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Where would you carry the gun? Do you have a conceal carry permit? Would you be able to get the gun out quickly if attacked? A lot of people are getting tasers now. Only problem with them is you have to make direct contact.

I mean all these Rails to Trails are a fine idea, but for women , there are very real concerns about using those trails.

Some weapons are useful only if the attacker is surprised. AND you have to ACTUALLY USE THEM.

If a man was running toward you from 15 feet away, would you actually be able to shoot him? You have 1/2 second to act. Can you do something that will kill him?

 

If you miss, he will take your weapon away from you, and use it on you.

If it's pepper spray,

*you're more likely to USE IT because it won't kill, but should disable him temporarily

*you're more likely to stop him with it, because you can spray and sweep it across his face, and it will work. No real need to aim carefully.

*if he takes it from you, he can't kill you with it.

 

Unless you're carrying a .357 Magnum, a pistol won't stop a charging bear. Bear spray will. A small pepper spray canister might work.

 

What ever you choose, keep in mind that you only get one shot.

 

Have you considered getting a German Shepard, or maybe a wolf?

 

I carry pepper spray. Mine straps around my hand. Preparation time to fire is 1/2 second.

I used to carry pepper spray when I walked for exercise, JIC I was mugged. I stayed off trails for fear of mountain lions and rattlesnakes. I'm just not a real outdoorsy type. But when I hiked in Alaska, our guide had bear spray with him. And we did come across a couple of grizzly cubs. Fortunately he didn't need to use it, but when they started to come towards us, I had wished he had more than a canister to protect us.

well, if you're looking for protection, a handgun will stop and potentially kill any sort of threat you may encounter--pepper spray is used mainly as a deterrent--since you're responsible for your daughter's safety as well, would definitely go with a handgun PROVIDED you spend the time to learn how to use it safely / properly--would recommend a course from a licensed range / instructor--as far as the weapon itself, would check with a range in your area and ask if they will allow you to test-fire weapons before you buy them

revolver or automatic would say is a personal choice--there are advantages / drawbacks to both--bear in mind that for personal defense ( similar to hunting dangerous game, including men ) you want the most powerful weapon you can shoot ACCURATELY--learn to shoot center mass and spend some time training yourself

Find a self defense group that teaches how to use what you have at hand.
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this is actually good advice--for dangerous wildlife though, you're generally going to need a weapon ( especially for apex predators such as black bear / grizz )

I did look at bear spray and actually it is a weaker version of the pepper spray because technically you aren't "allowed" to use regular pepper spray on wild life. So, if you are going to get one or the other, might as well get the full dose of pepper spray.

Bear Spray vs Pepper Spray: What’s the Difference?




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1 Bear Spray vs Pepper Spray: What’s the Difference?1.1 Pepper Spray: An effective self defense against humans
1.2 Bear Spray: An effective deterrent in bear country
1.3 Using Bear Spray
1.4 Can I use bear mace on humans as self defense?
1.5 Last Words: Bear spray vs Pepper Spray
1.6 Related Posts via Categories


Bear Spray vs Pepper Spray: What’s the Difference?

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Pepper Spray: An effective self defense against humans

Pepper spray is chemical, non-lethal, self defense weapons available for civilian use. The active ingredient in pepper spray is oleoresin capsicum — the same chemical in chili peppers that gives them their sting and irritating effects. When pepper spray is sprayed on the eyes and skin it causes:
•Intense burning pain
•Excessive tearing
•Swelling of the eyelids
•Temporary blindness
•Difficulty breathing

These effects often last longer than 20 minutes, making pepper spray an extremely effective self defense weapon. It is so effective that, pepper spray is used by almost all police and some military units to subdue and incapacitate threats.

Bear Spray: An effective deterrent in bear country

Bear spray is similar to pepper spray but is not the same thing. Though they both contain the same active ingredient — oleoresin capsicum, bear spray contains a much lower concentration.

A typical pepper spray used for self defense will have an oleoresin capsicum (OC) concentration of about 10% or higher. A typical bear spray has a oleoresin concentration of about 1 – 2 %.

