDREW SMITH AND JOHN VALENTI
Suffolk County District Attorney Thomas Spota detailed the circumstances that led to a limo crash that killed four young women on Saturday, July 18, 2015, in Cutchogue, as well as events immediately following the accident. (Credit: Stringer News Service and News 12 Long Island) (Photo Credit: Randee Dadonna)
A man accused of driving drunk consumed beer at home before crashing into a limousine that a witness said had pulled into his pickup truck's path on a Cutchogue road, killing four young women, officials said yesterday.
The driver, Steven Romeo, remained at the scene for about 15 minutes, then walked away before being found by a Suffolk County police officer, Suffolk District Attorney Thomas Spota said at a news conference Monday.
Yesterday, Spota said he was not sure if the charges against Romeo would be upgraded. a claim made Sunday by one of his prosecutors.
"I really can't say right now," Spota said yesterday. "We'll make that determination a little later on. . . . It is not as clear as one might think."
The crash Saturday near the Vineyard 48 winery, which also injured six, happened at an intersection long identified as troublesome.
Vineyard 48, the winery the eight women had just visited, is on the south side of county Route 48, a 4-lane divided road. To head west back to Smithtown, where the women's day began, limo driver Carlos Pino, 58, of Bethpage, had to go east a short distance to Depot Lane, where there is an intersection with a flashing yellow light, and make a U-turn.
Although it is legal for a limo to make that turn, Southold town police and neighbors said many drivers struggle to do it safely. Some swing wide, blocking the westbound lanes, and others have to reverse in the middle of the intersection to complete the turn, said town police Chief Martin Flatley.
"We've had issues with limousines making difficult turns at that intersection," he said. His officers issue 10 to 12 tickets a month there for improper turns, he said.
Pino made the turn legally, officials said.
Donna Carnebale, a neighbor, said the intersection needs a full traffic light. "It's dangerous," she said. She dropped off a bouquet of flowers in the median there yesterday, and felt endangered by traffic speeding by in both directions.
For an eastbound driver, Route 48 gently bends left after the intersection, but there is an unobstructed view of all lanes of traffic. The speed limit is 55 mph there.
Pino told police he saw no oncoming traffic when he made the turn, but Spota said an eastbound driver saw the pickup truck before the limo started turning. "He said the limo was turning right in front of the truck," Spota said.
This map shows where a pickup truck plowed into a limo in Cutchogue on Saturday, July 18, 2015, leaving four women dead.
Police say Romeo hit the brakes, but not soon enough to avoid the crash.
Spota said he didn't believe the limo had a dashboard camera, which would have provided video of the crash. In the 2005 murder case against drunken driver Martin Heidgen, Nassau prosecutors relied on a dashboard video from the limo Heidgen hit while driving the wrong way on the Meadowbrook Parkway. That crash killed 7-year-old Katie Flynn of Long Beach and the limo driver, Stanley Rabinowitz, 59, of Farmingdale.
The impact killed Stephanie Belli, 23, of Kings Park; Lauren Baruch, 24, of Smithtown; Brittney M. Schulman, 23, of Smithtown; and Amy R. Grabina, 23, of Commack.
Seriously injured were four of their friends in the limo -- Joelle M. Dimonte, 25, of Elwood; Alicia Arundel, 24, of Setauket; Olga Lipets, 24, of Brooklyn; and Melissa Angela Crai, 23, of Scarsdale.
Dimonte was discharged yesterday from Peconic Bay Medical Center, according to Mary Thomas, the manager of marketing and communications at the hospital.
Olga Lipets' grandmother, Lyubov Drurer, said her granddaughter came to the United States from Kiev when she was 2 years old. She was a ballroom dancer for 10 years and attended Midwood High School. Lipets earned a bachelor's degree from Pace University and is working on her master's in speech pathology at Lehman College.
"She is very lucky," Drurer said. "It's very sad."
Investigators have not spoken yet with any of the women who survived, Spota said.
Pino and Romeo were less seriously injured. Spota said Romeo had a broken nose and other minor injuries.
Spota emphasized that much is not yet known about what caused the crash.
"I must caution you that we are in the very preliminary stages of this investigation," he said.
Two key pieces of information were not yet known, he said: One was Romeo's speed before the crash. The other was the level of his intoxication.
Spota said Romeo told police he had worked at Romeo Dimon Marine Service in Southold from 8 a.m. to noon on Saturday, then went home and did some work around the house. Afterward he had some beer, but Spota refused to say how much he drank.
He also declined to say whether Romeo expressed remorse for his role in the crash, but said all of his actions and statements will be considered when his office decides how to proceed with the case.
Spota said investigators were waiting yesterday for the results of a blood test to see how intoxicated he was.
Romeo's attorney, Daniel O'Brien of Nesconset, did not respond to numerous phone calls yesterday.
Spota praised the victims for acting responsibly and hiring a limo when they knew they would be drinking. He said the limo picked them up at Baruch's house and took them to LIV, a vodka maker in Baiting Hollow. Then they went to Vineyard 48 and stayed until about 5:15 p.m., he said.
