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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

How Do You Feel About Drones?

ed11563 · Guru

Did the pilot recover the fishing pole? Is the fisherman asking for its' return? Will the fisherman be charged with malicious mischief?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Why should the fisherman be charged? Why are people allowed to fly drones over people? Drones can be armed and remotely controlled to shoot. Why should we the public have to put up with this?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

ed11563 · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Why should the fisherman be charged? Why are people allowed to fly drones over people? Drones can be armed and remotely controlled to shoot. Why should we the public have to put up with this?

The fisherman used his fishing gear to attack someone else's personal property. The pilot didn't break any laws.

Pilots fly helicopters over people all the time. These are just smaller and lighter.

Should we put up with ARMED drones? Would we put up with armed people walking around in public with a loaded pistol in their had, ready to fire?

No, we don't. Not even law enforcement officers unless they have a good reason.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Drones are just the newest annoying toy. I think they are intrusive too. Sure pilots fly helicopters over head, but drones can get much closer. Fly it on my property and you better believe I will try to take it down.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Drones should be treated like those rc planes. Owner should be required to carry liability insurance in the event they injure someone.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

If u fly a drone over me , I would shoot it down too.

ed11563 · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
If u fly a drone over me , I would shoot it down too.

If it's flying over a public beach or pier (like this one was) would you still feel justified in shooting it down?

Would you shoot down a fixed-wing r/c plane flying over the pier or beach?

If the fisherman HAD pulled the drone out of the sky, and due to his interference it landed on and injured someone,

who would be liable?

If you shoot one down over your yard, and it then hits your house, causing damage or a FIRE, who would be responsible for that?

ed11563 · Guru

If someone fires a shotgun at a drone flying over their yard,

does the shooter know where the pellets will come down?

How would someone determine the "field of fire" for a shotgun fired into the air in a residential neighborhood?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

ed11563 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
If u fly a drone over me , I would shoot it down too.
If it's flying over a public beach or pier (like this one was) would you still feel justified in shooting it down?
Would you shoot down a fixed-wing r/c plane flying over the pier or beach?
If the fisherman HAD pulled the drone out of the sky, and due to his interference it landed on and injured someone,
who would be liable?

If you shoot one down over your yard, and it then hits your house, causing damage or a FIRE, who would be responsible for that?

Have people attached surveillance cameras and guns to rc planes?

Ilumine · Regular

Dependong on the drone, it was chasing the fish away. Thus the fishermens anger.

And if they spent all that money (to get on the pier and bait), the drone owner owes them for the loss. Because there is a huge difference between the fish just not biting ad the fish not biting because they were chased away by some ass.

ed11563 · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
If u fly a drone over me , I would shoot it down too.
If it's flying over a public beach or pier (like this one was) would you still feel justified in shooting it down?
Would you shoot down a fixed-wing r/c plane flying over the pier or beach?
If the fisherman HAD pulled the drone out of the sky, and due to his interference it landed on and injured someone,
who would be liable?

If you shoot one down over your yard, and it then hits your house, causing damage or a FIRE, who would be responsible for that?

Have people attached surveillance cameras and guns to rc planes?

You mean, other than the military?

Guns? It seems that no one who's doing it is dumb enough to post it on You Tube.

I'm sure some people have done this, but i'm also sure it would be difficult to aim.

Cameras? Absolutely. A camera on a r/c plane or drone would be a great tool for a farmer to get a quick, inexpensive look over her/his farm.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

What is the difference in drones and the camera at the end of every arm out there?

You have no idea who is taking what picture when.

And then there is Big Brother. On every corner, street light, and then there's the camera from businesses pointing every direction.

Drones are just one more camera to the millions already out there.

ed11563 · Guru

A stranger (older man in a Suburban) asked me about my dash cam in the Costco parking lot this week ...

That doesn't happen very often.

Ilumine · Regular

I am not against drones per se. Heck, DH has crowdfunded a Lily (though the only reason why I agreed was because it only rotated around the individual and could not be used to video tape others).

But in THIS situation, THIS drone was a bother. It bothered the fish. It could have ruined a perfectly good caste and a very expensive rod&reel. My husband has fishing poles that run in the hundreds. And since the fisherman WAS able to caste and catch the drone - IT WAS TOO ****ING CLOSE and could have snagged someone's expensive pole.

Would the drone owner have been as concerned about private property THEN? Would he have paid back the fisherman for his pole? Would he have even come forward? Probably not.

Nope.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well, yeah, there are cameras everywhere. But so what? That doesn't mean we have to accept this too does it? Just because people want to shove stuff up your arse doesn't mean you have to allow them to cram more up there.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And it wasn't that long ago you were saying the opposite. That its every where any way.

ed11563 · Guru

Ilumine wrote:
I am not against drones per se. Heck, DH has crowdfunded a Lily (though the only reason why I agreed was because it only rotated around the individual and could not be used to video tape others).

