TOTALLY GEEKED!

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Ohfour wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Look, if he wore pink and he was bullied about it, he'd stop. On the other hand, if he was gay, there would absolutely nothing I could do about it. You sound like one of those fathers on What Would You Do, who has the screaming heebie-jeebies because the son wants to wear pink nail polish.
It's not a hill I want to die on.
In any case, I raised a compassionate, kind young man who is in a stable relationship and has his own business, so I'm pretty sure I did something right.

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Yeah, he'd stop, but the damage would have been done.  Ever watched the show I Am Jazz?  She's an outcast and doesn't understand why boys don't want to go out with her.  Her parents are 100% responsible for her distress... 

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 Or I am Cait?  It's not always about being "gay".  Jenner as a man was attracted to women.  Still is.    It's a leap to think that just because a boy wants to wear dresses, that he's gay.  But I digress.....

And even if he "stopped", this would follow him throughout school, unless you moved and changed schools.  

If my son had insisted on being a princess, I probably would have suggested he wait a year, when he could fit into a better costume.  If he wanted to wear pink nail polish, he can wear it on weekends when he won't be seen by his peers.  Not because I'm ashamed, but to protect him from bullies and ridicule by his peers. 

Protecting my sons from bullying is a hill I would die on.

 

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 Your kid would fall for that? 

Look I have no problem with a boy wearing a pink boys shirt. I use to know a Hella sexy wrestler who looked absolutely mouthwatering in a pink button up shirt. Man, was he hot.

But that's not what the problem is.

The problem is kids having no guidance. No one teaching them how to be men and women.

-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Wednesday 12th of August 2015 02:40:49 PM

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weltschmerz wrote:

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FNW wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Look, if he wore pink and he was bullied about it, he'd stop. On the other hand, if he was gay, there would absolutely nothing I could do about it. You sound like one of those fathers on What Would You Do, who has the screaming heebie-jeebies because the son wants to wear pink nail polish.
It's not a hill I want to die on.
In any case, I raised a compassionate, kind young man who is in a stable relationship and has his own business, so I'm pretty sure I did something right.

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Yeah, he'd stop, but the damage would have been done.  Ever watched the show I Am Jazz?  She's an outcast and doesn't understand why boys don't want to go out with her.  Her parents are 100% responsible for her distress... 

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 Or I am Cait?  It's not always about being "gay".  Jenner as a man was attracted to women.  Still is.    It's a leap to think that just because a boy wants to wear dresses, that he's gay.  But I digress.....

And even if he "stopped", this would follow him throughout school, unless you moved and changed schools.  

If my son had insisted on being a princess, I probably would have suggested he wait a year, when he could fit into a better costume.  If he wanted to wear pink nail polish, he can wear it on weekends when he won't be seen by his peers.  Not because I'm ashamed, but to protect him from bullies and ridicule by his peers. 

Protecting my sons from bullying is a hill I would die on.

 

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 Your kid would fall for that? 

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 What choice would he have?  I'm the parent.  I decide.  And at 2, no, he probably wouldn't understand anything other than he wasn't getting what he wanted.  But we don't always get what we want, and it's never too soon to teach children this.

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 Amen to that.

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This is actually really funny. Bullies complaining abut bullies. Didn't one of you say you would run atheists out of town?

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 Excuse me?

weltschmerz wrote:

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This is actually really funny. Bullies complaining abut bullies. Didn't one of you say you would run atheists out of town?

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Really?  

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weltschmerz wrote:

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This is actually really funny. Bullies complaining abut bullies. Didn't one of you say you would run atheists out of town?

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 Pot, you're black.  Said the kettle

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 Seriously.  She joined this board with a damn chip on her shoulder and insults people here every chance she gets.  And if anyone disagrees with her world view - they are a bully.  The perpetual victim card is bullsh1t.

Lawyerlady wrote:

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FNW wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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This is actually really funny. Bullies complaining abut bullies. Didn't one of you say you would run atheists out of town?

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 Pot, you're black.  Said the kettle

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 Seriously.  She joined this board with a damn chip on her shoulder and insults people here every chance she gets.  And if anyone disagrees with her world view - they are a bully.  The perpetual victim card is bullsh1t.

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You don't consider running atheists out of town to be bullying? 

