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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

14 Yr Old Boys Lost at Sea

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

We've been following this since Saturday. It's so sad. Those boys are probably gone.

FNW · Guru

Very sad. Shame on those parents allowing them to go out unsupervised. I don't care how much fishing is in their blood, there is only so much a 14 year old can do, physically and emotionally.

huskerbb · Guru

They were where they were not supposed to be, so I'm not willing to blame it on lack of supervision. The parent trusted them to stay in the intercostal waters. It's not really different from a 16 year old taking the car somewhere they shouldn't. You can't hover forever. Sometimes trust gets misplaced.

A 19 ft. Boat is none too big for the open ocean.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

So sad. I'm not blaming the parents. It is a different way of life than we know.

huskerbb · Guru

Lexxy wrote:
So sad. I'm not blaming the parents. It is a different way of life than we know.

The parents set rules, the boys broke them. Anyone who thinks a teenager will never break curfew, try alcohol, drive too fast, sneak out, or break some other rule or rules is deluding themselves. Yes,the consequences here were tragic, but they could be for breaking other rules, as well--but would it truly be the fault of the parents if a child snuck out of the house and ended up meeting an online predator, or getting in a car accident with a bunch of teens?

FNW · Guru

I understand..but 14? I guess it's like Lexxy said. A different way of life than what I know.

huskerbb · Guru

FNW wrote:
I understand..but 14? I guess it's like Lexxy said. A different way of life than what I know.

Like I said, they broke the rules. They'd probably been out fishing in the intercoastal area a hundred times with no issues, but this time they headed to open water.

Its ts no different than a farmer in the Midwest allowing his 12 year old son take the tractor to town with a wagonload of grain. City people would be aghast, but it's common practice in grain areas. It's never a problem--until it is. You can't plan for or predict everything.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

huskerbb wrote:
FNW wrote:
I understand..but 14? I guess it's like Lexxy said. A different way of life than what I know.
Like I said, they broke the rules. They'd probably been out fishing in the intercoastal area a hundred times with no issues, but this time they headed to open water.

Its ts no different than a farmer in the Midwest allowing his 12 year old son take the tractor to town with a wagonload of grain. City people would be aghast, but it's common practice in grain areas. It's never a problem--until it is. You can't plan for or predict everything.

This is actually the scenario I was thinking. My cousins in KS operate machinery before they are old enough to get a drivers license. Kids who grow up on the Chesapeake Bay are on the water crabbing when they are much younger than these boys. I don't personally know any Bayou people but I'd bet their kids are out on the swamps pretty early.

Ohfour · Hooker

deleted....old story...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Wednesday 29th of July 2015 11:59:04 AM

huskerbb · Guru

Shoot. I was hoping for good news.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I saw this on FB I think.

So sad.

I don't blame the parents either. This kind of thing can happen to anyone. And how many times have these two gone out fishing before?

Poor kids. Hope they find them.

burns07 · Guru

probably gone--no one is going to survive in the open ocean for too long--they might be rescued alive but seriously doubt it

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I heard the boys told friends they were going to try and sail to the Bahamas. Clearly they were not responsible enough to be alone on the water if that is true. And yes, it's a different way of life, etc. But these boys didn't sound like they were capable of handling the responsibility their parents were giving them.

NAOW · Vette's SS

They look so young, younger than 14. It's so sad.

huskerbb · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
I heard the boys told friends they were going to try and sail to the Bahamas. Clearly they were not responsible enough to be alone on the water if that is true. And yes, it's a different way of life, etc. But these boys didn't sound like they were capable of handling the responsibility their parents were giving them.

But how would any parent know that if there had never been an issue before?

sure, no one ever misses curfew, either--until they do.

Sin City Girl · Member

Is the story I just read fake? They found them.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Sin City Girl wrote:
Is the story I just read fake? They found them.

