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DENVER (BP) -- A committee of the Denver City Council has stalled what was expected to be routine approval of a Chick-fil-A restaurant at the Denver International Airport after at least four council members expressed disapproval of the company's alleged opposition to same-sex marriage.

During an Aug. 18 hearing, council member Robin Kniech said she was concerned about a local franchise generating "corporate profits used to fund and fuel discrimination," The Denver Post reported. Councilman Paul Lopez compared the pro-family stances of some Chick-fil-A leaders to presidential candidate Donald Trump's comments about immigration and other issues, calling opposition to the airport restaurant "really, truly a moral issue."

The council's Business Development Committee will take up the matter again at its Sept. 1 meeting. At issue is whether to approve a seven-year lease for a Chick-fil-A that would be operated by a 60-40 partnership involving Atlanta-based Concessions International and Denver's Delarosa Restaurant Concepts. Chick-fil-A would receive 7 percent of the restaurant's profits, according to The Post. If the committee rejects the lease, an individual member could still introduce the matter to the full council.

Delarosa President Mike De La Rosa told the committee all hiring would be conducted based on a nondiscrimination policy protecting individuals based on sexual orientation and gender identity, according to The Post.

None of the committee's 13 members, 10 of whom were present, defended Chick-fil-A, The Post reported.

Denver International Airport's senior vice president of concession Neil Maxfield said a 2013 survey of airport users identified Chick-fil-A as "the second-most sought-after quick service brand at the airport." DIA has estimated the restaurant would generate $4.1 million in sales its first year, with more than $600,000 paid to the airport in concession fees. Most other fast-food concessions would generate less in seven days than Chick-fil-A is expected to generate in six, according to The Post, a reference to the chain's policy of closing on Sundays.

Most council opposition focused on now-CEO Dan Cathy's 2012 support of traditional marriage, with some opposition also targeting "donations made by charitable arms to groups opposing LGBT causes," The Post reported.

Even the liberal website Mother Jones came to Chick-fil-A's defense.

"This stuff happened four years ago, and the company halted contributions to anti-gay groups a year later," Mother Jones' Kevin Drum wrote. "Cathy presumably still doesn't support gay marriage, but I really don't think that should be a precondition for winning a bid with a government agency.

"And when several council members go beyond that, raising questions about 'Chick-fil-A's religion-influenced operation,'" Drum continued, "all it does is confirm the worst hysteria from the right wing that merely being Christian is enough to arouse the hatred of the left. That's just wildly inappropriate."

Action Institute commentator Joe Carter wrote, "The behavior of the city council needs to be called out for what it is: anti-religious bigotry. This is unacceptable behavior, for the government officials are misusing their power to impose their views on citizens."



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That is the very definition of religious discrimination. I'm not sure there could be a more clear-cut case.

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Ugh! It is highly sought after & will generate $4.1 Mill in sales in the first year. That is all that matters. Bottom line.

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This will be interesting to watch.

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That is the very definition of religious discrimination. I'm not sure there could be a more clear-cut case.

The company itself has been sued for discrimination at least 12 times. 

Chick-fil-A, the corporate parent, has been sued at least 12 times since 1988 on charges of employment discrimination, according to records in U.S. District Courts. Aziz Latif, a former Chick-fil-A restaurant manager in Houston, sued the company in 2002 after Latif, a Muslim, says he was fired a day after he didn’t participate in a group prayer to Jesus Christ at a company training program in 2000. The suit was settled on undisclosed terms.

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0723/080.html



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Why in the world would some idiot even apply for a job at a Christian company if he didn't want to follow their rules. They've been SUED. ONE was settled out of court. Anyone can sue, doesn't mean they did anything wrong...

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McDonalds has been sued literally hundreds of times. I guess they shouldn't be allowed to be in business either according to you...

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Chick-fil-A sounds so good right now.

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McDonalds has been sued literally hundreds of times. I guess they shouldn't be allowed to be in business either according to you...

According to me?  I said they shouldn't be allowed to be in business? I didn't state an opinion either way. Just posted some facts. 



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Then why post it?

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Again, just posting the facts. Calm down.

