TOTALLY GEEKED!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

RE: Debate Night!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I do agree that Trump slamming Kelly is just idiotic. He can't be ornery and say what he wants and then complain if Megan calls him out.

msrock · Guru

Lexxy wrote:
FNW wrote:
With all the money Trump donated to the Clintons, I have to wonder if he's not intentionally trying to divide the party, run independent which is really a win for the Dems, in order to help get Hillary in office.
I hope you are wrong. Reading this sent a shiver down my spine.

I'm pretty sure she's wrong.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I support anyone running who wants to run. And, if you want to try your hand at a 3rd party run, then go for it. The notion that "you can't win" is only true until somebody actually does. Why not him?

FNW · Guru

Historically it hasn't happened, has it? As much as I like Trump, and I do, I have a bad feeling about this. I have to take a step back and look at the big picture here.

Hillary attended Trump's wedding after he made a donation. He has given over $100K in donations to Clinton Foundation. Trump donated $5,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and $20,000 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in the 2006 cycle.

Just $1,000 of Trump’s money in the 2006 cycle went to the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

Trump defended this back in 2010 by pretty much saying he wasn't going to back a loser (the Republicans). He last contributed to Schumer in 2010. He only started contributing solely to the Republican party in 2012. Why?

Call me suspicious, but it just doesn't smell right to me.

huskerbb · Guru

msrock wrote:
The only people that really didn't do anything for me were Jeb Bush, Walker and Rand. I thought everyone else was pretty solid and on point. Huckabee and Kasich moved up in my eyes. Trump was Trump and for the 1st hour, I loved him. Me and my SO were literally side-splitting laughing when he spoke... in a good way. He got soft towards the end, and his closing comments were meh. All in all, I thought it was a great debate!

I agree on trumps closing comments. He could have hit his talking points hard--immigration, jobs, defense--but he didn't.

FNW · Guru

And as much as I do NOT want another Bush running, because I don't think the country is ready for that, I do agree when Jeb said the party needs to pull together. Trump seems to be dividing the party. Divide and conquer has been the Republican downfall in recent history.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I will ONLY vote for someone who has earned my vote. Sorry, but my allegiance is to America and not the GOP. If you have to beg someone else not to run so you can win, then you don't deserve to win anything. Run and win on your own merit. You will not get my vote unless you have earned it. If Hillary wins, then so be it. Run better candidates. Maybe if people stopped holding their nose to vote for best of the worst then the lazy GOP would support better candidates. The GOP seems far more intent to take down conservatives than they are in taking down Obama or the Dems.

FNW · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I will ONLY vote for someone who has earned my vote. Sorry, but my allegiance is to America and not the GOP. If you have to beg someone else not to run so you can win, then you don't deserve to win anything. Run and win on your own merit. You will not get my vote unless you have earned it. If Hillary wins, then so be it. Run better candidates. Maybe if people stopped holding their nose to vote for best of the worst then the lazy GOP would support better candidates. The GOP seems far more intent to take down conservatives than they are in taking down Obama or the Dems.

That's what I mean. They are dividing themselves. This is the GOP's downfall.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yes, but that isn't the fault of conservatives trying to run. That is the fault of the establishment Repos like Graham, McCain and their ILK.

FNW · Guru

It IS the fault of the conservative(s) trying to run who are blatantly unwilling to back the candidate WE chose.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

FNW wrote:
It IS the fault of the conservative(s) trying to run who are blatantly unwilling to back the candidate WE chose.

Why? I am not going to promise to back anybody? That is patently absurd. To expect someone to say "Oh yeah, I will support WHOMEVER the party nominates" is bull crap. No and HELL no.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

However, the stupid question about Donald's "proof" that Mexico is sending criminals. How about the pile of dead bodies of Americans stacking up that are killed daily by illegals.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

How can you promise to support when you dont' know who the Nominee is? That is one of the Dumbest questions EVER.