Do you have a link? I can't find anything about that.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Everything I have read says they are still missing, so not sure what you are referring too.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well, 14 is not 16. There is a big difference in maturity from a 14 yr old to an older teen. So, should they have been out there alone? I dont' know. On one hand, they grew up on the water. So, it is second nature to them. No different from growing up on a farm or whatever. But, they didn't grow up as professional fisherman farming the sea either. They are from quite well to do families, so they this is more recreation than a way of life. So, I really don't know that I would have let my 14 yrs olds go it alone.

Ohfour · Hooker

I posted (then deleted) a story that they found them, but it was from 2005. Same situation. They found the 2005 boys a week later, so there is a sliver of hope...

Ohfour · Hooker

The 2005 story was trending on Facebook...when I looked closer, I saw the date. A lot of people thought it was the same boys...

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Well, 14 is not 16. There is a big difference in maturity from a 14 yr old to an older teen. So, should they have been out there alone? I dont' know. On one hand, they grew up on the water. So, it is second nature to them. No different from growing up on a farm or whatever. But, they didn't grow up as professional fisherman farming the sea either. They are from quite well to do families, so they this is more recreation than a way of life. So, I really don't know that I would have let my 14 yrs olds go it alone.

They weren't supposed to be "going it alone" on the open sea. They were supposed to be in the calmer, intercoastal waters. Waters that they had undoubtedly been alone on 100 times.

This is NOT about the particular activity. This is about the fact that two teenagers disobeyed their parents and put themselves in a dangerous situation--something that LOTS of teenagers do.

There is ZERO difference in practicality between this and, say, missing curfew.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Wednesday 29th of July 2015 06:56:21 PM

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I wouldn't let 14 years olds out on the ocean alone - not even intercoastal. Just wouldn't.

Those boys are either gone at this point, or someone saw them alone and kidnapped them. Child trafficing is huge and the open water would be an easy taking.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
I wouldn't let 14 years olds out on the ocean alone - not even intercoastal. Just wouldn't.

Those boys are either gone at this point, or someone saw them alone and kidnapped them. Child trafficing is huge and the open water would be an easy taking.

You might not. It doesn't mean they were wrong for doing so.

You probably wouldn't let a 12 year old drive a tractor, either, or a 7 year old shoot trap--but people do it, and that is their right.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Well, 14 is not 16. There is a big difference in maturity from a 14 yr old to an older teen. So, should they have been out there alone? I dont' know. On one hand, they grew up on the water. So, it is second nature to them. No different from growing up on a farm or whatever. But, they didn't grow up as professional fisherman farming the sea either. They are from quite well to do families, so they this is more recreation than a way of life. So, I really don't know that I would have let my 14 yrs olds go it alone.
They weren't supposed to be "going it alone" on the open sea. They were supposed to be in the calmer, intercoastal waters. Waters that they had undoubtedly been alone on 100 times.

This is NOT about the particular activity. This is about the fact that two teenagers disobeyed their parents and put themselves in a dangerous situation--something that LOTS of teenagers do.

There is ZERO difference in practicality between this and, say, missing curfew.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Wednesday 29th of July 2015 06:56:21 PM

There is a difference. There is a difference of exposing your children to risks. You don't drop them off along the interstate in the middle of the night and say Find Your Way Home. Yeah, maybe most of the time they will. You don't put your kids in situations that might require mature adult thinking. As I said, this was not a family of fishermen but of rich people boating for recreation. I think there is a big difference between those two things. But, I didn't grow up along the ocean and if I did, then I might find that to be the Norm. I don't know. That was their decision and unfortunately, it has most likely not ended well. But, then again, a lot of kids are going to die from obesity sitting in front of their Xboxes never having really lived as well.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Well, 14 is not 16. There is a big difference in maturity from a 14 yr old to an older teen. So, should they have been out there alone? I dont' know. On one hand, they grew up on the water. So, it is second nature to them. No different from growing up on a farm or whatever. But, they didn't grow up as professional fisherman farming the sea either. They are from quite well to do families, so they this is more recreation than a way of life. So, I really don't know that I would have let my 14 yrs olds go it alone.
They weren't supposed to be "going it alone" on the open sea. They were supposed to be in the calmer, intercoastal waters. Waters that they had undoubtedly been alone on 100 times.

