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What has happened to the concept of personal responsibility?  It seems so many people look to blame others when their own choices lead to consequences.  Why can't people understand that how you react, how you handle a situation, what you say, and what you do is on YOU, and no one else?  If you choose to lie, is your defense really "everybody lies", so it's ok?  There are several issues lately that lead me to ask this question.  How can an adult blame other people for the choices they make?



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You're absolutely correct. Some people just can't take responsibility for their own actions. I just witnessed this on another board where the Mod from a different board was said to have banned someone because the Mod was out to get them. Not because they did anything wrong but the Mod was after them. I saw what occurred and it was in no way the Mods fault but you'll never get the other to admit it.

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Society has been eroding away personal responsibility for a while now. Starting in elementary school.

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I think part of it is because we are raising "special snowflakes". And part of it is the "me, me, ME" generation. Give me, I want, it's all about me! I am right, you are wrong. It's like being surrounded by five year olds.

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Personal responsibility is one of those phrases my kids get sick of hearing from me. Any time an explanation starts with "but he did this", "he started it", "he told me to" , there is a personal responsibility talk. My nieces didn't particularly care for the conversation either, when they visited.

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But that's it, exactly, Demonia. You expect to have to have that conversation with children. Adults should really have that figured out.

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it's because for quite some time ( 20-plus years at least ) we've been raising sheep, not citizens--we've been hammering conformity, not individuality--complacence, not character--we've ( the entire " educational " train wreck ) emphasized tolerance and conformity to abnormal / aberrant lifestyles and behaviors that are inconsistent with individual merit, individual achievement and the singular ( and collective ) pursuit of excellence in EVERYTHING we do--who we are and how we live our lives

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Exactly. The blame game is getting old. And it's coming from the top...

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Lawyerlady wrote:

But that's it, exactly, Demonia. You expect to have to have that conversation with children. Adults should really have that figured out.


 They should, but clearly someone dropped the ball on teaching them. wink

 

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-- Edited by DemoniaD on Wednesday 22nd of July 2015 11:53:24 AM

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it's because for quite some time ( 20-plus years at least ) we've been raising sheep, not citizens--we've been hammering conformity, not individuality--complacence, not character--we've ( the entire " educational " train wreck ) emphasized tolerance and conformity to abnormal / aberrant lifestyles and behaviors that are inconsistent with individual merit, individual achievement and the singular ( and collective ) pursuit of excellence in EVERYTHING we do--who we are and how we live our lives


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I see it in a lot of kids my kids know. My kids see it.

It starts when the first time someone says "but he's just a baby" when that kid bites and the parent does nothing to correct it.

It grows from there.



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Entitlement is well present in our society and lives.  Parents hover over their child’s every move.  They do everything for their children.  Their child is the best and can do no wrong.  (“Who, my _____?.  Little _____ is never like that.  S/he is a good kid”).  There is no responsibility.  Children learn by observing.  They learn what they live.  They emulate what they see.  If parents do not model personal responsibility in their actions, words and deeds, then what are they teaching their children?  But try telling these parents that and you get chewed a new one.

As I have stated in previous posts, I don’t have anyone to blame but myself.  I walk the walk and talk the talk.  Since it is just me (I have no family and just a few true friends), I am responsible for everything that happens to me.  My life is trial and error.  I take full responsibility for my actions, thoughts, feelings and perceptions.  I am quite willing to admit it when I am wrong.  If I make a mistake, I will admit it and apologize.  Most often, people are stunned when I do so, I guess because it is not common to them.  (“Wow, RTL is actually admitting they were wrong.  What do I say now?”)  Confusion ensues. 

I am responsible for where I am and I am the only one who can get myself out.  And I work on it daily.  So many people get offended when others blame them for the situation they are in.  They become upset, hurt and lash out against others for even pointing out that it is their fault for being in that situation.  It is so much more convenient to blame others or other things for what drama is going on in our own lives.  And the therapists, psychologists, counselors, psychiatrists and others in that kind of profession are raking in the bucks.  As is big pharma, with all the prescriptions that are prescribed for mental illness.

My life has been difficult and trying for long stretches of time, but somehow I manage to get through it with no harm done.  I do it without one-on-one counseling.  Sometimes all it takes for me is reading a book and making to effort to do the exercises in it.  And I am fortunate to not have any MI, so one less challenge to deal with. 