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I could understand Chick-fil-A being blocked if there is a rule for stores in the concourse to be open 7 days a week, since Chick-fil-A closes on Sundays. But to halt over their support in opposition to gay marriage seems to me to be in violation of religious freedom. Others may feel differently than me though, and that's alright.

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I could understand Chick-fil-A being blocked if there is a rule for stores in the concourse to be open 7 days a week, since Chick-fil-A closes on Sundays. But to halt over their support in opposition to gay marriage seems to me to be in violation of religious freedom. Others may feel differently than me though, and that's alright.

Or, maybe they're afraid of protests in front of the restaurant, because they have a tendency to do that. They wouldn't want more crowds, travellers being slowed down and missing their flights.



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The opposition has NOTHING to do with whether or not the company has been accused of, sued for, or found guilty of past discrimination.

NOTHING in the article suggests that. It says ONLY that they are concerned about the purported views of the owners.

That is the very definition of religious discrimination.



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weltschmerz wrote:
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I could understand Chick-fil-A being blocked if there is a rule for stores in the concourse to be open 7 days a week, since Chick-fil-A closes on Sundays. But to halt over their support in opposition to gay marriage seems to me to be in violation of religious freedom. Others may feel differently than me though, and that's alright.

Or, maybe they're afraid of protests in front of the restaurant, because they have a tendency to do that. They wouldn't want more crowds, travellers being slowed down and missing their flights.

No.  Untrue.  It says NOTHING about that.  If they were concerned about that--then that would be the reason for the opposition.   Instead, the ONLY reason given for opposition is the purported views of the owners.   



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They even admit that the guy took bad his support of traditional marriage in 2012 and has now stopped funding any anti gay groups and HAS been donating to LGBT groups. But that's not good enough because at one point he made the statement he was in support of traditional marriage.

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Well, according to this, it's still about their anti-gay stance, even if it was in the past.

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/08/400406-denver-airport-halts-moment-chick-fil-opening-due-stance-gay-marriage/

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/eats/city-council-blocks-chik-fil-a-denver-airport-article-1.2335531

 The fast food chain's opposition to gay marriage is what gave the city council "pause."

"When Denver International Airport proposed a concession with a company that had a history of funding opposition to this recognition, it was important that we as a City Council take a pause to ensure that all the policies are in place with all of the entities involved to ensure there will be no discrimination, and that benefits will be provided equally to all employees and their spouses, regardless of their sexual orientation," said the City Council. http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/24/news/companies/chick-fil-a-denver/index.html?iid=hp-stack-dom

 



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Tuesday 25th of August 2015 05:09:49 AM



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Tuesday 25th of August 2015 05:16:28 AM

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weltschmerz wrote:

Well, according to this, it's still about their anti-gay stance, even if it was in the past.

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/08/400406-denver-airport-halts-moment-chick-fil-opening-due-stance-gay-marriage/

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/eats/city-council-blocks-chik-fil-a-denver-airport-article-1.2335531

 The fast food chain's opposition to gay marriage is what gave the city council "pause."

"When Denver International Airport proposed a concession with a company that had a history of funding opposition to this recognition, it was important that we as a City Council take a pause to ensure that all the policies are in place with all of the entities involved to ensure there will be no discrimination, and that benefits will be provided equally to all employees and their spouses, regardless of their sexual orientation," said the City Council. http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/24/news/companies/chick-fil-a-denver/index.html?iid=hp-stack-dom

 



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-- Edited by weltschmerz on Tuesday 25th of August 2015 05:16:28 AM

 The fact that you are defending this type of discrimination is the type of things that give liberals a bad name.  You are just saying it's ok to discriminate against people you don't agree with, which is the very definition of hypocrisy.



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Seriously? No, the city counsel is out of control.

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I had some great Chinese food at the Denver airport...

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weltschmerz wrote:
WYSIWYG wrote:

I could understand Chick-fil-A being blocked if there is a rule for stores in the concourse to be open 7 days a week, since Chick-fil-A closes on Sundays. But to halt over their support in opposition to gay marriage seems to me to be in violation of religious freedom. Others may feel differently than me though, and that's alright.