This is NOT about the particular activity. This is about the fact that two teenagers disobeyed their parents and put themselves in a dangerous situation--something that LOTS of teenagers do.

There is ZERO difference in practicality between this and, say, missing curfew.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Wednesday 29th of July 2015 06:56:21 PM
There is a difference. There is a difference of exposing your children to risks. You don't drop them off along the interstate in the middle of the night and say Find Your Way Home. Yeah, maybe most of the time they will. You don't put your kids in situations that might require mature adult thinking. As I said, this was not a family of fishermen but of rich people boating for recreation. I think there is a big difference between those two things. But, I didn't grow up along the ocean and if I did, then I might find that to be the Norm. I don't know. That was their decision and unfortunately, it has most likely not ended well. But, then again, a lot of kids are going to die from obesity sitting in front of their Xboxes never having really lived as well.

YOU see a difference. They didn't.

They disobeyed their parents with tragic results. How is that different than a teenager who would violate a curfew to meet someone she met online who turns out to be a predator?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
I wouldn't let 14 years olds out on the ocean alone - not even intercoastal. Just wouldn't.

Those boys are either gone at this point, or someone saw them alone and kidnapped them. Child trafficing is huge and the open water would be an easy taking.
You might not. It doesn't mean they were wrong for doing so.

You probably wouldn't let a 12 year old drive a tractor, either, or a 7 year old shoot trap--but people do it, and that is their right.

I would have no trouble with either of those two things - but water is not the same thing. I grew up respecting the water - a storm can come at any time, and even the most experienced boaters can have a hard time. And that was on Lake Michigan. The flippin ocean? No way.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Well, 14 is not 16. There is a big difference in maturity from a 14 yr old to an older teen. So, should they have been out there alone? I dont' know. On one hand, they grew up on the water. So, it is second nature to them. No different from growing up on a farm or whatever. But, they didn't grow up as professional fisherman farming the sea either. They are from quite well to do families, so they this is more recreation than a way of life. So, I really don't know that I would have let my 14 yrs olds go it alone.
They weren't supposed to be "going it alone" on the open sea. They were supposed to be in the calmer, intercoastal waters. Waters that they had undoubtedly been alone on 100 times.

This is NOT about the particular activity. This is about the fact that two teenagers disobeyed their parents and put themselves in a dangerous situation--something that LOTS of teenagers do.

There is ZERO difference in practicality between this and, say, missing curfew.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Wednesday 29th of July 2015 06:56:21 PM
There is a difference. There is a difference of exposing your children to risks. You don't drop them off along the interstate in the middle of the night and say Find Your Way Home. Yeah, maybe most of the time they will. You don't put your kids in situations that might require mature adult thinking. As I said, this was not a family of fishermen but of rich people boating for recreation. I think there is a big difference between those two things. But, I didn't grow up along the ocean and if I did, then I might find that to be the Norm. I don't know. That was their decision and unfortunately, it has most likely not ended well. But, then again, a lot of kids are going to die from obesity sitting in front of their Xboxes never having really lived as well.
YOU see a difference. They didn't.
They disobeyed their parents with tragic results. How is that different than a teenager who would violate a curfew to meet someone she met online who turns out to be a predator?

You don't even KNOW that they disobeyed their parents. Nobody knows what happened yet.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Well, 14 is not 16. There is a big difference in maturity from a 14 yr old to an older teen. So, should they have been out there alone? I dont' know. On one hand, they grew up on the water. So, it is second nature to them. No different from growing up on a farm or whatever. But, they didn't grow up as professional fisherman farming the sea either. They are from quite well to do families, so they this is more recreation than a way of life. So, I really don't know that I would have let my 14 yrs olds go it alone.
They weren't supposed to be "going it alone" on the open sea. They were supposed to be in the calmer, intercoastal waters. Waters that they had undoubtedly been alone on 100 times.

