TOTALLY GEEKED!

Lawyerlady wrote:

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I quite honesly cannot understand why anyone would be against teaching abstinence, as long as the back up methods were also taught. Do people really want to encourage and expect teen sex?

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 For the same reason the same people dont like  voters showing ID.  Go figure.

That's simply not true. I have family in Texas. Their kids are taught sex education with am EMPHASIS on abstinence.

Texas Geeks, wanna chime in?

Texas is a big state. It is likely to have some very conservative communities, but that would hardly speak for ALL of Texas.

Texas is a big state. Another thing to keep in mind is that we are something like six times larger than some of the east coast states. All this means is that per capita we are going to have a significantly higher amount of people in our state. More people=more teens. So it's natural that our average is higher. As far as Texas goes it's a very conservative state. Austin and "Went End" in Dallas are the liberal portions of our state. They are very high in the gay population. Before anyone jumps on me I'm just trying to say that even though we do have some liberal areas they tend to cluster together in tight segments. Most of Texas is very conservative.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Latest thing I could find. Two years old.

Canada’s teen pregnancy rate is markedly lower than the U.S. because of a range of factors, he said, including universal health care, access to contraception and sex education and the lower rate of poverty among young people.

www.thestar.com/life/parent/2013/01/29/teen_pregnancy_rates_level_off_in_canada_study_shows.html

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 Its cold up there.  Maybe there isnt as much sex as you think.

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Ha ha, when people are cold they want to have someone warm them up.

 

IMHO, people who think they can get teenagers to NOT have sex, by telling them not to, are damn fools.

Or liars.

Or people who WANT more teen pregnancies.

 

The best way to make sure there is a next generation to fill the pews

is to make sure there are a lot of babies.

 

-- Edited by ed11563 on Wednesday 22nd of July 2015 08:32:53 PM

I didn't say TX didn't have more cases of sex. But if you have a state with 250,000 teens and another with one million teens it's misleading to say Oh, one has a higher rate of teen pregnancy.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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I didn't say TX didn't have more cases of sex. But if you have a state with 250,000 teens and another with one million teens it's misleading to say Oh, one has a higher rate of teen pregnancy.

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It's a teen pregnancy RATE. That means the number of pregnancies PER THOUSAND teenagers. The total teen population will affect the total NUMBER of pregnancies, but not the RATE. 

 

 

ed11563 wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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I didn't say TX didn't have more cases of sex. But if you have a state with 250,000 teens and another with one million teens it's misleading to say Oh, one has a higher rate of teen pregnancy.

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It's a teen pregnancy RATE. That means the number of pregnancies PER THOUSAND teenagers. The total teen population will affect the total NUMBER of pregnancies, but not the RATE. 

 

 

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 Again, you can manipulate statistics.  But I don't have a dog in this fight. 

On the subject of college. I know a lot here will hate me for saying this but I think it's a good thing. Most people used to leave high school and go directly to college. They'd be out in four years. And though they may not have had a super high paying job they usually had a decent one with insurance. Until somehow our economy hit the chits. Now a lot of kids are going to school part time and working part time because college is so expensive. And not everyone wants to go into debt to get a degree. And in today's society you can get a degree and it doesn't even promise you a job with insurance anymore.

ed11563 wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Latest thing I could find. Two years old.

Canada’s teen pregnancy rate is markedly lower than the U.S. because of a range of factors, he said, including universal health care, access to contraception and sex education and the lower rate of poverty among young people.

www.thestar.com/life/parent/2013/01/29/teen_pregnancy_rates_level_off_in_canada_study_shows.html

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 Its cold up there.  Maybe there isnt as much sex as you think.

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Ha ha, when people are cold they want to have someone warm them up.

 

IMHO, people who think they can get teenagers to NOT have sex, by telling them not to, are damn fools.

Or liars.

Or people who WANT more teen pregnancies.

 

The best way to make sure there is a next generation to fill the pews

is to make sure there are a lot of babies.

 

-- Edited by ed11563 on Wednesday 22nd of July 2015 08:32:53 PM

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 And I think the people that don't want to teach abstinence are wanting more teen sex.  See how that works?  The rest of your post is just damn stupid.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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I didn't say TX didn't have more cases of sex. But if you have a state with 250,000 teens and another with one million teens it's misleading to say Oh, one has a higher rate of teen pregnancy.

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 You don't seem to understand how statistics work. It's not the number in total, but the number per 1,000 people.

Fighting? I'm not fighting. Merely clearing up a misconception. If you're going to talk about pregnancy rates and statistics, you have to understand how they work. It's not the total number of people.
If you want to consider that "fighting", well, I can't stop you.

First, I don't care about any of this. I raise my kids how I see fit and no one gets a say in that. Second, ed just likes to tell stories of young girls having sex. Like LL said, none of what he wrote was even relevant. Three, I'm not fighting with anyone. Again, I don't care about this thread or anyone's values about this subject. So I'm not about to get into a pissing match over "statistics". Four, any statistician will tell you that you can make statistics do whatever you want. Five, all you've done since you've come to this board is to argue with people and tell everyone how closed minded they are. I'm really not sure why you even want to be here since just about every post you make is to argue. I prefer not to argue. So have at it. You can argue with everyone else.

Where did I say everyone had to agree with me? I never asked that anyone on this board just love on me unconditionally. I don't really give two rat's asses if you think I'm wrong or right. I took two statistics classes and the first thing they taught me was that statistics can be manipulated.

You aren't even on here to address real subject or address real questions. You just make personal attacks like you just did and deflect from the real issue. Have fun arguing.