I have no idea what she is talking about either, or how it relates to this thread.

Lawyerlady wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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FNW wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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This is actually really funny. Bullies complaining abut bullies. Didn't one of you say you would run atheists out of town?

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 Pot, you're black.  Said the kettle

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 Seriously.  She joined this board with a damn chip on her shoulder and insults people here every chance she gets.  And if anyone disagrees with her world view - they are a bully.  The perpetual victim card is bullsh1t.

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You don't consider running atheists out of town to be bullying? 

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Nof that is on this thread and I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. 

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 It was on the County Clerks Quitting thread. It's not my fault if you missed it.

weltschmerz wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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FNW wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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This is actually really funny. Bullies complaining abut bullies. Didn't one of you say you would run atheists out of town?

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 Pot, you're black.  Said the kettle

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 Seriously.  She joined this board with a damn chip on her shoulder and insults people here every chance she gets.  And if anyone disagrees with her world view - they are a bully.  The perpetual victim card is bullsh1t.

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You don't consider running atheists out of town to be bullying? 

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Nof that is on this thread and I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. 

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 It was on the County Clerks Quitting thread. It's not my fault if you missed it.

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 And again - it has nothing to do with this thread.  If you have a complaint about some rule breaking that is not seen by a moderator - you need to report it.  If you don't, don't bring it up months or weeks later and expect a response. 

But there was no reason to bring it up here other than to justify insulting people.  News flash - NOT justified. 

 

And the "bully" crap is stupid, anyway.  You are an adult and this is a voluntary message board.  You are not required to participate and you have the ability to log off at any time.  Basically  - either put on your big girl panties and debate and argue like an adult or don't engage.  But just because you don't like the opinions of others or they don't agree with you does not make them bullies.

In fact, the LAST time the word atheist was written here was Dec 5 2014. The search feature can be such a powerful tool...

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Ohfour wrote:

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I went through every page of that thread (7 pages) and searched for the word "atheist". No where in that thread did that word appear...not even once.

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It was right there, in black and white. County clerks must be Christian if they know what's good for them. Otherwise, they'll be run out of town. In any case, we're not to discuss an old thread. 

So, getting back to the subject...If my son wanted to play with an EZ Bake oven or wear pink, I'd have no problem with it. YMMV.

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 That is not what I said.  And now I want you to find it.  The thread is here - go find this thing you have accused people of and prove it.  You don't get to do that for your own selfish purposes and then back off when challenged b/c it isn't true.

PERHAPS you are confusing this board with another one, and it is another board you should be insulting.

And now she runs off to the other board to tell everyone how mean we all are over here.

It has to be exhauting.

I still cannot locate that thread. And I have no idea what YMMV means.

At any rate, my boys HAD an oven. We received it from some friends whose son outgrew it. She asked if we wanted it and I figured why not. They never "cooked" on it. They used it to store their trains. But if they wanted to whip up a souffle, I would have pulled up my plate. Big difference between playing with gender neutral toys and dressing up like the opposite sex and going to school. Call me old school, but I still believe there are opposite sexes, and that children should learn the differences.

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I still cannot locate that thread. And I have no idea what YMMV means.

At any rate, my boys HAD an oven. We received it from some friends whose son outgrew it. She asked if we wanted it and I figured why not. They never "cooked" on it. They used it to store their trains. But if they wanted to whip up a souffle, I would have pulled up my plate. Big difference between playing with gender neutral toys and dressing up like the opposite sex and going to school. Call me old school, but I still believe there are opposite sexes, and that children should learn the differences.

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 It is not on this board.  We had similar threads - but not that one.

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I still cannot locate that thread. And I have no idea what YMMV means.

At any rate, my boys HAD an oven. We received it from some friends whose son outgrew it. She asked if we wanted it and I figured why not. They never "cooked" on it. They used it to store their trains. But if they wanted to whip up a souffle, I would have pulled up my plate. Big difference between playing with gender neutral toys and dressing up like the opposite sex and going to school. Call me old school, but I still believe there are opposite sexes, and that children should learn the differences.

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YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary. 

 

Lawyerlady wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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This is actually really funny. Bullies complaining abut bullies. Didn't one of you say you would run atheists out of town?