This is NOT about the particular activity. This is about the fact that two teenagers disobeyed their parents and put themselves in a dangerous situation--something that LOTS of teenagers do.

There is ZERO difference in practicality between this and, say, missing curfew.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Wednesday 29th of July 2015 06:56:21 PM
There is a difference. There is a difference of exposing your children to risks. You don't drop them off along the interstate in the middle of the night and say Find Your Way Home. Yeah, maybe most of the time they will. You don't put your kids in situations that might require mature adult thinking. As I said, this was not a family of fishermen but of rich people boating for recreation. I think there is a big difference between those two things. But, I didn't grow up along the ocean and if I did, then I might find that to be the Norm. I don't know. That was their decision and unfortunately, it has most likely not ended well. But, then again, a lot of kids are going to die from obesity sitting in front of their Xboxes never having really lived as well.
YOU see a difference. They didn't.
They disobeyed their parents with tragic results. How is that different than a teenager who would violate a curfew to meet someone she met online who turns out to be a predator?
You don't even KNOW that they disobeyed their parents. Nobody knows what happened yet.

It's fairly clear they probably did. They were told to stay in the intercoastal waters, and they had been talking about going to the Bahamas--and their boat was found in the open ocean.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
I wouldn't let 14 years olds out on the ocean alone - not even intercoastal. Just wouldn't.

Those boys are either gone at this point, or someone saw them alone and kidnapped them. Child trafficing is huge and the open water would be an easy taking.
You might not. It doesn't mean they were wrong for doing so.

You probably wouldn't let a 12 year old drive a tractor, either, or a 7 year old shoot trap--but people do it, and that is their right.
I would have no trouble with either of those two things - but water is not the same thing. I grew up respecting the water - a storm can come at any time, and even the most experienced boaters can have a hard time. And that was on Lake Michigan. The flippin ocean? No way.

I have not seen any information that there was a storm--but be that as it may, that is probably why the parents wanted them to stay in the intercoastal waters.

Also, just because you see water as a special case--does not make it so.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Experience is something you have immediately after you need it.

huskerbb · Guru

Also, we don't know that as far as what did happen at sea would not have happened if they were 40 and not 14. Not sure what difference that really makes.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Experience is something you have immediately after you need it.

Exactly. I almost drowned when I was 12 in a boating incident - and the boat was docked, even as an excellent swimmer and with a boating license. A storm came suddenly and the waves started and were washing over the dock - I fell between the boat and the dock and the waves pushed the boat back to the dock and I couldn't get back up between them. I was stuck under the boat and dock in the dark water and I started panicking. Water is not to be trifled with.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Well, 14 is not 16. There is a big difference in maturity from a 14 yr old to an older teen. So, should they have been out there alone? I dont' know. On one hand, they grew up on the water. So, it is second nature to them. No different from growing up on a farm or whatever. But, they didn't grow up as professional fisherman farming the sea either. They are from quite well to do families, so they this is more recreation than a way of life. So, I really don't know that I would have let my 14 yrs olds go it alone.
They weren't supposed to be "going it alone" on the open sea. They were supposed to be in the calmer, intercoastal waters. Waters that they had undoubtedly been alone on 100 times.

This is NOT about the particular activity. This is about the fact that two teenagers disobeyed their parents and put themselves in a dangerous situation--something that LOTS of teenagers do.

There is ZERO difference in practicality between this and, say, missing curfew.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Wednesday 29th of July 2015 06:56:21 PM
There is a difference. There is a difference of exposing your children to risks. You don't drop them off along the interstate in the middle of the night and say Find Your Way Home. Yeah, maybe most of the time they will. You don't put your kids in situations that might require mature adult thinking. As I said, this was not a family of fishermen but of rich people boating for recreation. I think there is a big difference between those two things. But, I didn't grow up along the ocean and if I did, then I might find that to be the Norm. I don't know. That was their decision and unfortunately, it has most likely not ended well. But, then again, a lot of kids are going to die from obesity sitting in front of their Xboxes never having really lived as well.
YOU see a difference. They didn't.
They disobeyed their parents with tragic results. How is that different than a teenager who would violate a curfew to meet someone she met online who turns out to be a predator?
You don't even KNOW that they disobeyed their parents. Nobody knows what happened yet.
It's fairly clear they probably did. They were told to stay in the intercoastal waters, and they had been talking about going to the Bahamas--and their boat was found in the open ocean.