After the crash, Spota said Romeo remained at the scene for about 15 minutes and spoke to police. Then he walked about 1,000 feet away, climbed over a 6-foot fence next to a transfer station and went down an embankment before a Southold police officer found him and brought him back to the scene, where he was given a field sobriety test.
Spota said it was unclear whether Romeo committed the crime of leaving the scene of an accident, as he stayed initially and spoke with police as the law requires.
Romeo was taken to Eastern Long Island Hospital in Greenport. He pleaded not guilty to DWI, a misdemeanor, and was held on bail of $500,000 cash or $1 million bond.
Pino, who works for Ultimate Class Limousine in Hicksville, has not been charged with any crime
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I have to wonder which of the 8 girls had her seatbelt on.
Looking at the diagram and description of the accident, It seems clear that the limo driver made a turn into the path of the pickup truck.
So, could the pickup driver have avoided the collision if he's been stone cold sober?
When the limo turned across his path (completely blocking the road) did he even have time to get his foot onto the brake?
If he's swerved off the road to avoid the collision, would he have run into something that would have killed HIM?
I have to assume that the limo driver didn't see the oncoming pickup. Why not?
The driver who hit me broadside while she ran a red light, had a clear view of the intersection, the stopped traffic, the red light. and my big white SUV approaching.
She said she "didn't see". Why not?
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First of all, we don't even know if he was legally intoxicated--but the witch hunt is on. The press--not to mention the families of the victims and a lot of people reading that article--want to say "drunk driver" case closed.
In this case, however it appears the limo driver turned into the path of the pickup, so his state of intoxication should be irrelevant. There is NO WAY to determine if he "could" have stopped had he been sober--the limo should not have made that turn, anyway, so it's irrelevant.
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On July 24, 2015, Suffolk County District Attorney Thomas Spota clarifies the blood-alcohol content of pickup truck driver Steven Romeo, adding that reconstruction and forensic analytics of the fatal Cutchogue crash are in the early stages and therefore charges against Romeo will be in flux till more is known about the circumstances. (Credit: News 12 Long Island)
The blood-alcohol content of the pickup truck driver charged in the fatal limousine crash in Cutchogue did not meet the legal standard for driving while intoxicated, but prosecutors are not reducing the charge, Suffolk County District Attorney Thomas Spota said Friday.
Steven Romeo's BAC was 0.066 percent -- which is below the DWI threshold of .08 percent, Spota said.
The driver's BAC could have been above the .08 percent threshold at the time of the crash based on the fact the blood was drawn one hour and 40 minutes after the accident, Spota said.
Romeo's pickup slammed into the limo Saturday as it attempted a U-turn on Depot Lane. The limousine was carrying eight passengers on a North Fork winery tour. Four of those passengers were killed.
Another driver who saw the accident told investigators that Romeo's pickup truck was visible and that the limo driver had turned right in front of it. Limo driver Carlos Pino, 58, of Bethpage, said he saw no oncoming traffic, prosecutors said.
"We maintain that Steven Romeo was not driving while intoxicated at the time of the accident, nor did he cause the accident," Romeo's Nesconset attorney, Daniel O'Brien, said Friday in a statement. "We're entitled to see the written report and all related paperwork regarding the blood kit that the district attorney referred to."
Spota said "at this time" prosecutors will not reduce the charge to driving while impaired while the investigation is continuing.
"This is an emerging picture, not a complete picture," Spota said.
At his Riverhead news conference Friday, Spota emphasized that other factors could also affect Romeo's BAC, including height, weight, what he ate and when he ate -- all will be considered.
Investigators also are awaiting the results of accident reconstruction, which will look at speed, and forensics analysis of Romeo's cellphone and the limo driver's two cellphones.
Of the State Police accident reconstruction team, Spota said they are "absolutely top notch. They're the best."
Investigators also are still trying to determine whether there were any drugs in Romeo's system.
The BAC revelation comes a day after a judge slashed the bail for Romeo, 55, of Southold, who is now held on $100,000 bond or $50,000 cash bail, down from $1 million bond or $500,000 cash.
O'Brien filed for a lower bail and prosecutors did not object. Romeo's next scheduled court appearance in Sept. 18.
The crash killed Amy Grabina, 23, of Commack; Stephanie Belli, 23, of Kings Park; Lauren Baruch, 24, of Smithtown; and Brittney Schulman, 23, of Smithtown. The other four passengers suffered serious injuries. Romeo was injured and walked away from the scene and was escorted back, police said.
Spota has said Romeo told police he worked at Romeo Dimon Marine Service in Southold until noon Saturday, then went home and drank beer after doing housework.
Romeo was expected to remain hospitalized at least through Friday, a hospital supervisor said. He sustained a broken nose and other minor injuries.
"We are mindful that four precious young lives were lost in this accident," O'Brien said in his statement Friday. "Steven Romeo is devastated by the loss of those lives and the injuries sustained. And our thoughts and prayers are with these families."
You don't know that and neither does the prosecutor. - That's what I said.
Beyond that, the accident wasn't even his fault, so it's ridiculous that they aren't charging the limo driver.
If he (limo driver) was on either of his cell phones, he was distracted and liable.