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 Pot, you're black.  Said the kettle

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 Seriously.  She joined this board with a damn chip on her shoulder and insults people here every chance she gets.  And if anyone disagrees with her world view - they are a bully.  The perpetual victim card is bullsh1t.

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 As a moderator I would think that this sort of comment directed at, but not to, a member is really improper.

This almost looks like a group of mean girls ganging up on one person when it is presented in this manner. 

It seems that if you disagree with certain members there is a gang like response. I know, it is not my business and I am not agreeing or disagreeing with either side, I just believe that this mentality is damaging to the entire board.

 

 

 

Apple, believe me when I say this is just the tip of the iceberg with Weltz here.

She consistently does this and then plays victim.

Lawyerlady wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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FNW wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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This is actually really funny. Bullies complaining abut bullies. Didn't one of you say you would run atheists out of town?

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 Pot, you're black.  Said the kettle

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 Seriously.  She joined this board with a damn chip on her shoulder and insults people here every chance she gets.  And if anyone disagrees with her world view - they are a bully.  The perpetual victim card is bullsh1t.

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 As a moderator I would think that this sort of comment directed at, but not to, a member is really improper.

This almost looks like a group of mean girls ganging up on one person when it is presented in this manner. 

It seems that if you disagree with certain members there is a gang like response. I know, it is not my business and I am not agreeing or disagreeing with either side, I just believe that this mentality is damaging to the entire board.

 

 

 

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I am also a member of this board who was being accused of things with absolutely no foundation.  Perhaps if someone does not want to be called out on the accusations and name-calling they are doing, they should not do it.  And the mean girls are not on this board - you, too, have us confused.  But since you seem to like to call members of this board names for no reason just as Welts does, I can see why you stick up for her. 

And FYI - the thread she is referencing is NOT on this board.  It has been located elsewhere.  So, I await her apology with baited breath.

And since you've been here, what?  Less than a week?  You can't really comment on the veracity of my statement. 

And it is not YOUR place as a member here to tell a MODERATOR what to do. 

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 I called members of this board names for no reason? No, I commented on moderating skills and the culture that they promote. I was not "telling" anyone what to do. It was a simple observation obviously unwelcome.

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Apple, believe me when I say this is just the tip of the iceberg with Weltz here.

She consistently does this and then plays victim.

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 Oh I know Weltz well and I have been moderating on message boards for several years now. Its an unpaid and often unappreciated job. :)

 

I just called it like I saw it, not taking sides. Being impartial is a difficult thing to do for some.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Apple, believe me when I say this is just the tip of the iceberg with Weltz here.

She consistently does this and then plays victim.

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 Oh I know Weltz well and I have been moderating on message boards for several years now. Its an unpaid and often unappreciated job. :)

 

I just called it like I saw it, not taking sides. Being impartial is a difficult thing to do for some.

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 Really?  This sounds impartial to you?

"This almost looks like a group of mean girls ganging up on one person when it is presented in this manner."

Doesn't anyone read the rules anymore? Good grief.

 

Also - if you "figure out" who someone is on another board - their user name there is private information as to this board.  You may not "out" someone who may be trying to get a fresh start by telling their old user name(s) here.  If they want people to know, they will tell them.  See above for the consequences of sharing private information.

-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Wednesday 12th of August 2015 03:58:23 PM

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Apple, believe me when I say this is just the tip of the iceberg with Weltz here.

She consistently does this and then plays victim.

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 Oh I know Weltz well and I have been moderating on message boards for several years now. Its an unpaid and often unappreciated job. :)

 

I just called it like I saw it, not taking sides. Being impartial is a difficult thing to do for some.

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 Really?  This sounds impartial to you?

"This almost looks like a group of mean girls ganging up on one person when it is presented in this manner."

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 Yes. I said what I saw and that is in fact what it looks like from where I sit, I just thought you should know. Its not a judgement in as much as an observation.

And yes I realize it is unwelcome but hey, sometimes it takes an outsider to point things out that you may not have noticed are happening.

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 Well, from where I sit, that is not what it sounded like.  It sounded like you were taking up for someone who was calling people bullies for no reason, accusing them of stuff that did not occur on this board, and calling the people that responded to such behavior mean girls.

Sometimes, when chastising people - you can come across as judgmental and as taking sides with the person who started it.  I realize you may not realize that is what you sound like, and it might be unwelcome to hear.