TOTALLY GEEKED!

huskerbb wrote:

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I'm torn on this one.

It's not in the same class of disease as, say, measles or pertussis which are much more easily communicable.

At the same time, many parents are stunningly naive. They say things like, well, I don't have to worry about it for my daughter because she would "never" have premarital sex--and then she does.

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 You have NO idea!!! The things some of these kids have told me......

In any case, you don't even need to have penetrative sex to catch the virus. Skin on skin contact, esp with mucous membranes, is enough.

weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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I'm torn on this one.

It's not in the same class of disease as, say, measles or pertussis which are much more easily communicable.

At the same time, many parents are stunningly naive. They say things like, well, I don't have to worry about it for my daughter because she would "never" have premarital sex--and then she does.

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 You have NO idea!!! The things some of these kids have told me......

In any case, you don't even need to have penetrative sex to catch the virus. Skin on skin contact, esp with mucous membranes, is enough.

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That's not why I chose not to.  In 2008 there was only 10 years of study.  That's not enough for me to give it to my child.  That's a drop... 

huskerbb wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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I'm torn on this one.

It's not in the same class of disease as, say, measles or pertussis which are much more easily communicable.

At the same time, many parents are stunningly naive. They say things like, well, I don't have to worry about it for my daughter because she would "never" have premarital sex--and then she does.

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 You have NO idea!!! The things some of these kids have told me......

In any case, you don't even need to have penetrative sex to catch the virus. Skin on skin contact, esp with mucous membranes, is enough.

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That's not why I chose not to.  In 2008 there was only 10 years of study.  That's not enough for me to give it to my child.  That's a drop... 

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 would you have said the same thing about the polio vaccine when it first came out?

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Polio was not curable.  This is.  It usually cures itself.  I also decided against most antibiotics. The body heals very well on it's own... 

Ohfour wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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I'm torn on this one.

It's not in the same class of disease as, say, measles or pertussis which are much more easily communicable.

At the same time, many parents are stunningly naive. They say things like, well, I don't have to worry about it for my daughter because she would "never" have premarital sex--and then she does.

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 You have NO idea!!! The things some of these kids have told me......

In any case, you don't even need to have penetrative sex to catch the virus. Skin on skin contact, esp with mucous membranes, is enough.

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That's not why I chose not to.  In 2008 there was only 10 years of study.  That's not enough for me to give it to my child.  That's a drop... 

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 would you have said the same thing about the polio vaccine when it first came out?

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Polio was not curable.  This is.  It usually cures itself.  I also decided against most antibiotics. The body heals very well on it's own... 

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 Butbthat should make no difference as far as how long it was studied. 10 years is either long enough or its not.

Not true. If there was an epidemic that was quickly killing millions of people and there was a possibility that it could be stopped, then yes. I would have taken that risk. This disease cures itself most of the time (much like Chicken Pox, they didn't get that vaccine either). This disease MAY cause cervical cancer. Most times it does not. Polio was life threatening to most people that contracted it...

Lawyerlady wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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I'm torn on this one.

It's not in the same class of disease as, say, measles or pertussis which are much more easily communicable.

At the same time, many parents are stunningly naive. They say things like, well, I don't have to worry about it for my daughter because she would "never" have premarital sex--and then she does.

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 You have NO idea!!! The things some of these kids have told me......

In any case, you don't even need to have penetrative sex to catch the virus. Skin on skin contact, esp with mucous membranes, is enough.

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That's not why I chose not to.  In 2008 there was only 10 years of study.  That's not enough for me to give it to my child.  That's a drop... 

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 would you have said the same thing about the polio vaccine when it first came out?

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Polio was not curable.  This is.  It usually cures itself.  I also decided against most antibiotics. The body heals very well on it's own... 

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 Butbthat should make no difference as far as how long it was studied. 10 years is either long enough or its not.

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 You are ignoring the pro/cons - risks/benefits ratio.

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You said it much more succinctly than I... 

'Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Polio was not curable.  This is.  It usually cures itself.  I also decided against most antibiotics. The body heals very well on it's own... 

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 I disagree with this statement.  There are SOME things that cure itself very well on it's own.  Other things can be deadly if not treated with a simple antibiotic.

What has happened is for so long we lived in a society where people died over little things that could be easily cured.  Then we found antibiotics.  And life was good for awhile.  Every time a mother worried she pumped antibiotics into her child.  So now we are seeing the opposite effect of that.  Overuse of antibiotics.  Antibiotics are very good and definitely have their place in medicine.  However, like any other drug they should be used at the right time and for the right reason.

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I didn;t decide against all antibiotics, just quite a few of them.  And in the HPV case, most of the time the body cures itself.... 

I take an antibiotic daily. It's a pain. Sometimes they lose their effectiveness.

Ohfour wrote:

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'Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Polio was not curable.  This is.  It usually cures itself.  I also decided against most antibiotics. The body heals very well on it's own... 

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 I disagree with this statement.  There are SOME things that cure itself very well on it's own.  Other things can be deadly if not treated with a simple antibiotic.

What has happened is for so long we lived in a society where people died over little things that could be easily cured.  Then we found antibiotics.  And life was good for awhile.  Every time a mother worried she pumped antibiotics into her child.  So now we are seeing the opposite effect of that.  Overuse of antibiotics.  Antibiotics are very good and definitely have their place in medicine.  However, like any other drug they should be used at the right time and for the right reason.

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I didn;t decide against all antibiotics, just quite a few of them.  And in the HPV case, most of the time the body cures itself.... 

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or it progresses into cancer and kills. 

 

Domestic Engineer wrote:

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Unfortunately, I received a phone call today informing me that my latest pap was positive for cervical cancer. 😓. I'm still processing.

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 What?  Like, full blown cancer or the pre-cancerous cells?  Holy cow.  I'm so sorry.  {{{{hugs}}}}

I got a call like that too.

Turned out it was wrong.

I know you are freaked right now, try to remember a lot of those tests come back positive the first time and then are nothing after further testing.

I will keep you in my prayers.

Domestic Engineer wrote:

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The nurse wouldn't give me details. All that she would say was that the pap was positive for cervical cancer.  I have an appointment with the dr Friday morning.

-- Edited by Domestic Engineer on Monday 3rd of August 2015 09:24:03 PM

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 I won't say it's nothing because it could be something.  I will say removing mine was a fairly simple procedure.  A little painful and there was some bleeding but I survived just fine!  Actually, this has happened twice.  Both times it was simple to remove it.  I come from a family with a history of this.  My mom and my sister both have had the procedure too.

Check your PMs.

Domestic Engineer wrote:

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Unfortunately, I received a phone call today informing me that my latest pap was positive for cervical cancer. 😓. I'm still processing.

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I'm really sorry to hear that. I hope it's just pre-cancerous lesions and that you'll be fine.

 

However, since this is the HPV thread, it behooves me to say that 70% of cervical cancers are caused by HPV strains 16 and 18. HPV may "clear up by itself", but it DOES stay dormant in the body.

Good luck, DE.

 

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Monday 3rd of August 2015 10:22:11 PM