They don't usually charge people unless they've committed a crime that lead to the collision. Like, talking on his hand-held cell phone. They will find out about that.
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The really bad decision he made was to drink, then get behind the wheel.
He's only being looked at for this because of the beer.
0.066 BAC 100 minutes after the collision? I hope they don't find any other drugs in him.
He was not even legally drunk. You can speculate what "might have been", but that is not a basis for conviction.
The prosecutor said that if his BAC was 0.066 an hour and 40 minutes after the crash, it was certainly over 0.08 at the time of the crash.
But they can't prove it.
They are talking about downgrading the charge from Driving While Intoxicated to Driving While Impaired. But not yet.
I think after the young women are all buried, and some time passes, the charges against him will be reduced.
Now I want to know whether the limo driver was on either of his phones during the crash.
They can bring in expert witnesses. An adult male of average weight can normally metabolize a beer in an hour. If his blood alcohol level was still that high - he was drunk at the time of the crash. However, it still doesn't sound like the crash was really his fault.
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You don't know that and neither does the prosecutor. - That's what I said.
Beyond that, the accident wasn't even his fault, so it's ridiculous that they aren't charging the limo driver.
If he (limo driver) was on either of his cell phones, he was distracted and liable.
They don't usually charge people unless they've committed a crime that lead to the collision. Like, talking on his hand-held cell phone. They will find out about that.
And that's BS, also. What difference does it make if he was texting or not, was drunk or sober if he turned into oncoming traffic?
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The really bad decision he made was to drink, then get behind the wheel.
He's only being looked at for this because of the beer.
0.066 BAC 100 minutes after the collision? I hope they don't find any other drugs in him.
He was not even legally drunk. You can speculate what "might have been", but that is not a basis for conviction.
The prosecutor said that if his BAC was 0.066 an hour and 40 minutes after the crash, it was certainly over 0.08 at the time of the crash.
But they can't prove it.
They are talking about downgrading the charge from Driving While Intoxicated to Driving While Impaired. But not yet.
I think after the young women are all buried, and some time passes, the charges against him will be reduced.
Now I want to know whether the limo driver was on either of his phones during the crash.
They can bring in expert witnesses. An adult male of average weight can normally metabolize a beer in an hour. If his blood alcohol level was still that high - he was drunk at the time of the crash. However, it still doesn't sound like the crash was really his fault.
No way are they getting the DWI to stick--expert witnesses, or not.
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In wake of Cutchogue crash, limo group pushes for limits on U-turns
July 25, 2015 by DARRAN SIMON / darran.simon@newsday.com
A local limousine association wants its members to limit making U-turns to avoid collisions like the July 18 fatal limousine crash in Cutchogue.
"Safety is our main objective here," said Robert Cunningham, president of the Long Island Limousine Association and owner of Platinum Limousine in Stony Brook.
It is legal to make a U-turn at the Cutchogue intersection where four women died when a pickup truck broadsided their limousine as it turned. But police and neighbors said drivers struggle to do it safely.
The limousine association said the accident has caused them to recommend that drivers don't make U-turns on Route 48 or any other main road.
"We want them to go where there is a light, or . . . go to the shopping center and turn around," said Charles Gandolfo, a board member of the association that represents 70 companies.
Gandolfo, also president of Dynasty Limousine of Babylon, said, "No one wants to see this happen again."
The four victims who died in the crash -- Lauren Baruch, 24, of Smithtown; Stephanie Belli, 23, of Kings Park; Amy Grabina, 23, of Commack; and Brittney Schulman, 23, also of Smithtown -- had joined four other friends for a visit to the North Fork's wine region.
The group's last stop was a visit to Vineyard 48, on the south side of Route 48, a four-lane divided road.
To head west to Smithtown, where the women came from, limousine driver Carlos Pino first drove east to nearby Depot Lane, where there is an intersection and a flashing yellow light, and then made the U-turn, police said.
Cunningham, who once drove a truck, said the degree of difficulty of a U-turn depends on the driver's experience, the space to make the turn, and size of the limousine.
Some limousines swing wide, blocking the westbound lanes, and others have to reverse in the middle of the intersection to complete the turn, according to Southold Town Police Chief Martin Flatley.
Michael F. Engelhart, who owns Fire Island Limousine in Sayville, said he recalled Southold officers telling limousine drivers about two years ago not to make U-turns at that intersection.
"Most limos are too big to make a U-turn in one shot," said Engelhart, 57, who avoids making those turns in his limo. "They end up doing a three-point turn."
Steven Romeo, the pickup truck driver who hit Pino, had a blood alcohol content of 0.066, based on a blood sample drawn one hour and 40 minutes after the crash. He has been charged with driving while intoxicated.
Pino, 58, of Bethpage, made a legal turn, prosecutors said. He has not been charged with a crime, authorities said.
Pino told police he saw no oncoming traffic when he made the turn, authorities said. But an eastbound driver told police that Pino turned right in front of the limousine, officials said.
Cunningham, a 25-year veteran of the limousine industry, said he too avoids making U-turns.
"I go around the block," he said. "I don't make a U-turn with this thing. It's too big."