Do I consider myself better than others?  No.  I am a humble person.  Am I in a different place than many are psychologically/mentally?  Yes.  Because I recognize where I am and consciously work on it.  I am a work in progress and always will be.  I actually make the effort to overcome instead of blaming others for my situation.  That’s the kind of being I am, and nothing will change that.  People can talk smack about me or try to bring me down, but should really save it for someone who needs to hear it. There are billions of beings to be petty with in society.  I am not one of them.  Thank you.  smile



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There is nothing wrong with one on one counseling. Especially if it helps a person take responsibility for their part of the issue. Sometimes a book just doesn't cut it.

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I remember standing in front of a judge waiting for my sentence and he asked me why I had done what I did.

I answered because I had made the wrong choices.

He commuted my sentence to 2 years probation. I was facing 5 years in prison.

He said it was because I had not tried to blame anyone else.

It's easy to blame others. And we make it easy with all the campaigns calling everything an act of bullying.

And blaming police for doing their jobs.

Parents who won't listen to teachers.

Not teaching kids responsibility from an early age.

All of it leads to what we have now.

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Thank you for sharing, RTL.  I always enjoy your posts.

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Honeys_Mom wrote:

Thank you for sharing, RTL.  I always enjoy your posts.

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 So do I!

Everyone makes mistakes. What makes people roll their eyes is yet another excuse or finger pointing, what makes people respect some is taking the blame and fixing it!  Those of us who still own up to our mistakes make it to the top of the heap now a days because that is the attitude that employers need.  My son complained one day about the lack of work ethic his colleagues had, I told him, yep its frustrating but you stand out because you are better than them at the ethic .  My point is, hold on to the taking responsibility thing and you shine above all those that don't.



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IMHO, we now have a society full of victims.

I blame society as a whole for that concept running rampant.

I would love to b-slap a lot of parents out there.

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If you are 18 and you life is a mess, then yeah, maybe you can blame your parents. If you are 40 and your life is a mess, that is on you.

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People do it because it works. Look at politicians. One of the great lessons of the Clinton Administration that I have gleaned is to never, ever apologize. Always proceed as if you were absolutely right and when in doubt, act like YOU are the offended party. Seems to work every time.

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Entitlement is well present in our society and lives.  Parents hover over their child’s every move.  They do everything for their children.  Their child is the best and can do no wrong.  (“Who, my _____?.  Little _____ is never like that.  S/he is a good kid”).  There is no responsibility.  Children learn by observing.  They learn what they live.  They emulate what they see.  If parents do not model personal responsibility in their actions, words and deeds, then what are they teaching their children?  But try telling these parents that and you get chewed a new one.

As I have stated in previous posts, I don’t have anyone to blame but myself.  I walk the walk and talk the talk.  Since it is just me (I have no family and just a few true friends), I am responsible for everything that happens to me.  My life is trial and error.  I take full responsibility for my actions, thoughts, feelings and perceptions.  I am quite willing to admit it when I am wrong.  If I make a mistake, I will admit it and apologize.  Most often, people are stunned when I do so, I guess because it is not common to them.  (“Wow, RTL is actually admitting they were wrong.  What do I say now?”)  Confusion ensues. 

I am responsible for where I am and I am the only one who can get myself out.  And I work on it daily.  So many people get offended when others blame them for the situation they are in.  They become upset, hurt and lash out against others for even pointing out that it is their fault for being in that situation.  It is so much more convenient to blame others or other things for what drama is going on in our own lives.  And the therapists, psychologists, counselors, psychiatrists and others in that kind of profession are raking in the bucks.  As is big pharma, with all the prescriptions that are prescribed for mental illness.

My life has been difficult and trying for long stretches of time, but somehow I manage to get through it with no harm done.  I do it without one-on-one counseling.  Sometimes all it takes for me is reading a book and making to effort to do the exercises in it.  And I am fortunate to not have any MI, so one less challenge to deal with. 

Do I consider myself better than others?  No.  I am a humble person.  Am I in a different place than many are psychologically/mentally?  Yes.  Because I recognize where I am and consciously work on it.  I am a work in progress and always will be.  I actually make the effort to overcome instead of blaming others for my situation.  That’s the kind of being I am, and nothing will change that.  People can talk smack about me or try to bring me down, but should really save it for someone who needs to hear it. There are billions of beings to be petty with in society.  I am not one of them.  Thank you.  smile


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"Personal Responsibility" went out the window about the same time as "Participation Trophies" flew in. Maybe there's only so much space in this building with the windows that things fly in and out of?

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