The goal of using bear spray is to scare off an attacking bear, not cause it to become incapacitated and incur serious pain. That’s why bear spray only requires a small amount of active chemical — just enough to irritate the bear and cause it to back off.

Studies have shown that bear spray is a very effective at reducing the number of bear attack in national parks.

Using Bear Spray

Remember that using bear spray is only meant to be used when you encounter an aggressive bear that is charging towards you. Do not use it to spray any of your camping gear or clothes, as the scent will actually serve to attract the bears — not good!

Some tips regarding bear spray use
•Try and keep as much distance between you and the bear, while backing up slowly
•Keep your eyes on the bear at all times
•Spray the bear as soon as it comes within range of your bear repellent spray (typically 20 feet)
•Aim for the eyes and the nose of the bear
•Spray for as long as it takes for the bear to turn around, this can take up to 6 seconds

Remember that bear spray should only be used as a last resort. You should always remain vigilant of your surroundings. Making excessive noise in while walking around in bear country will help avoid surprising any bears and thus reduce the risk of an attack.

Remember to carry your bear spray with you at all times when in bear country. Make sure that it is easily accessible, like in a holster by your side. Lastly, practice using your bear spray — get comfotable with it. When you encounter a charging bear, you won’t have much time to fumble around firing your bear spray.

Can I use bear mace on humans as self defense?




I wouldn’t recommend it.

Although using bear repellent spray on a human will definitely have some burning and irritating effects, it simply does not pack the same punch as a proper pepper spray made for self defense.

Now, there are stories in the news of sales clerks successfully fending off store robberies with a can of bear repellent spray. However this is probably just due to the fact that the bear spray served to surprise and scare off the thieves, not actually incapacitate them. A more determined or aggressive threat would be able to easily fight through the bear spray effects.

Bear spray is typically more expensive than pepper spray, and harder to carry with you at all times because of its size. Pepper spray is small, easy to use, and much stronger.

Your choice is clear: If you are serious about your self defense, buy a proper pepper spray. Leave the bear spray for the bears!

If you want to learn more about different pepper sprays for self defense, check out this informative review article.

Last Words: Bear spray vs Pepper Spray

Although pepper spray and bear spray contain the same active chemical, they are not the same thing. Bear spray has a much lower concentration of oleoresin capsicum, and should only be used as a bear deterrent.

Pepper spray is a self defense weapon intended to incapacitate human threats, and it is very effective at doing this due to its higher concentration of oleoresin capsicum. If you are serious about self defense, go purchase some pepper spray. If you are a hiker or camper in bear country, buy some bear spray.

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-- Edited by Lady Gaga Snerd on Wednesday 29th of July 2015 05:22:02 PM

Bear whistle? I have NEVER heard a bear whistle.

Spray. You will much more confident using it and won't harm any one or thing long term.

Ok, I ordered the pepper spray.  Should be here next week.

Oh I posted a pic and it didn't show.

You could probably get pepper spray from a sporting goods store.

Oh. Well. In that case...

I found a nice .38 special. And, am going to get my concealed weapons permit. Why be unprotected with all the crazies in the world?

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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I found a nice .38 special. And, am going to get my concealed weapons permit. Why be unprotected with all the crazies in the world?

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 Cool.  I want a handgun, but I want one that Obama doesn't know about.

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I could probably hook you up... 

I found a nice .38 special. And, am going to get my concealed weapons permit. Why be unprotected with all the crazies in the world?
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that's plenty of gun up close--the main thing is that you're comfortable using it and you're confident of your ability to hit what you're shooting

OK, I really like the one with the wooden handle but it doesn't have a laser. The other 2 do but one has the hammer and the other doesn't. The hammer adds extra weight and bulk.

Yeah, I am not crazy about the hammer. And, the laser, not sure I need that either. I would have to sight it in. And, really, the only time I would plan to use it is for self defense and some recreational target shooting. But, I probably wouldn't do a lot of that either, just enough to feel comfortable with it. So, you are right, probably don't need that.

For self defense, I would choose one without the hammer visible. If the bad guy gets close enough to grab it, he would grab it so his hand is blocking the hammer, so you couldn't fire it.

If he grabs the hammerless one, you can still fire it. Immediately, please.