TOTALLY GEEKED!

10 minutes is a long time when you don't know where your child is.

I was in a craft show years ago in Michigan. I found a little boy alone, crying. My friends and I took him around until he found his mother. She was hysterical when we found her. I do not know how long they had been separated.

My mother, to this day, has nightmares about being separated from my father and us. I'm not sure my father ever thinks about it. Maybe it's a maternal thing, to panic when a mother is separated from her young.

Then maybe you just don't love your kids as much. I'm pretty sure you've used that argument on all of us when we didn't agree...

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Then maybe you just don't love your kids as much. I'm pretty sure you've used that argument on all of us when we didn't agree...

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LMAO!!!!! 

Who said don't look for them first?

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Who said don't look for them first?

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Only Husker, I think.  Obviously everyone is going to go looking. 

According to you or is there some sort of handbook?

Yes, it is the Husker Handbook of Living.

I'm accustomed to the fact that many on here are lacking in common sense and self-reliance.

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I'm accustomed to the fact that many on here are lacking in common sense and self-reliance.

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That's the thing Husker.  If someone doesn't operate their lives EXACTLY as you would in any given situation, then you immediately start with the insults.   

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I'm accustomed to the fact that many on here are lacking in common sense and self-reliance.

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That's the thing Husker.  If someone doesn't operate their lives EXACTLY as you would in any given situation, then you immediately start with the insults.   

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 Who started with the insults???  Saying I "don't love my kids" is hardly a compliment.  Simply disagreeing is not an insult.

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 Was it an insult when you said I must not love my parents because I wouldn't take their money away? See how that works.

 

However, I'm not saying I didn't post an insult--I'm saying I wasn't the only or the first.

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huskerbb wrote:

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I'm accustomed to the fact that many on here are lacking in common sense and self-reliance.

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That's the thing Husker.  If someone doesn't operate their lives EXACTLY as you would in any given situation, then you immediately start with the insults.   

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 Who started with the insults???  Saying I "don't love my kids" is hardly a compliment.  Simply disagreeing is not an insult.

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 Was it an insult when you said I must not love my parents because I wouldn't take their money away? See how that works.

 

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 I didn't say that.  I said letting criminals take all their money while doing absolutely nothing about it would mean you don't care.  You were the one that said that is what you would do.

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 No. You said I must not love my parents because I wouldn't take their money away if they were being scammed. I said I would tell them not to but it's up to them in the end. Twist it any way you want I said the same thing you did except you said it about my parents and I said it about your kids. I think if your kids go missing and you don't enlist all the help you can get then you must not love your kids. You're the one who said you wouldn't so...I guess that works both ways...lol

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 No, I said since you would not do anything to stop a criminal from taking all their money then you must not care.

 

i didn't say I would never call the authorities, I just said it was ridiculous to do so after only a few minutes.

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Tinydancer wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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I'm accustomed to the fact that many on here are lacking in common sense and self-reliance.

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That's the thing Husker.  If someone doesn't operate their lives EXACTLY as you would in any given situation, then you immediately start with the insults.   

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 Who started with the insults???  Saying I "don't love my kids" is hardly a compliment.  Simply disagreeing is not an insult.

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 Was it an insult when you said I must not love my parents because I wouldn't take their money away? See how that works.

 

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 I didn't say that.  I said letting criminals take all their money while doing absolutely nothing about it would mean you don't care.  You were the one that said that is what you would do.

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 No. You said I must not love my parents because I wouldn't take their money away if they were being scammed. I said I would tell them not to but it's up to them in the end. Twist it any way you want I said the same thing you did except you said it about my parents and I said it about your kids. I think if your kids go missing and you don't enlist all the help you can get then you must not love your kids. You're the one who said you wouldn't so...I guess that works both ways...lol

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 No, I said since you would not do anything to stop a criminal from taking all their money then you must not care.

 

i didn't say I would never call the authorities, I just said it was ridiculous to do so after only a few minutes.

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 I said I would tell my parents not to give their money to a scammer but in the end it's their decision. I think it's ridiculous that you wouldn't involve the authorities (whether it's the amusement park, store security, or the police) if you can. The difference is I don't think my opinion is a fact like you seem to do.

You keep repeating you would do squat as well. Not sure why it's different for you.

What if he's not in the bathroom? What if some pervert grabbed him by the hand and walked out of the park with him? Pretending you know the unknown is really very funny.

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What if he's not in the bathroom? What if some pervert grabbed him by the hand and walked out of the park with him? Pretending you know the unknown is really very funny.

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 You are pretending the same thing.  You are assuming all these worst case scenarios--all of which are THOUSANDS of times less likely than they just wandered off and you'll find them with a little effort.  

 

Heck, take the kid in question.  The authorities WERE called, and it didn't do any good, anyway.  Maybe they should have been called earlier, but what were they going to do other than look for the kid which was already being done.

 

stranger abduction is RARE.  not saying it never happens, but it is BY FAR one of the least likely scenarios.

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Still a possibility so I'll take all the help I can get and it doesn't make your OPINION a FACT.

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 Sure, I could call the cops every time I see someone walking down the street because they might be going to hold up a liquor store or steal a car--but chances are, that isn't the case, so that would be silly.  This is no different.  Sure, the worst case sceanario could always happen, but the FACT is that it is extremely unlikely.