FNW · Guru

I like Trump, and I agree on his immigration issues. If he had said that whether he would back the nominee depends on who is was, fine.

My instincts say things are not what they appear here, that's all.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Do you think he is in cohoots with the Clintons?

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

FNW wrote:
I like Trump, and I agree on his immigration issues. If he had said that whether he would back the nominee depends on who is was, fine.

My instincts say things are not what they appear here, that's all.

I'd have to say I agree with you FNW. Trump doesn't care about this country. He cares about furthering himself. He made several statements last night that bothered me. He said when he gives people money they are now at his bidding. That is not something that bodes well for the future. Who will he buy off while he is in office. He also talked about going bankrupt and how he managed to screw the bankers over. He said as long as it was legal, why not. Sorry, don't see him as a man of character but more of a man who wants to stir things up. I say your instincts are right.

FNW · Guru

I don't know if he's in cohoots with the Clintons, but it would not surprise me. The facts lead me to believe he might be. It's an angle few are seeing. Trump is a smart man. He's intentionally stirring the pot, IMO. And yeah, the bankruptcy bit bothered me, too, long before the debate.

As far as indebtedness, he has made that comment before, but in the context that he did not want to take money from anyone because he doesn't want to be indebted to them. He does not strike me as the kind who will hand out money without wanting something in return, or at the very least, to have an angle. It his angle here that bothers me. Why is he cozy with the Clintons?

Honeys_Mom · Mod & Permanent Board Sweetheart

Does any other non-Democrat on the board have an issue with the fact that currently (don't know about today's polls, maybe they've changed) Trump is leading the Republican pack? Has anyone thought forward to what this would bring about in the actual election? Though the man obviously has excellent business sense, Trump wouldn't have a chance in hell of being elected as POTUS... hello, can anyone say Hillary? cry

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Honeys_Mom wrote:
Does any other non-Democrat on the board have an issue with the fact that currently (don't know about today's polls, maybe they've changed) Trump is leading the Republican pack? Has anyone thought forward to what this would bring about in the actual election? Though the man obviously has excellent business sense, Trump wouldn't have a chance in hell of being elected as POTUS... hello, can anyone say Hillary?

I do! I've said it before and I got told that Trump is so wonderful and so refreshing and so bold and so EVERYTHING. Yes, I have a huge problem with him leading the pack. He has an ego to match the size of Texas. I'm afraid if he was POTUS we'd have wars all over because he'd be insulting everyone.

FNW · Guru

That, too, NJN. While I like his strength and no-nonsense style, I don't know how that will bode in foreign relations.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

FNW wrote:
I don't know if he's in cohoots with the Clintons, but it would not surprise me. The facts lead me to believe he might be. It's an angle few are seeing. Trump is a smart man. He's intentionally stirring the pot, IMO. And yeah, the bankruptcy bit bothered me, too, long before the debate.

As far as indebtedness, he has made that comment before, but in the context that he did not want to take money from anyone because he doesn't want to be indebted to them. He does not strike me as the kind who will hand out money without wanting something in return, or at the very least, to have an angle. It his angle here that bothers me. Why is he cozy with the Clintons?

He has enough money that he could pay her to go away. OR, he could pay her to run as VP in a third party. Or he could go Dem at the last minute and pay her off to be VP.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

FNW wrote:
That, too, NJN. While I like his strength and no-nonsense style, I don't know how that will bode in foreign relations.

Part of being a president is being a DIPLOMAT. That is not his strong suit by any means.

TrudyML · Guru

I am enjoying his pot stirring and comments. The rest of the GOP is frozen. The dems have their heads in the sand. Refreshing!

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
FNW wrote:
That, too, NJN. While I like his strength and no-nonsense style, I don't know how that will bode in foreign relations.
Part of being a president is being a DIPLOMAT. That is not his strong suit by any means.