Or, maybe they're afraid of protests in front of the restaurant, because they have a tendency to do that. They wouldn't want more crowds, travellers being slowed down and missing their flights.

 In an airport?  Where you have to have a boarding pass to even get to most of the stuff?  Keep making excuses.



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Hypocrisy abounds. I wonder if people would support the banning of a gay owned restaurant? Because the city counsel doesn't like gays? I bet Weltz wouldn't be so supportive at that point...

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Yeah, so now you can be held liable for your "sins" that happened years and years ago. Oh how the LGBT community would have fun with that if the shoe were on the other foot. It's been three years since this guy took a stand for traditional marriage. He took it back and made sure he now contributes to LGBT groups. But that's not good enough! What is that called? A witch hunt? And most restaurants are inside the security now. It's a little hard for everyone in the protest group to buy a plane ticket so they can get through security just to protest.

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weltschmerz wrote:

Well, according to this, it's still about their anti-gay stance, even if it was in the past.

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/08/400406-denver-airport-halts-moment-chick-fil-opening-due-stance-gay-marriage/

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/eats/city-council-blocks-chik-fil-a-denver-airport-article-1.2335531

 The fast food chain's opposition to gay marriage is what gave the city council "pause."

"When Denver International Airport proposed a concession with a company that had a history of funding opposition to this recognition, it was important that we as a City Council take a pause to ensure that all the policies are in place with all of the entities involved to ensure there will be no discrimination, and that benefits will be provided equally to all employees and their spouses, regardless of their sexual orientation," said the City Council. http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/24/news/companies/chick-fil-a-denver/index.html?iid=hp-stack-dom

 



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Tuesday 25th of August 2015 05:09:49 AM



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Tuesday 25th of August 2015 05:16:28 AM

 It is--so all that you posted about them worrying about protests, etc... is pure nonsense.



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I have never eaten there, cause have never been anywhere with one, but have heard the food is good. SO I would eat there if the opportunity arose. the food taste, quality and service is what I use to judge where I will spend my money. Nothing else

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I don't eat chicken.

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huskerbb wrote:

I don't eat chicken.

 Or turkey...or seafood...

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I don't eat chicken.

 Or turkey...or seafood...

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?????  I eat seafood.  I make a great shrimp creole. I love seafood.   



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huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
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I don't eat chicken.

 Or turkey...or seafood...

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?????  I eat seafood.  I make a great shrimp creole. I love seafood.   

 Sorry, I couldn't remember.

And I make a great seafood pizza...just made one last night!

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flan327 wrote:
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huskerbb wrote:

I don't eat chicken.

 Or turkey...or seafood...

flan

?????  I eat seafood.  I make a great shrimp creole. I love seafood.   

 Sorry, I couldn't remember.

And I make a great seafood pizza...just made one last night!

flan

 That sounds wrong.



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Seafood pizza is delicious!!

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Don't knock it if you haven't tried it.

Frankly, I think BBQ chicken pizza is a travesty.

DH and I love a quirky little pizza join on the eastside. We both love their "Shipwreck Pizza," and I tried to replicate it.

Big mistake: DH likes it SO much that when I suggest going out, he says, "No, I like your pizza better."

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Don't knock it if you haven't tried it.

Frankly, I think BBQ chicken pizza is a travesty.

DH and I love a quirky little pizza join on the eastside. We both love their "Shipwreck Pizza," and I tried to replicate it.

Big mistake: DH likes it SO much that when I suggest going out, he says, "No, I like your pizza better."

flan

 Oh no! LOL. Don't try that again :)



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NAOW wrote:
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Don't knock it if you haven't tried it.

Frankly, I think BBQ chicken pizza is a travesty.

DH and I love a quirky little pizza join on the eastside. We both love their "Shipwreck Pizza," and I tried to replicate it.

Big mistake: DH likes it SO much that when I suggest going out, he says, "No, I like your pizza better."

flan

 Oh no! LOL. Don't try that again :)

Too late...

flan 



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my family loves shrimp tacos!

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Seafood does not belong on pizza or tacos in my world.

Husker needs to make us all his shrimp creole. Yum!

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Riding wrote:

my family loves shrimp tacos!

Because they are awesome!

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