TOTALLY GEEKED!

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Could you vs should you?

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I don't think the TSA agents do anything wrong, but I don't think they are doing anything right either. They miss WAY too much. Whenever DH and his teams travel as a group, they don't even check their liquids. They bring way more than is allowed. And all those studies that came out showing how many dangerous items they allowed people to carry onto a plane?! Terrifying. There are always a few of them standing around doing nothing and talking. I am sure they are good decent people. But they happen to suck at their jobs. That isn't always their fault though.

About the OP, the boy was allowed to film so I don't have a problem with that. I have more of a problem with the agent getting so upset about the boy doing something that he was allowed to do that he potentially could have missed something else happening. I also don't like when people in authority don't know the rules. Like police who speed (they are not allowed to go faster than the speed limit, even with lights and sirens on). I think if you take a job like that you need to know the rules.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Kid was just being a jerk. It isn't like the agent was doing anything wrong or was being a jerk.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Well, here's the thing. If he wasn't video taping and the guy did something wrong, he'd probably miss it. By video-taping the agent and making it known, he pretty much was trying to assure nothing went wrong. The agent shouldn't have just shrugged it off and gone about his job since videoing him was within the rules.

huskerbb · Guru

I think your husband is right and TSA agents are mostly useless tools.

huskerbb · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
I don't think the TSA agents do anything wrong, but I don't think they are doing anything right either. They miss WAY too much. Whenever DH and his teams travel as a group, they don't even check their liquids. They bring way more than is allowed. And all those studies that came out showing how many dangerous items they allowed people to carry onto a plane?! Terrifying. There are always a few of them standing around doing nothing and talking. I am sure they are good decent people. But they happen to suck at their jobs. That isn't always their fault though.

About the OP, the boy was allowed to film so I don't have a problem with that. I have more of a problem with the agent getting so upset about the boy doing something that he was allowed to do that he potentially could have missed something else happening. I also don't like when people in authority don't know the rules. Like police who speed (they are not allowed to go faster than the speed limit, even with lights and sirens on). I think if you take a job like that you need to know the rules.

Untrue. If they do NOT have lights and sirens on they aren't supposed to exceed the speed limit.

What the law says is that if they are going to exceed the speed limit, then they must have their lights and sirens on.

ETA: Actually, I did a little more research, and it's up to the officer whether or not to break traffic laws in order to get to the scene faster--whether the lights and siren are on, or not. The standard is that they are allowed to go as fast as they "safely" can--but it's up to individual discretion how fast that is.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 24th of July 2015 10:41:23 PM

chef · Guru

I have to wonder if the father told the kid to videotape the encounter in case the agent did something wrong.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

chef wrote:
I have to wonder if the father told the kid to videotape the encounter in case the agent did something wrong.

The father acted so nonchalant. He didn't say anything other than, "Hey man, that's my son." That was the only thing he said. He didn't tell his son to stop. He didn't defend his son's right to video either. He was just so passive about it all. That part really stuck out for me.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

huskerbb wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
I don't think the TSA agents do anything wrong, but I don't think they are doing anything right either. They miss WAY too much. Whenever DH and his teams travel as a group, they don't even check their liquids. They bring way more than is allowed. And all those studies that came out showing how many dangerous items they allowed people to carry onto a plane?! Terrifying. There are always a few of them standing around doing nothing and talking. I am sure they are good decent people. But they happen to suck at their jobs. That isn't always their fault though.

About the OP, the boy was allowed to film so I don't have a problem with that. I have more of a problem with the agent getting so upset about the boy doing something that he was allowed to do that he potentially could have missed something else happening. I also don't like when people in authority don't know the rules. Like police who speed (they are not allowed to go faster than the speed limit, even with lights and sirens on). I think if you take a job like that you need to know the rules.
Untrue. If they do NOT have lights and sirens on they aren't supposed to exceed the speed limit.

What the law says is that if they are going to exceed the speed limit, then they must have their lights and sirens on.

ETA: Actually, I did a little more research, and it's up to the officer whether or not to break traffic laws in order to get to the scene faster--whether the lights and siren are on, or not. The standard is that they are allowed to go as fast as they "safely" can--but it's up to individual discretion how fast that is.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 24th of July 2015 10:41:23 PM

In our state it is against the law no matter what. My best friend's father was killed by a police officer who was going 90, hot and killed him and the officer was charged and eventually found guilty of manslaughter specifically because the police cannot speed no matter what.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Oh, the officer had his lights and siren on but was not in pursuit, nor was he en route to a call. He just wanted to go faster.

Tangerine · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
I think your husband is right and TSA agents are mostly useless tools.

I agree with both of them. TSA is nothing but a power play by the government and seems to be incapable of refraining from hiring thieves and drug smugglers, not to mention all the unnecessary groping and harassment.

FNW · Guru

The kid was a jerk. TSA should have shrugged it off. Or posed. Or did something funny for the video, like make a duck face or whatever.

TSA agents, and law enforcement in general, have a difficult job. Because of jerks like that kid and anyone else who gives them a hard time just to give them a hard time.

When I worked for DOJ, TSA gave me an inside tour of Dulles airport. It was very interesting, to say the least.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

FNW wrote:
The kid was a jerk. TSA should have shrugged it off. Or posed. Or did something funny for the video, like make a duck face or whatever.

TSA agents, and law enforcement in general, have a difficult job. Because of jerks like that kid and anyone else who gives them a hard time just to give them a hard time.

When I worked for DOJ, TSA gave me an inside tour of Dulles airport. It was very interesting, to say the least.

burns07 · Guru

expect tsa to conduct themselves professionally--if I'm going to consent to a search, they need to conduct the same professionally and with respect--as long as they treat me professionally I'll reciprocate--otherwise, we're going to have a problem

huskerbb · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
Oh, the officer had his lights and siren on but was not in pursuit, nor was he en route to a call. He just wanted to go faster.

Then that may have made the difference. I would like to see the statute that says they can't speed "no matter what". I highly doubt that is true.