Also, it's not my opinion that child abductions, especially stranger abductions, are rare--that is a FACT.

We weren't talking about stranger abductions not being facts. Nice try though...lol

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Sorry to hear you have paranoid delusions husker.

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 Im not the one who thinks the least likely scenario is going to occur.

No one was disputing stranger abduction facts so where the hell are you getting that. We were talking about a missing child not necessarily that they were abducted. There are many ways for a lost child to get hurt or killed. Go back and try reading what was written. The dispute was about whether to call the authorities right away if your child is missing. You don't think it should be done right away when many of us think you should. Throwing in this crap about stranger abductions makes me think it's you who's trying to change your mind. Every time you think you're losing an argument you try to change the argument to something else. I thought you were a better debater than that. If you have to keep telling people they're yammering when you have no better argument then just admit it...lol

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Friday 14th of August 2015 05:55:01 PM

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The child doesn't have to be abducted, missing is enough.

And husker - all I can say about your insensitivity is, I hope your granddaughter is never missing for an hour and you have to live through what I lived through. No matter what you say now, "much ado about nothing" is NOT how you feel. And it is NOT how the police felt about it. It doesn't take more than a tablespoon of water to drown.

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Enough for what?  The FACT is that the stat YOU quoted was for kids that were/are abducted--not just every kid who might wander off.  LOTS of kids wander off and VERY FEW are dead within an hour.  The fact that is was newsworthy in this case shows how RARE such a death is.

 

Also, WTF are you babbling about "insensitivity".  Just because I don't agree with you now I'm "insensitive".  What a load of bull and such arrogance you have.  

 

You act like you are the only one who ever had a child wander off.  I raised two boys, I've had to go looking for them before.   

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 I keep forgetting you know more than the professionals on any subject. My apologies. 

No, I am not the only one who has ever had a child missing. I may be the only one here who had an Amber Alert on their child. And the facts are we didn't KNOW if she was kidnapped or not. It was a busy area, the opportunity was there. So the statistics I quoted applied because we didn't know for a fact that they didnt. Rarely do people SEE a child being kidnapped - most missing kids are thought to have wandered off. Until it's proven otherwise. So I will error on the side of caution and find my child with any means neccedsary thank you. 

Your insensitivity is a product of your rural life style. You assume everyone lives in an Iowa utopia where no one is at harm and all kids are driving cars at age 4 because it's totally safe where YOU live. Somehow, after years on this board and the preceding one, you have not gotten the message that not all communities are like yours. What is safe where you live is downright dangerous where others live. Yet you continue to insist that your way is the only correct way. Even though you way would put people in serious harm where they live. If for one moment you could pepper your comments with the rememberance that not everyone lives in an Iowa cornfield, maybe people would take your posts more seriously.

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Missed this one.  First of all--I'm not from Iowa--so that is an ignorant statement. 

 

Second, no the statistics DO NOT apply because there was no kidnapping.  They ONLY apply if there is. 

 

Third, what "serious harm" are you yammering about?  The "serious harm" that came to the child in your example?  NONE.  

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The child doesn't have to be abducted, missing is enough.

And husker - all I can say about your insensitivity is, I hope your granddaughter is never missing for an hour and you have to live through what I lived through. No matter what you say now, "much ado about nothing" is NOT how you feel. And it is NOT how the police felt about it. It doesn't take more than a tablespoon of water to drown.

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Enough for what?  The FACT is that the stat YOU quoted was for kids that were/are abducted--not just every kid who might wander off.  LOTS of kids wander off and VERY FEW are dead within an hour.  The fact that is was newsworthy in this case shows how RARE such a death is.

 

Also, WTF are you babbling about "insensitivity".  Just because I don't agree with you now I'm "insensitive".  What a load of bull and such arrogance you have.  

 

You act like you are the only one who ever had a child wander off.  I raised two boys, I've had to go looking for them before.   

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 I keep forgetting you know more than the professionals on any subject. My apologies. 

No, I am not the only one who has ever had a child missing. I may be the only one here who had an Amber Alert on their child. And the facts are we didn't KNOW if she was kidnapped or not. It was a busy area, the opportunity was there. So the statistics I quoted applied because we didn't know for a fact that they didnt. Rarely do people SEE a child being kidnapped - most missing kids are thought to have wandered off. Until it's proven otherwise. So I will error on the side of caution and find my child with any means neccedsary thank you. 

Your insensitivity is a product of your rural life style. You assume everyone lives in an Iowa utopia where no one is at harm and all kids are driving cars at age 4 because it's totally safe where YOU live. Somehow, after years on this board and the preceding one, you have not gotten the message that not all communities are like yours. What is safe where you live is downright dangerous where others live. Yet you continue to insist that your way is the only correct way. Even though you way would put people in serious harm where they live. If for one moment you could pepper your comments with the rememberance that not everyone lives in an Iowa cornfield, maybe people would take your posts more seriously.

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Missed this one.  First of all--I'm not from Iowa--so that is an ignorant statement. 

 

Second, no the statistics DO NOT apply because there was no kidnapping.  They ONLY apply if there is. 

 

Third, what "serious harm" are you yammering about?  The "serious harm" that came to the child in your example?  NONE.  

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 Seriously? Even after I pointed out that you use yammering when you have nothing else...lol. Can you have a real debate or do you always give yourself away when you don't have answer?

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Friday 14th of August 2015 10:24:29 PM