I'm tired of "diplomats". Diplomats are how Iran is closer than ever to nuclear weapons. Diplomats are why Putin is emboldened. Diplomats gave rise to ISIS.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
FNW wrote:
That, too, NJN. While I like his strength and no-nonsense style, I don't know how that will bode in foreign relations.
Part of being a president is being a DIPLOMAT. That is not his strong suit by any means.
I'm tired of "diplomats". Diplomats are how Iran is closer than ever to nuclear weapons. Diplomats are why Putin is emboldened. Diplomats gave rise to ISIS.

Then enjoy your next Democratic POTUS. The Pubs aren't going to run him. He'll either run third party or hook up with Hillary.

TrudyML · Guru

People gather to him with his no BS attitude.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
FNW wrote:
That, too, NJN. While I like his strength and no-nonsense style, I don't know how that will bode in foreign relations.
Part of being a president is being a DIPLOMAT. That is not his strong suit by any means.
I'm tired of "diplomats". Diplomats are how Iran is closer than ever to nuclear weapons. Diplomats are why Putin is emboldened. Diplomats gave rise to ISIS.
Then enjoy your next Democratic POTUS. The Pubs aren't going to run him. He'll either run third party or hook up with Hillary.

They didn't run a winnable candidate last time, what makes you think one of those other talking head politicians will fare any better?

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

huskerbb wrote:

They didn't run a winnable candidate last time, what makes you think one of those other talking head politicians will fare any better?

I personally feel some of them are better than others. But you love Trump so it really doesn't matter what my opinion is to you. You believe you are right no matter what. The RNC is not going to use Trump as their candidate. He will go third party or buy Hilliary and win. He's not in this for this country. He is in this for the show. To spout off his BS and make the whole thing a circus. So far he's succeeded. I predict that will not last.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Honeys_Mom wrote:
Does any other non-Democrat on the board have an issue with the fact that currently (don't know about today's polls, maybe they've changed) Trump is leading the Republican pack? Has anyone thought forward to what this would bring about in the actual election? Though the man obviously has excellent business sense, Trump wouldn't have a chance in hell of being elected as POTUS... hello, can anyone say Hillary?

And after reading this thread you will understand why I don't say anything openly about Trump. It's like saying you support abortion or gay marriage.

msrock · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
huskerbb wrote:

They didn't run a winnable candidate last time, what makes you think one of those other talking head politicians will fare any better?
I personally feel some of them are better than others. But you love Trump so it really doesn't matter what my opinion is to you. You believe you are right no matter what. The RNC is not going to use Trump as their candidate. He will go third party or buy Hilliary and win. He's not in this for this country. He is in this for the show. To spout off his BS and make the whole thing a circus. So far he's succeeded. I predict that will not last.

Yes he is.

Ohfour · Hooker

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
huskerbb wrote:

They didn't run a winnable candidate last time, what makes you think one of those other talking head politicians will fare any better?
I personally feel some of them are better than others. But you love Trump so it really doesn't matter what my opinion is to you. You believe you are right no matter what. The RNC is not going to use Trump as their candidate. He will go third party or buy Hilliary and win. He's not in this for this country. He is in this for the show. To spout off his BS and make the whole thing a circus. So far he's succeeded. I predict that will not last.

They will if he wins the primaries...

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
huskerbb wrote:

They didn't run a winnable candidate last time, what makes you think one of those other talking head politicians will fare any better?
I personally feel some of them are better than others. But you love Trump so it really doesn't matter what my opinion is to you. You believe you are right no matter what. The RNC is not going to use Trump as their candidate. He will go third party or buy Hilliary and win. He's not in this for this country. He is in this for the show. To spout off his BS and make the whole thing a circus. So far he's succeeded. I predict that will not last.

???? I ws the one who said he did not do well in the debate. What thread are you reading?

FNW · Guru

The Donald gives me pause, that's all. Just someone to watch. I'm not drinking his kool-aid, yet.