But in THIS situation, THIS drone was a bother. It bothered the fish. It could have ruined a perfectly good caste and a very expensive rod&reel. My husband has fishing poles that run in the hundreds. And since the fisherman WAS able to caste and catch the drone - IT WAS TOO ****ING CLOSE and could have snagged someone's expensive pole.
Would the drone owner have been as concerned about private property THEN? Would he have paid back the fisherman for his pole? Would he have even come forward? Probably not.
Nope.

It looked like the drone was at least 100 feet above, and no one casts their line that high, almost straight up, unless they are trying to snag a flying fish (no, they fly only a few feet above the surface) or a remote controlled helicopter. Which is what this guy did.

It looked to me like the drone flew away with his line and rod, instead of crashing.

I don't believe that the sound of the drone at that height would "chase the fish away", when the noises of people walking on the pier would already be carried directly into the water from the pilings, and NOT driving the fish away.

So, he used his toy to attack someone else's toy, and he lost his rod and reel. Good.

-- Edited by ed11563 on Sunday 9th of August 2015 03:00:38 PM

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Gold miners are using drones to take pictures of land they can't easily access. It gives them an idea of the possibility of more gold and if they can somehow make the trek up the mountain.

ed11563 · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Gold miners are using drones to take pictures of land they can't easily access. It gives them an idea of the possibility of more gold and if they can somehow make the trek up the mountain.

If a guy wants to buy an expensive toy, that's as good an excuse as any, isn't it?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I think I would enjoy shooting one down,lol.

Ilumine · Regular

ed11563 wrote:
Ilumine wrote:
I am not against drones per se. Heck, DH has crowdfunded a Lily (though the only reason why I agreed was because it only rotated around the individual and could not be used to video tape others).

But in THIS situation, THIS drone was a bother. It bothered the fish. It could have ruined a perfectly good caste and a very expensive rod&reel. My husband has fishing poles that run in the hundreds. And since the fisherman WAS able to caste and catch the drone - IT WAS TOO ****ING CLOSE and could have snagged someone's expensive pole.
Would the drone owner have been as concerned about private property THEN? Would he have paid back the fisherman for his pole? Would he have even come forward? Probably not.
Nope.
It looked like the drone was at least 100 feet above, and no one casts their line that high, almost straight up, unless they are trying to snag a flying fish (no, they fly only a few feet above the surface) or a remote controlled helicopter. Which is what this guy did.

It looked to me like the drone flew away with his line and rod, instead of crashing.
I don't believe that the sound of the drone at that height would "chase the fish away", when the noises of people walking on the pier would already be carried directly into the water from the pilings, and NOT driving the fish away.
So, he used his toy to attack someone else's toy, and he lost his rod and reel. Good.

-- Edited by ed11563 on Sunday 9th of August 2015 03:00:38 PM

if the drone was always / only that low, then how did the fishermen take notice or care to begin with? The video posted by the drone owner BEGINS WITH shots that far Up. Who is to say that the owner did not buzz closer and just not post those videos?

ed11563 · Guru

Ilumine wrote:

if the drone was always / only that low, then how did the fishermen take notice or care to begin with? The video posted by the drone owner BEGINS WITH shots that far Up. Who is to say that the owner did not buzz closer and just not post those videos?

In the video, the one fisherman, standing away from the edge of the pier, was the only one who reacted to the U.F.O.

No one else turned to watch it, until he started moving. So I think no one heard it, the one guy saw it moving and decided it was fair game.

ladyloonatic · Regular

I don't think the average person should have a drone. Some of you bring up valid points about farmers or ranchers, maybe. But there's so many ways they can be misused, be a general nuisance and be a safety hazard. Maybe they should be restricted to private property or specific use, and have clearly marked License numbers, so if there is misuse, there is a way of identifying the owner.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I don't see the difference in drones and any other RC vehicle.

Bonny22Pye · Guru

Drones are obnoxious just like google glass. The lack of privacy we as the public are willing to put up with is astonishing.

ladyloonatic · Regular

lilyofcourse wrote:
I don't see the difference in drones and any other RC vehicle.

Perhaps range. If it can interfere with a commercial jet, it's range is probably too far.

eta: especially if it's relying on GPS, I've ended up in some really odd places following GPS instructions, and it can't take into account obstacles.

-- Edited by ladyloonatic on Sunday 9th of August 2015 07:10:23 PM

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
I don't see the difference in drones and any other RC vehicle.

Really? YOu have seen weapons and cameras attached to RC cars?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I don't see the difference in drones and any other RC vehicle.

Really? YOu have seen weapons and cameras attached to RC cars?

Yes actually. The military uses them. Fire and rescue use them.

And as I said, those things can be attached to any RC vehicle. Helicopters, cars, boats. Anything.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And there are gasoline powered RC vehicles that have an amazing range.

cadiver · Senior Member

If you want to ban drones rather than RC vehicles you would first need to define them. The FAA proposal is to restrict recreation use, under 55 lbs including payload and flown by line of sight. It has nothing to do if they are equipped with cameras or guns if they are considered a drone. The other distinctions I saw online is if they were mission oriented or capable of autonomous flight. So Amazon delivering a a package would fall under a drone. Someone busing around flying line of sight with cameras would not be a drone.

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