NO, it's not clear. They could have run into some unsavory characters who boarded the boat and abandoned it or any of number things. You don't KNOW.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Also, we don't know that as far as what did happen at sea would not have happened if they were 40 and not 14. Not sure what difference that really makes.

Then why protect children at all? Yes ,you can lose your life as an adult doing things but we usually expect parents to guard the immaturity of their kids. And, thinking, let's just take a jaunt in our boat alone shows that they really were not ready to be trusted with adult things ,if that is what happened.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Also, we don't know that as far as what did happen at sea would not have happened if they were 40 and not 14. Not sure what difference that really makes.
Then why protect children at all? Yes ,you can lose your life as an adult doing things but we usually expect parents to guard the immaturity of their kids. And, thinking, let's just take a jaunt in our boat alone shows that they really were not ready to be trusted with adult things ,if that is what happened.

But at some point we DO let them do things--whether it's handle a gun, drive a car, or boat.

Just because YOU think they were too young does not make it so. In some states, kids can drive at that age, and FAR more people die in car accidents than by boating.

They had been taking "jaunts" in the boat MANY times by all accounts.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Well, 14 is not 16. There is a big difference in maturity from a 14 yr old to an older teen. So, should they have been out there alone? I dont' know. On one hand, they grew up on the water. So, it is second nature to them. No different from growing up on a farm or whatever. But, they didn't grow up as professional fisherman farming the sea either. They are from quite well to do families, so they this is more recreation than a way of life. So, I really don't know that I would have let my 14 yrs olds go it alone.
They weren't supposed to be "going it alone" on the open sea. They were supposed to be in the calmer, intercoastal waters. Waters that they had undoubtedly been alone on 100 times.

This is NOT about the particular activity. This is about the fact that two teenagers disobeyed their parents and put themselves in a dangerous situation--something that LOTS of teenagers do.

There is ZERO difference in practicality between this and, say, missing curfew.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Wednesday 29th of July 2015 06:56:21 PM
There is a difference. There is a difference of exposing your children to risks. You don't drop them off along the interstate in the middle of the night and say Find Your Way Home. Yeah, maybe most of the time they will. You don't put your kids in situations that might require mature adult thinking. As I said, this was not a family of fishermen but of rich people boating for recreation. I think there is a big difference between those two things. But, I didn't grow up along the ocean and if I did, then I might find that to be the Norm. I don't know. That was their decision and unfortunately, it has most likely not ended well. But, then again, a lot of kids are going to die from obesity sitting in front of their Xboxes never having really lived as well.
YOU see a difference. They didn't.
They disobeyed their parents with tragic results. How is that different than a teenager who would violate a curfew to meet someone she met online who turns out to be a predator?
You don't even KNOW that they disobeyed their parents. Nobody knows what happened yet.
It's fairly clear they probably did. They were told to stay in the intercoastal waters, and they had been talking about going to the Bahamas--and their boat was found in the open ocean.
NO, it's not clear. They could have run into some unsavory characters who boarded the boat and abandoned it or any of number things. You don't KNOW.

Neither do you--but the evidence points more towards my theory.

