TOTALLY GEEKED!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

RE: Dr. who shot Cecil the Lion getting death threats and closes his practice

huskerbb · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
African Authorities are asking to extradite him back to Africa.

If he did, in fact, do something illegal according to THEIR laws, then they have that right, and maybe he should be.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
African Authorities are asking to extradite him back to Africa.
If he did, in fact, do something illegal according to THEIR laws, then they have that right, and maybe he should be.

I have to wonder if they are prosecuting the "guides".

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
African Authorities are asking to extradite him back to Africa.
If he did, in fact, do something illegal according to THEIR laws, then they have that right, and maybe he should be.
I have to wonder if they are prosecuting the "guides".

The article says they are at least one of them.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Well, if it was an illegal hunt and they purposely lured that lion off the preserve, then I think he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Well, if it was an illegal hunt and they purposely lured that lion off the preserve, then I think he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

I agree--although it depends on if he knew.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

It all depends on if he knew. My one big concern is that he already has one illegal hunt under his belt. I have nothing against big game hunting. I know several people including my brother who do it. If it is done legally it is not easy. Tracking them for days, sleeping in tents, all kinds of possible perils & no guarantee of a kill. Bating a semi domesticated animal out of a sanctuary is not how it is done.

huskerbb · Guru

Lexxy wrote:
It all depends on if he knew. My one big concern is that he already has one illegal hunt under his belt. I have nothing against big game hunting. I know several people including my brother who do it. If it is done legally it is not easy. Tracking them for days, sleeping in tents, all kinds of possible perils & no guarantee of a kill. Bating a semi domesticated animal out of a sanctuary is not how it is done.

That I completely agree with. If he knew, there should absolutely be accountability.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

There is "knowing" and then there is purposefully choosing not to know.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Lawyerlady wrote:
There is "knowing" and then there is purposefully choosing not to know.

Yeah I'm sort of leaning towards this. Some hunters want the guarantee that they will come back with a trophy & take shortcuts.

huskerbb · Guru

But under one theory he could probably be found guilty--the other one, probably not.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

huskerbb wrote:
But under one theory he could probably be found guilty--the other one, probably not.

Exactly. Maybe his guides will prove he knew or should have known. Hopefully with global outrage at him & the fear of African jail he will never do it again.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
But under one theory he could probably be found guilty--the other one, probably not.

Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law. These types of things they are supposed to make sure. If he says "I thought the permits were in order", then the question is - did you look at them?

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
But under one theory he could probably be found guilty--the other one, probably not.
Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law. These types of things they are supposed to make sure. If he says "I thought the permits were in order", then the question is - did you look at them?

But I think the bigger issue is luring the lion off the reservation.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
But under one theory he could probably be found guilty--the other one, probably not.
Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law. These types of things they are supposed to make sure. If he says "I thought the permits were in order", then the question is - did you look at them?
But I think the bigger issue is luring the lion off the reservation.

Well, I find it very hard to believe he didn't know about that.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
But under one theory he could probably be found guilty--the other one, probably not.
Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law. These types of things they are supposed to make sure. If he says "I thought the permits were in order", then the question is - did you look at them?
But I think the bigger issue is luring the lion off the reservation.
Well, I find it very hard to believe he didn't know about that.

Me too.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
But under one theory he could probably be found guilty--the other one, probably not.
Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law. These types of things they are supposed to make sure. If he says "I thought the permits were in order", then the question is - did you look at them?
But I think the bigger issue is luring the lion off the reservation.
Well, I find it very hard to believe he didn't know about that.

Maybe he did--but the rush to judgement has already convicted him.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
But under one theory he could probably be found guilty--the other one, probably not.
Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law. These types of things they are supposed to make sure. If he says "I thought the permits were in order", then the question is - did you look at them?
But I think the bigger issue is luring the lion off the reservation.
Well, I find it very hard to believe he didn't know about that.
Maybe he did--but the rush to judgement has already convicted him.

Yes. I actually don't think he'll get a fair trial over this.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Guilty unless proven innocent!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I am over it. It's a lion. I don't freaking care.

WYSIWYG · Guru

Are you going to replace the millions of dollars that it brings into local economies that are among the poorest in the world?

What about the millions of dollars that hunters spend every year on wildlife conservation?
- huskerbb

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Am I personally going to replace it? No. How about they pay for a vacation resort instead of a lion hunt instead. Same money infusion into the area.

If they are hunting for trophies, they aren't conserving. The millions (if there even are millions) that they spend are not for conservation so much as they are a balm to themselves because they know what they are doing is wrong. That and a smokescreen so people see the millions and either don't see or will hopefully ignore the trophy hunts.

WYSIWYG · Guru

So, if you don't like something, then it should automatically just be outlawed?
- Lady Gaga Snerd

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It shouldn't be outlawed because I don't like it. It should be outlawed because it's senseless.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Does Lion taste good with A1 sauce and green beans?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Or butter and garlic maybe?

huskerbb · Guru

WYSIWYG wrote:
Are you going to replace the millions of dollars that it brings into local economies that are among the poorest in the world?

What about the millions of dollars that hunters spend every year on wildlife conservation?
- huskerbb

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Am I personally going to replace it? No. How about they pay for a vacation resort instead of a lion hunt instead. Same money infusion into the area.

If they are hunting for trophies, they aren't conserving. The millions (if there even are millions) that they spend are not for conservation so much as they are a balm to themselves because they know what they are doing is wrong. That and a smokescreen so people see the millions and either don't see or will hopefully ignore the trophy hunts.

You are wrong--and just shows your hypocrisy. You don't give a damn dime to conservation--yet pretend to care about it.

huskerbb · Guru

WYSIWYG wrote:
So, if you don't like something, then it should automatically just be outlawed?
- Lady Gaga Snerd

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It shouldn't be outlawed because I don't like it. It should be outlawed because it's senseless.

Why do you get to decide what is "senseless" or not? Who woke up and made you fvcking god?