If they ran into "unsavory" characters--the it's really irrelevant that they were on a boat (and it's also HIGHLY UNLIKELY the boat would have capsized were that the case). You can run into "unsavory characters" on your way to school or doing pretty much any normal activity. That absurd theory is NOT a point in your favor.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Thursday 30th of July 2015 06:55:48 PM

huskerbb · Guru

Heck, I'm willing to bet I can find FAR more instances of teenagers being killed or kidnapped in home invasions while their parents are at home--than those being killed or kidnapped while boating, with our without parents.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

So, what? That would be because most people are not irresponsible enough to let young teens out on a boat on the ocean by themselves.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
So, what? That would be because most people are not irresponsible enough to let young teens out on a boat on the ocean by themselves.

See, that's your problem. Just because YOU wouldn't do something--you characterize it as "irresponsible"--even though your opinion on it is really irrelevant.

We let 14 years olds do lots of things--even drive in some states--and a lot more kids are killed by driving than by boating.

Plus, the point is that if they fell upon bad people--the FACT is that they are probably MORE likely to find those people at home, so the fact that they were on the boat is IRRELEVANT to that situation.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I admit there have been a couple times when I allowed my kids to do something only to realize how bad it could have gone after.

We don't always realize all the dangers until it's too late.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
So, what? That would be because most people are not irresponsible enough to let young teens out on a boat on the ocean by themselves.
See, that's your problem. Just because YOU wouldn't do something--you characterize it as "irresponsible"--even though your opinion on it is really irrelevant.

We let 14 years olds do lots of things--even drive in some states--and a lot more kids are killed by driving than by boating.

Plus, the point is that if they fell upon bad people--the FACT is that they are probably MORE likely to find those people at home, so the fact that they were on the boat is IRRELEVANT to that situation.

Well, now, let's look at the facts. Parents let 14 year old boys out on boat alone. Boys disappear, probably drowned, maybe abducted. Yep - bad decision.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Don't confuse Husker with the facts lol.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
So, what? That would be because most people are not irresponsible enough to let young teens out on a boat on the ocean by themselves.
See, that's your problem. Just because YOU wouldn't do something--you characterize it as "irresponsible"--even though your opinion on it is really irrelevant.

We let 14 years olds do lots of things--even drive in some states--and a lot more kids are killed by driving than by boating.

Plus, the point is that if they fell upon bad people--the FACT is that they are probably MORE likely to find those people at home, so the fact that they were on the boat is IRRELEVANT to that situation.
Well, now, let's look at the facts. Parents let 14 year old boys out on boat alone. Boys disappear, probably drowned, maybe abducted. Yep - bad decision.

So every parent who lets their 16 year old drive and something bad happens made a bad decision? Every parent who trusted a day care and something bad happened made a bad decision? Every kid who falls off a trampoline made a bad decision?

That is a completely absurd argument. Just because something bad ends up happening is NOT the test of wherher or not it should have been done. If that is your absurd criteria, then you'd have to keep your kids in a bubble.

Heck, your kids are more likely to get hurt when they are riding in the car with YOU than in any boating accident by themselves. Using your absurd illogic, then any parent who pulls out of the driveway with their kids in the car is potentially making a bad decision based on what might later happen.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I do not agree. The water is not the same as the highway. But, I wouldn't let my 14 year old drive on the roads, either.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
I do not agree. The water is not the same as the highway. But, I wouldn't let my 14 year old drive on the roads, either.

You are right. Highways are FAR more dangerous.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yes, they are. But, I think we all accept that driving is a necessity of life. Our kids will be driving and needing to drive to be able to hold a job. So, yeah, they are given an opportunity to drive. But, that doesn't necessarily mean you hand your kid the keys at 16 and say, here you go , take a tour of across the US.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

It really doesn't matter though does it? They are most likely dead so I am sure they wish that they had done something differently. But, they can't beat themselves up either. You have to let kids explore and make their own mistakes. Unfortunately, sometimes that has tragic consequences.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Yes, they are. But, I think we all accept that driving is a necessity of life. Our kids will be driving and needing to drive to be able to hold a job. So, yeah, they are given an opportunity to drive. But, that doesn't necessarily mean you hand your kid the keys at 16 and say, here you go , take a tour of across the US.

And that isn't what they said here, either.

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